Just a moment, here. Sunstone staffer says, "We found that people in our
Sunstone community ... were really hungry for a more in-depth examination of
Christ." So the profound outflow of stunning light and knowledge about
Christ that we receive from called and ordained Special Witnesses, modern
prophets, the Church, and the scriptures themselves are not in-depth examination
enough. We are left wanting, and we need the Mormon Liberal community to fill
the void. Oh brother. I am so shallow, so Pollyanna.
"....his teachings had some broad, popular appeal, even if they are
unworkable as an ethical or moral system...."______________________________Jesus didn’t need to be the
Messiah for a Jew to wonder if he might be. As some followers came to believe
God raised him from the dead, those two core beliefs formed the basis for what
evolved into Christianity.His teachings had populist appeal
precisely because they were an expression of Jewish moral and ethical beliefs.
Are they unworkable as a system? They certainly aren’t easy given the
egocentricity of base human nature. But the single most recurrent theme in his
teachings is that the kingdom of God is at hand. What he meant by “the
kingdom” is what we still debate today.John reports Jesus
telling Pilate his kingdom was not of this world. That doesn’t square with
the words of his famous prayer.“Thy kingdom come, thy will be
done on EARTH as it is in heaven.”Jesus’ kingdom was
very much of this world, not that it sought to displace Roman rule. It was a
kingdom in which the Roman Empire didn’t matter. That powerful idea made
Jesus more troublesome than an outright insurrectionist.
RE: A Scientist, I say he was not "The Anointed One", and I defy anyone
to prove otherwise.The early Church believed Christ was the Messiah:
Nomina sacra means "sacred names" in Latin, and can be used to refer to
traditions of abbreviated writing of several frequently occurring divine names
or titles in early Holy Scripture, used in Greek, Latin, and Coptic manuscripts.
Bruce Metzger's book Manuscripts of the Greek Bible lists 15
such expressions from Greek papyri: the Greek counterparts of God, Lord, Jesus,
Christ= MESSIAH, Son, Spirit, David, cross, Mother, Father, Israel, Savior, Man,
Jerusalem, and Heaven. Nomina Sacra have been found in Greek manuscripts from
the 1st - 3rd Centuries CE. Starting sometime in the 1st Century CE
the nomina sacra were sometimes shortened by contraction in Christian
inscriptions, resulting in sequences of Greek letters such as (chi-ro) and XPC
(chi-rho-sigma) for Christ (Greek=Christos).
They really need to change the name of this conference to the "Jesus
Conference". Many have come as "Christ", not just Jesus of Nazareth.
The conference should, first and foremost, focus on the question of whether or
not Jesus was really "The Anointed One" and what exactly that means.I say he was not "The Anointed One", and I defy anyone to prove
otherwise.But his teachings had some broad, popular appeal, even if
they are unworkable as an ethical or moral system.
Jesus came to proclaim the kingdom of God telling us that he that is greatest
among us shall be our servant. Sounds simple enough but service to our fellow
man is a programmatic approach to salvation that requires a lifetime of
commitment.That’s not what people wanted to hear, then or now.
They wanted a messiah to do all the heavy lifting. So when Jesus was crucified
and raised from the dead, they made his messianic mission into a message of
salvation. His altruistic message became corrupted into an egocentric message of
‘Jesus came to save me’ by dying on the cross. The idea that
salvation from sin might come through service to our fellow man could not be
what Jesus meant when he said “come, follow me.”That’s not the view of orthodox Christianity, be it Catholicism,
Protestantism, or Mormonism. But it’s my reading of the life and ministry
of Jesus and there’s nothing whiney or godless about it.