BYU men's basketball: Baylor uses big run to come away with a 79-64 victory over the Cougars

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  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Dec. 26, 2012 1:34 p.m.


    "BYU looks like they are just reloading this year and should be a lot better next year with their amazing class coming in."

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news (ok maybe not) but byU will be worse next year with Davies gone. That "amazing" recruiting class that everyone keeps talking about (Mika, Emery and Haws), won't be playing until at least 2015-16 season and Haws not until 2016-2017 season. Emery just got his mission call to Germany and will leave in May. Good for him.

  • William Wallace OGDEN, UT
    Dec. 23, 2012 10:42 p.m.

    Here we go again Cougar fans. You have all the answers. You're going to hammer on Coach Rose, and even go as far as tell him drills to run, Cal Cougar? Really? You should be coaching somewhere, instead of coaching after the game is over. It's easy to coach after. I can't believe the comments on here. Stuff like BYU could be playing for the National Championship in football had James Lark started. Well, you all got your wish, and Lark was pretty dang average. Let the coaches coach, and just cheer for your team. They're still pretty good, so just support and do something atypical of so many Cougar fans.

  • cal cougar camarillo, CA
    Dec. 23, 2012 2:39 p.m.


    Develop your teams personal offensive skills.

    Have all bigs do 3 on 2 games where they have to catch and shoot from 10 to 15 foot range. Austin is your next Hartsock. Needs to practice this and then shoot more.

    Guards need midrange game like Haws does. They can play 21 with three or four players. They only shoot 10 to 15 foot pull up jumpers. NO LAYUPS.

    Then have them do 3 on 2 drills. They can only take 20 foot or 3 pointer catch and shoots. No 3 pointers until they have hit a 20 footer. Then they have green light for a 3 pointer. If they miss, they have to hit another midrange jumper before they take another 3 pointer. Never a 20 footer or longer off the dribble. Then replicate this in games.

    Carlino could be awesome. He can't take 3 pointers off the dribble like first shot against Baylor. Develop his midrange game. A shot off the dribble for a guard is 15 to 10 feet. Same is true for all guards on team.

    Develop the midrange talents. We need more Tyler Haws and Hartsock types on the court in addition to Davies.

  • Jazzsmack Holladay, UT
    Dec. 22, 2012 8:37 p.m.

    There is enough games now to draw some conclusions.

    BYU is not ncaa tournament bound,

    they just do not have the horses to compete against decent teams.

    BYU will probably go to the NIT this year and maybe play a couple of games but because they will have play on the road will not last long.

    BYU must have real flaw is it's system in that the front-line is often caught guarding out at the 3-point line, resulting in foolish and unnecessary fouls to their big men.

    BYU seriously need to recruit better and bigger interior players who can defensively control the paint. BYU used always have several decent if not good 6-9 and taller players. The system seems to be driving them away. harstock was only 6-8.

    BYU hasn't developed a good big man in years, no ones potential is being developed.

    Even the good ones like plaistead played small or never developed like dawes.

    BYU plays too much man on man against decent teams, which wears on BYU allowing the other team to go on runs during the later part of the first half.

    BYU is not good enough to catch up.

  • cal cougar camarillo, CA
    Dec. 22, 2012 6:34 p.m.

    Until this team develops their starting five into scorers, this is going to be a long season. Especially, Carlino and Zylstra.
    They have loads of talent, but don't understand mixing it up on offense.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Dec. 22, 2012 8:33 a.m.

    Once again showing it takes more than two players to win. Baylors starting five all score in double digits. BYU's starting five - only Davies and Haws score in double digits.

    It's time to shake up the starting rotation again. Let's try Amrosino at the 4, Calvert at the 2 and Delgado at the PG. Although I have to admit, Austin played decent on defense and the boards. At least try something different at the 1 and 2 spots. Our guard play is worse than last year, and last year wasn't very good.

  • OCoug Ogden, UT
    Dec. 22, 2012 7:14 a.m.

    Tough loss. Just not sure if this years team is an at large tournament team. They've had double digit losses against Notre Dame, Iowa State, Florida State and Baylor.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Dec. 22, 2012 6:59 a.m.

    It was another Cougar "Jekell and Hyde" performance! For the first part of the 1st half, they were "Dr. Jekell", wonderful and fun to watch. Then Cusick got an intentional call and it went south from then on. It's the kind of game that feeds into the painful perception that we only win against lesser opponents but almost always chokes against better competition.

    All in all, it was another bittersweet experience. When they were good, I was giddy. When they started turning into "Mr. Hyde" and made lots of stupid turnovers and missed easy shots and layups, it became painful to watch. Besides, when you have to depend on Davies and Haws night in and night out without much help from the others, then it's easy to see the kind of results like they had last night. It's the thrill of victory and agony of defeat. Thrilled with the football team's awesome bowl performance and the agony of the bb team's loss to Baylor last night.

    Better luck next time Cougs, again!

  • ParkerCoug12 Parker, CO
    Dec. 22, 2012 6:46 a.m.

    Time to give Winder a chance to play. Cusick played very poorly. He made several bad passes, missed his shots and showed no athleticism. Not sure why the coach likes him so much. His shooting percentage was very bad something like 0%. This team needs more athletes.

  • FaifeauSam Lehi, UT
    Dec. 22, 2012 6:37 a.m.

    Thank goodness we've got Northern Arizona to help us lick our wounds. Gonzaga will be a similar story. I think Rose got outcoached with the physical play that Baylor used. Can BYU boys really play with the big boys from the Hood and from other tougher conferences? If I were an opposing coach against BYU for the rest of the year, I'd tell my players to be as physical as they can and don't worry about the consequences of fouling out of games because a lot of those fouls don't get called since the officials don't like to take the game away from the players. Would Jabari (Parker) or Jimmer (Ferdette) have made any difference? I'm afraid it's going to be a long season in Provo!

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    Dec. 22, 2012 6:23 a.m.

    The Lakers have found their next bad actor in the guy who flopped big time when he wasn't even hit in the face. He fell down 1/2 second after being "hit" in the face, and the refs fell for it, even after video evidence. That was the turning point in the game.

    BYU is just not an NCAA tourney team this year. They get beat by about 15 points against any decent team, and they just don't know how to play against teams like that, especially on the road. Baylor was very beatable, but they got throttled. BYU looks like they are just reloading this year and should be a lot better next year with their amazing class coming in.

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Dec. 22, 2012 3:04 a.m.

    Baylor seemed much more physical and the latter part of game, Cougars looked defeated, no one helping Davies much, perhaps no confidence among the guards. Suddenly this team seems very weak, lacking muscle and motivation.

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 22, 2012 1:12 a.m.

    This has to be one of the most disappointing teams in Coach Rose's career at BYU.

  • AZJazzFan Gold Canyon, az
    Dec. 22, 2012 12:54 a.m.

    This BYU squad has two good players in Hawes and Davies, and the others are mediocre. I hope this changes as the season progresses. Go cougs!

  • Jake2010 bountiful, ut
    Dec. 21, 2012 11:29 p.m.

    Isn't this the same as what happened last time these two met on the hardwood? Had a lead and then squandered it away??? One of these days... Baylor you WILL go down to the Cougars!