Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr. pitched as possible U.S. House speaker

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    Dec. 28, 2012 10:42 p.m.

    Fred44, the Republicans made two concessions.

    It's both their faults. As our leader, it's on Obama's shoulders, and I can see him let us go over, so he can claim the Republicans did it. He can't work with others, instead he gets frustrated and uses executive orders.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 28, 2012 7:01 p.m.


    Simple answer, right now today, the problem is not the democrats its the republicans. You wanted to rehash old history, so I told you what I believe, and I believe the democrats and the republicans both own this mess. As I mentioned in another post in a different article, if I had my way, every last one of the them would be gone and yes that includes the President.

    But lets live in the here and the now, in a couple of days over the cliff we go, and do the democrats deserve some blame for that, you bet they do. But the plain simple truth is the republicans unwillingness negotiate, to give a little on taxes is what is going to push us over the cliff.

    You can disagree, and I may be wrong. You can blame the President and the democrats and not King Grover and the republicans that is certainly your right. I am fairly confident that the majority of the American people outside of Utah will hold the republicans in the house responsible whether that is fair or not doesn't really matter, because it is reality.

  • Heidi71 Taylorsville, UT
    Dec. 28, 2012 1:48 p.m.

    That's ridiculous. I read that opinion column too. First of all, I think you need to get elected to the House of Representatives, and need to have some senority before being considered for Speaker.

    Second of all, Huntsman, Jr., is too intellectual for most people to understand what he's saying. I wasn't smart enough to understand most of what he said during debates. His best line was, "I thought 9-9-9 was the price of a pizza." Other than that, he lost me.

  • Canyontreker TAYLORSVILLE, UT
    Dec. 28, 2012 11:59 a.m.

    sanpaco "This is dumb, why are we even talking about this? He's not a member of the House of Representatives."

    I agree. Congress can't get anything done by agreement now. How will they ever agree on an outsider to be Speaker, even if it is possible legally?

  • sanpaco Sandy, UT
    Dec. 28, 2012 11:03 a.m.

    This is dumb, why are we even talking about this? He's not a member of the House of Representatives. We might as well be speculating about what it would be like to have Superman as Secretary of State.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Dec. 28, 2012 9:57 a.m.

    My, J Jr will be a busy man.
    So far he's been tapped by the local press to become:
    Secretary of State
    Speaker of the House
    President of the 2026 Olympics
    Replacement for Batman

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 28, 2012 9:41 a.m.


    I agree that the Senate should have given the House budget an up or down vote. Don't misunderstand, I do not hold democrats blameless. I would hope that you would also criticize Mr. Boehner for not allowing his plan B to come up for an up or down vote. Both parties are playing politics and are willing to further damage an already weak economy to make their respective political points.

    Mr. Boehner and the President were very close to an agreement. Why not continue to negotiate, bring something back that each side likes a little and dislikes a little and put it to a vote?

    By Mr. Boehner stopping negotiations because he couldn't get all the republican votes in the house to pass the legislation he allowed the vocal minority to bring the process to halt. You say that the republicans in the house shouldn't be the Presidents lapdog, again I agree with you. But I would also say that they shouldn't be Grover Norquist's lapdog either and by signing his pledge that is what they have become.

  • L Central, Utah
    Dec. 27, 2012 11:52 p.m.

    I would support Jon Huntsman Jr. if I had a vote to cast on it

  • Canyontreker TAYLORSVILLE, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 9:57 p.m.

    Although I have mixed feelings about Governor Huntsman, he would be an awesome Secretary of State with either party.

  • Newspaper Reader Highland, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 9:54 p.m.

    VST - 7:45 p.m.

    Thanks for saying exactly what needed to be said. Some people will never understand how things are supposed to actually work in government.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 9:40 p.m.

    I thought Huntsman to be a good governor. I would rate him behind Scott Matheson and Calvin Rampton.

  • John C. C. Payson, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 9:06 p.m.

    I'm afraid the only good solution will take a little while longer. People now see how divisive and dysfunctional it is to let the extremes of each party set the agenda. It's time for the majority of us voters to regain control of our parties and bring them closer to the center. Opinion polls have already shown that neither party's current platforms are popular with the majority. Yet we continue to delay expressing our opinions until the party caucuses are over, and by then it's too late.

    We have two choices--more and earlier participation or further decline.

    P.S. Notice how few moderate opinions there are among these responses? Where are all my good neighbors?

  • Gr8Dane Tremonton, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 7:18 p.m.

    This is a ridiculous story. Norm Ornstein is a well-known liberal Democrat activist who has taken up residence in a left-leaning "think tank." He views it as his job to stir the pot and criticize Republicans and jab them at every chance. Huntsman would be a disaster as Speaker. The majority in the House should be able to vote for and select their own leaders from within. Not some outside groups foisting the flavor "du jour" onto them.

    Huntsman was a divisive governor. He seems to revel in it for his own publicity (dare I say, Narcissist?).

    This is a non-story and has a zero percent chance of happening. THe majority can select their own speaker, and Huntsman is definitely not it.

  • Kelliebelle66 West Jordan, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 6:42 p.m.

    I voted for and helped campaign for Jon Huntsman Jr for governor. I was disappointed when he left office to become ambassador to China, but I felt that it was an great opportunity for him and I understood why he chose that path. Then after a short time as ambassador he decides to resign to pursue other opportunities such as running for President of the United States of America. I couldn't understand why a man who spent little time as a governor and resigned and spent little time as an ambassador and resigned felt he was qualified to be President of the United States. He has the mentality of someone who is used to getting what he wants or doing what he wants to do when he wants to do it. That's not how the rest of us operate. We work our way up to things through years of planning and slogging. I guess if you have money life is different. You decide you want a car, you go buy it. You decide to go to a prestigious school, you go. Be president, no problemo. Until he decides otherwise.

  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 6:29 p.m.

    Ideology presents a huge danger to this country. Both sides push a "my way or the highway" agenda and philosophy. What we really need in leadership is competence - someone that get the job done. The system of checks and balances will make sure no one political philosophy destroys our country unless everybody, executive, legislative and judicial, along with the electorate, gives its approval. Huntsman has shown he can get things done. Boehner and Obama have not shown that. Let's get something in place that works!

    Meanwhile, a viewing of the film, "Lincoln," reminds us of how dirty politics can be. Toward the end, Thaddeus Stevens (a conservative Republican, by the way) states: "The greatest measure of the 19th century was passed by corruption, aided and abetted by the purest man in America." I really hope that nobody on either side of the present issue would want to repeal the 13th Amendment.

    All this hand-wringing about the demise of the American nation is ideological nonsense. America is culturally and economically what the rest of the world wants to be. China, for all their problems, at least recognizes that without the United States, they become a backwater, 3rd-world country.

  • CA. reader Rocklin, CA
    Dec. 27, 2012 5:46 p.m.

    Ladies and gentlemen, take it from someone who was forced to live through it: J. Jr. is a Schwaganeggaer (?) Republican. I think he would roll over for whatever the Dems are pushing, which, in my humble opinion is to let the country go over the imaginary fiscal cliff just to see if they can finish off the Republicans.

    I think the only people in Washington who are willing to stick to their principles are the Tea Party folks. They are toeing the line their constituents have drawn in the sand with no intention of crossing it at all. Good for them.

  • Star Bright Salt Lake City, Ut
    Dec. 27, 2012 4:26 p.m.

    Huntsman has traded on his father's good name long enough, and he can only do that in Utah. Sorry libs, it won't work in the rest of the country, even though the msm loved him.

    The only Supreme Court Justice from Utah, Justice Sutherland, said " ... the saddest epitaph which can be carved in memory of a vanished liberty is that it was lost because its possessors failed to stretch forth a saving hand while yet there was time."
    Is it too late?

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 4:11 p.m.

    No thanks. Furthermore, Boehner is not the problem in Washington. How is it that he is blamed for not compromising or able to work with the democrats? Any reasonable human can see that Obama and his lap dog from Nevada never compromise. Watch and learn, people!

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 27, 2012 3:55 p.m.


    Understand it hasn't happened and probably never will. The point was it could.

    As to the chuckleheads I don't care if there is 50 or 5 they have taken control of the House. As to checking the President, the House controls the purse strings how about doing your job and getting a budget passed that has a chance of passing the Senate and not being vetoed?

    Republicans can't seem to understand they lost the Presidency and seats in the house and the senate. Blaming the democrats isn't working for them. When Americans realize that we are going over the cliff then fixing it the first of the year for Grover's pledge they are going be even less happy with the republicans in the house

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 3:12 p.m.

    Jon Huntsman or Nancy Pelosi - what's the difference? Both super liberal and both hate conservatism. I have never understood why Huntsman pretends to be a Republican in the first place. Huntsman is a liberal and is all too eager to sign with Obama on anything and everything. Jason Chavetz would tell Huntsman to buzz off as would Michelle Bachman. All the sudden the GOP establishment want to become Democrat's. I say let them go and let the 90% of the GOP defect to the Libertarian party or Independence. We could care less what liberals think or purple Republicans for that matter. I would rather watch America go down in flames - as it is currently headed like a train wreck in slow motion - and at least stand with the US constitution on principle. One day in the not too distant future when unemployment is 30% and China owns most of what is left in this country including our past freedoms I suspect some historian is going to write some "what went wrong with America" book and of course at that point it will be too little too late. All former great civilizations cave from within.

  • Florwood American Fork, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 3:10 p.m.

    The backup QB is always the fan's choice...

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 2:48 p.m.

    Red, once upon a long time ago, I voted for a lot of Republicans. In fact, this election is the first time I ever voted a straight ticket.


    Republicans are no longer sane and I really prefer at least a little sanity in my government.

  • red state pride Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 2:36 p.m.

    I'm beginning to get really tired of all the "helpful" suggestions for the Republican party going forward by people who aren't ever going to vote for a Republican anyway. Why don't we let Republicans pick someone to replace Harry Reid? He hasn't even been able to pass a budget in the Senate which is a basic obligation of the Senate. Why can't he be a little more "moderate".
    How about the President? In his first campaign for the Presidency he committed to cut the deficit in half in his first term. That didn't come close to happening so why wasn't he replaced?
    If Democrats are so in love with Huntsman then why didn't they nominate him as the Democrat presidential candidate?

  • Steve C. Warren WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 1:54 p.m.

    As an Obama supporter, Huntsman was the only person in the GOP field who I thought had a chance of beating the president. Thankfully, the right-wingers eliminated him early, paving the way for one of the many bad Republican candidates to run against Obama.

    By the way, I think Huntsman, like Nancy Pelosi, would make a fine speaker.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 1:34 p.m.

    I'm thinking that the problem with the House is that Boehner caved in to Obama and agreed to raise taxes. That's why conservatives don't like him.
    So, to suggest that Hunstman is better-liked by conservatives is absurd. He was the most liberal of the GOP primary candidates.
    Why would he appeal to people who think Boehner is not far enough to the right?

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 27, 2012 1:15 p.m.

    Most of you seem to miss the point of the article. The constitution does allow for the Speaker to be a non elected representative. The article is based on the idea that maybe a true moderate republican outside of the House could broker a deal.

    Of course the idea is pie in the sky because the House republicans are controlled by chuckleheads as republican Steven LaTourette from Ohio referred to the 40-50 tea party members who control what bills come up for a vote in the House.

    These chuckleheads have been given control and appear to be committed to driving us over the cliff. Why would they do that, to keep their pledge to Grover. They plan to allow the Bush tax cuts to expire on Dec. 31st, then come in on the 3rd of January an vote for a tax cut, thus keeping their pledge to Grover.

    Really folks these are the people we want running our country? People who put a pledge to an individual ahead of what is best for the American people. Thank you tea party and Grover Norquist. Maybe we could just vote in Grover as King since he is controlling the government.

  • dumprake Washington, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 12:20 p.m.

    Bad idea, real bad idea. And, Obama does not bargain, he does not negotiate, he does not compromise. Obama is the little dictator who could, and he does whatever he wants, whether it's constitutional, legal, or honest, he does whatever he wants to do. And one thing he does not do is negotiate with Republicans, heck, he doesn't even talk to them. He was in office two full years before he even acknowledged that Republicans existed--and he never talked to the House and Senate GOP leaders. How's that for a president who campaigned to bring people together. The only people he brings together are his radical, Marxist, and born again socialists friends who bow to him.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 11:56 a.m.


    Huntsman had a high approval rating because the legislature largely kept him tempered.

    Huntsman does not now enjoy that same high rating, because many people think he "went off the crazy cliff the past few years..".

    He got goofy after he quit governor and quit ambassador (which we should have seem coming based upon a life pattern of quitting once he gets bored)

    I voted for him before, but would NOT vote for him again (unless the only alternative was Rocky Anderson)

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 11:03 a.m.

    @DN Subscriber 2
    "Huntsman was a failed liberal governor,"

    Who had an approval rating over 75% when re-elected. Not his fault republicans went off the crazy cliff the past few years...

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 11:03 a.m.

    @DN Subscriber 2
    "Huntsman was a failed liberal governor,"

    Who had an approval rating over 75% when re-elected. Not his fault republicans went off the crazy cliff the past few years...

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 11:02 a.m.

    Um... okay, I'm a huge fan of Jon Huntsman Jr. That secretary of state article, that one was at least reasonable speculation. This idea though... is just stupid. He's not even in the House.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 10:48 a.m.

    Why? So he can quit another job?

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 10:46 a.m.

    A person doesn't have to be a lawyer to be on the Supreme Court either; let's think outside the box (who put the box there anyway?); enjoyed article today in Wall Street Journal editorial on how online learning will stop the corruption that is our current higher education system; let's make tax code simpler, etc. Change is coming.

  • Nanny Los Angeles, CA
    Dec. 27, 2012 10:34 a.m.

    I'm shocked that this made front page print news. It might have read "Donald Duck for President." Why would a newspaper front page a story like this when there is ZERO chance. Huntsman is not even a member of Congress. It's worse than a pipe dream, it's a fantasy or a joke. This is non-news, back page material. My granny used to call her paper the Deserted News, and I have to agree. Is there nothing in the world going on to take up a front page?

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 9:34 a.m.

    ...and I might win the lottery, but you don't write headlines about that.

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 9:07 a.m.

    What is this, some sort of "Fantasy Congress League" where we pick real or imaginary players?

    Huntsman was a failed liberal governor, a decent Ambassador, a failed Presidential candidate, and perpetually more interested in stroking hie ego than in advancing anything remotely resembling conservatism, despite his wanting that label when deemed helpful and evading it when it might not be.

    Jon Huntsman senior is a great man who has done much good for many people. Jon, Junior, needs to find a real job and stick to it, not keep chasing after power based on name recognition earned by his admirable father.

  • Richard Votaw Sandy, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 8:02 a.m.

    But the Republicans own the House, Huntsman is a Democrat

  • dogchow1 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 7:50 a.m.

    Interesting that by law the Speaker of the House does not have to be an elected Representative.
    But Huntsman? This really isn't serious, right? If Boehner can't lead as a moderate, Huntsman's
    cred's would be even worse for the conservatives.

  • JDL Magna, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 7:15 a.m.

    It's a sad day when we allow labels to be placed upon us and then accept them without even a thought. Extremists, right wing, wackos, left wing, conservative, liberal...

    Mr. Ornstein and his book partner Mann have used labels to divide and foment contention. They have not shown any evidence of trying to find consensuses or common ground and they never intended to.

    They toss around the Constitution as if it's a play thing and they are the sole source of interpretation and anyone who dares to hold fast to it's genius and timeless principals is an extremist and a threat to the new government that has manipulated, changed and usurped the old.

    The fight is really not about Republican or Democrat or the fiscal cliff but about preserving or dismantling the greatest nation and form of government the world has ever known and labels are a strategic weapon of the dismantlers.

  • TopCat772 Patchogue, NY
    Dec. 26, 2012 9:14 p.m.

    Huntsman as President would have brought both sides of the aisle together and unified our country. As Speaker, his success as a fiscal conservative while Governor would give him a more credible background than Boehner's. He could have articulated a compelling pitch to the American people and gotten consensus behind the GOP position without the polarization.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Dec. 26, 2012 8:19 p.m.

    One small problem. Huntsman is not a member of the House of Representatives.

    But he would have made a much better representative of the people of Utah than any of those who are supposedly representing us now.