@ParkCityAggieAren't religious people part of the
"WE"?The first amendment says what congress can not do, it
does not what WE can do.It is not violation in any way or form.It is unfortunate that the easily offended LEFT want to control everyone
and their lifes, and want to follow a modern twisted and wrong interpretation.
I view these memorials as just that - a memorial. Every time I see one, I think
about the sacrifice of the Trooper who died in the service of his community. I
drive a little safer.I don't understand the offense. I
don't see these are religious symbols. There are many theories about where
the cross symbol came from that we use on these memorials. I see them as simply
a traditional symbol to remember the deceased. I would support the use of other
symbols if the family of the fallen trooper made such a request, just as we see
in the National Cemetaries for our fallen soldiers and Sailors.They
have been moved off of public property. I appreciate the private parties who
donated the space to make this possible.As for the question about
the UHP emblem being used, the answer is "No." It is the emblem of the
UHP Association, which is a private organization and not the official state law
enforcement agency. There may be similarities in the design, but it is not the
Amen, Kalindra. Excellent description of the California Nativity fiasco.I'm perfectly happy to see crosses or any other religious symbols
honoring fallen troopers--provided that they are on private property, not public
property. These crosses, by the way, are paid for with private funds, not public
Wait just a minute.Isn't that the official State of Utah Highway
Patrol symbol on those crosses?You folks are still trying to push a
lawsuit, aren't you? That's what this is all about.It's
not about fallen troopers.It's about an organized campaign to
force Utah taxpayers to spend more money to defend this unconstitutional
"institution of religion".
Mike Richards, yes. Let's honor the fallen WITHOUT religious bigotry ....
and take the crosses down.The traffic passing by, will have no idea
what they are about, and their impact will be no more than any piece of
advertising along the highway.
Did CONGRESS pass a law regarding those memorials?Those who mock the
Constitution change the words of that document. They claim that there is
"separation". Read the 1st Amendment. No such words exist. Let us honor the fallen without religious bigiotry.
It's too bad that a photograph (though it would have dangerous and unwise)
couldn't have been taken from the perspective of the hundreds of thousands
of vehicles on I-15 that would pass the crosses every day. It's hard to
visualize the impact of the crosses from the primary viewers standpoint.
What was wrong with the memorial on the Utah State Capitol grounds?These crosses were initially purposely placed on public lands, to force a
court case (which was lost). Are you all sure that the fallen
troopers were Christian, since you want these to be religious displays?
Park City Aggie asked: Do you really want our highways littered with crosses,
Jewish star's of David, the Crescent Moon and Star, Pagan Symbols, Flying
Spaghetti Monster symbols? ABSOLUTELY. I would absolutely LOVE this.
I would love the opportunity to discuss with my kids all the different religious
symbols as we drove along the freeway. It beats the billboards for
breast augmentation surgery, the ones suggesting your hips are too wide and you
would be a better person if you only had liposuction, or the one billboards
advertising adult sex toys and lingerie... This is not only not
offensive, it's absolutely crucial in creating and fostering a country and
community that respects all religions and values them. God bless all our brave
HW patrol troupers, may they be safe and sound, and to those families who have
lost their loved ones in the line of duty my deepest appreciation.
In California, nativity scenes were placed on public property. Atheists and
non-Christian groups decided that, instead of suing to have the Christian
symbols removed, they would simply join in the celebration by displaying signs
and such that reflected their viewpoints. In response to this, the
non-Christian items were vandalized. Once the Christian groups were not the only
ones participating, there were more participants than spaces and a lottery was
held to determine who got to use the spaces. The Christian groups were unhappy
with the division of spaces and sued the city to give them preferential
treatment. The city decided to get out if the situation and not allow any
overnight displays on city property. Why is it that so many are so
willing to not be offended by crosses or other Christian symbols but so willing
to be offended by non-Christian symbols? And why are so many whose
religious beliefs recognize the Cross as a sacred symbol so willing to follow
the example of Judas and deny sacredness and divinity by degrading the Cross and
stripping it of all meaning?
@Tekakaromatagi - it doesn't matter that you are offended or not, the issue
is should ANY religious organization representing ANY religious creed be allowed
to place religious symbols on PUBLIC land that WE own? Do you really want our
highways littered with crosses, Jewish star's of David, the Crescent Moon
and Star, Pagan Symbols, Flying Spaghetti Monster symbols? Because if you allow
one religious origination to put up a cross on public land, you open the door
for everyone else otherwise it is verifiable discrimination and a BIG TIME
violation of the 1st Amendment. If religious groups want to put crosses on
private property next to the freeway with the owners permission, but all means,
go wild. But on OUR land? Really? Think about it...
May God bless the fallen troopers, and those currently and serving, and also the
fine people who donated the land and the new crosses, and the loved one of all
of the above.He may overlook those who are offended by religion and
I am not of a religious tradition that views a cross as a religious symbol. But
I am not offended by a cross.I think that diversity enriches a
community. It is unfortunate that some twist the constitution to block
diversity from the rest of us.