Elected officials wade into controversial 'Dixie' debate

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  • Andrew J. Marksen Deseret, UT
    Jan. 5, 2013 1:05 p.m.

    I do believe that the "Red Storm" refers to St. Johns. Perhaps there is something more related to Utah that would be more appropriate for Dixie. There is nothing racist or offensive in the word Dixie. The alleged offense is a politically correct media created controversy designed to manipulate or dissuade anyone from doing something different than the intellectual majority deems appropriate. Utah did not participate in the Civil War. Utah was not even part of the recognized United States during the Civil War. Dixie is a historically used term to describe Southern Utah. I would submit that anyone finding racism or discrimination in the word Dixie has little grounding in Utah history, Southern Utah history, LDS Church history, or in the history of the Mountain West region in general. Spitting on our heritage for the sake of political correctness or some misguided notion of intellectual clarity dishonors everyone who gave their all to found the State of Utah.

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    Jan. 5, 2013 11:37 a.m.

    The absurd lengths we go to avoid offending any politically correct sensitivities confirms that we indeed "if you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything."

    So much for the much lauded "tolerance" and "diversity" and "search for truth" that academia cloaks itself with.

    In reality, academia and their cousins in the media cater to their own prejudices, project them upon everyone else, and then phrase their messages in simplistic terms suited for the "low information voters" and those who are educated and get their "news" from watching comedy shows on TV.

    However, it is fruitless to argue against them, as anyone trying to preserve "Dixie" in any form will be branded as evil, racist, uncaring, hateful, and ignorant of the "true meaning."

    So, let's see what team names might be acceptable. Maybe the "wimps" although that will surely offend someone. Animal names seem unobjectionable, but the big cat name is spoken for, maybe "kitties" or some variation might be okay. How about "weasels?"

    For the school itself- "Southern Utah College Known Earlier as Rebels?" That is long, so it could be abbreviated as SUCKER.

    If you want a real education, go to Hillsdale College!

  • teleste Austin, TX
    Jan. 5, 2013 11:28 a.m.

    @Happy Valley Heretic

    "Nonsense, a culture of racism and bigotry are not to be respected just because it's traditional."

    I guess none of the Founding Fathers deserve our respect. Right? After all, many of them were slave holders. What else should we do away with? The Stars and Stripes? (It was indeed the flag that flew over a nation where slavery was legal.) Should we change the name "United States of America"? (That is the name of a place where slavery was once legal.)

    Your argument was poorly constructed...and in the best case scenario your position is absurd.

  • Voice ofReason LAYTON, UT
    Jan. 5, 2013 11:14 a.m.

    Dixie is a PLACE, people. A place. I guess we'll have to cleanse our history of the words Georgia, Tennessee and South Carolina as well, in addition to "South", "Land of Cotton", etc. Oh, and no more Bavaria either, since that's where Hitler got his start. And don't even think of bringing up Berlin!

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 4, 2013 5:20 p.m.

    I guess since William Marsh Rice wanted the University named after him to educate only white males, anything associated with the name "Rice" must be racist and sexist. Since Rice University now accepts ALL academically qualified students, it needs to change its name to something with less of a racist history.

    is 49.2% or 43.7% yet a majority? I think you have created a credibility issue for yourself

  • Hemlock Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 4, 2013 5:09 p.m.

    For PC sake do you also want to do away with "Utes", formerly known as the Runnin' Redskins?

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Jan. 4, 2013 5:09 p.m.

    Rock Canyon University

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Jan. 4, 2013 4:53 p.m.

    ...and Hitlers mustach was originally a charlie chaplain, but go ahead a wear one, you can take it back for charlie.

    Nonsense, a culture of racism and bigotry are not to be respected just because it's traditional.

    It's better to learn from the mistakes of others not repeat them because ignorance ruled at one time.

    Jan. 4, 2013 4:22 p.m.

    It represents a culture and a history. It was never a name derived from slavery, until historians started selling us the connection.

    As far as the flag and statue, do we only honor our brothers who won? Diversity is a respect for all cultures, not just those victorious.

  • Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ
    Jan. 4, 2013 3:20 p.m.

    The name could have been innocuous had it not been for the confederate soldier statue, pretend slave auctions and confederate flags. Without all that nobody would have cared.

    Defenders of the name tend to be very dishonest in not mentioning all that.

    Now if I name my restaurant the "KKK" I might not have any problems as long as I don't have a confederate flag and mock slave auctions. Oh, KKK is just a name why won't you name the school that? Or "Gulag" or the "twin towers".

    Could it just be dishonesty arguing that you think there is nothing to a name? This is when you are supposed to be honest. Your Mum taught you that.

  • Gadfly Smyrna, TN
    Jan. 4, 2013 2:07 p.m.

    I object to the use of "Red Storm" to refer to the students in St. George. Sounds too communist to me. Ok, to be serious, we need to consider that "Dixie" has nothing to do with racism or slavery. It is a nickname for the South derived from the Mason-Dixon line which I hope is still taught in U.S. history classes. It is no worse than referring to the Mormon Inter-mountain community or like names that I Hear frequently to refer to sections of the Northwest.