BYU football: Herriman running back Francis Bernard commits to the Cougars (+video)

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  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Dec. 13, 2012 12:53 p.m.


    "Number of outright WAC championships during 1962-1999 (when BYU and UofU were in conference)
    BYU: 12...Utah: 0"

    Number of WAC membership requests during 2010 while Utah was negotiating with the Pac-12:

    BYU: 1
    Utah: 0

    Edge: Utah.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Dec. 13, 2012 12:48 p.m.


    "have sources for those 'other newspapers'?"

    He was talking about Jay Drew's article 2 days ago where he said, "Bernard said his only other offer came from Utah State. He drew some interest from the school that has been his favorite growing up, Utah, but no offer...'I've never really been a big BYU fan...This is just how it worked out and where I felt I needed to go.'"

  • JmThms Henderson, NV
    Dec. 13, 2012 11:01 a.m.

    Chris B:

    "I wonder how many players always wanted to play for BYU, but "settled" on Utah after a BYU offer never came.

    Shows that these two programs are on vastly different levels in terms of talent."

    Yes indeed. Lots of them as a matter of fact. This question goes hand in hand on how many BYU rejects are there among the student body and U alumni at U of U, compared to U of U rejects at BYU. The answer is obvious. And it is all telling. Chris B, again: Hows that inferiority complex workin for ya?

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 9:04 a.m.

    @Jealous of the U...."It's what Whit does; rely on other coaches, like Bronco, to correctly assess talent, and then try to piggybank off of their work, just like he relied on Urban Meyer and Gary Anderson to build the program Kyle took credit for."

    Bronco really assesses talent well he has put so many of his recruits into the NFL...Oh wait he has put 0 in the NFL? If Bronco assesses talent so well then why in 8 years has he not put a single one of those talented kids into the NFL? Is he really that bad of a coach?

    By the way the other 3 coaches you refrence have countless recruits in the NFL. Since you say Kyle don't assess talent well he must be one of the best coaches in the NCAA. To take that many kids with no talent and develop them into NFL players.

  • footballisgood Holladay, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 8:38 p.m.

    Francis actually was being recruited by other schools - Oregon State and Boise St were very interested. During the past summer, he decided that he wanted to stay in Utah and let all the out of state schools know that and declined their invitations to participate in their elite summer camps. Utah was an option as well with a conditional offer - he would have to go on a mission first so that they could count him in their numbers in 2015. In the end, he chose BYU as they did the best job of recruiting him and everything about their program felt right for him. By the way, I am a Utah fan but I am a fan of all student athletes, regardless of who they play for. Too many people on here like to say things and have no idea about the facts or circumstances or turn a celebration of a great young man into their own agenda.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Dec. 12, 2012 5:32 p.m.

    Let me tell you why Bernard got "Pac 12" attention, but didn't get any "Pac 12 offers."

    He's going on a mission straight out of High School.

    I'm guessing we'll see more and more LDS athletes NOT get offers to other programs when they tell the coaches about their mission plans. Some coaches are supportive of an athlete leaving as long as they get to have them around for a year or two to find out if they are really worth bringing back after a 2 year absence. Some believe that if they get them in the fold they can discourage them from leaving at all. But how many are going to save a scholarship for a guy they won't see for two years?

    Bronco and Whit have dealt with missionaries a lot. They'll continue to offer them, even if they are going to serve a mission right away. Anderson will probably do the same. But how many other programs will?

  • killarney Lincoln Park, IL
    Dec. 12, 2012 3:34 p.m.


    5 out of 20 posts about a "leftover" BYU recruit by one disgruntled, increasingly desperate fan from the hill.

    I was curious about all of the fuss, so I did a little google search on Utah and USC recruiting, here's what I found on one recruiting site.

    Recruiting Class Ranking

    #2 USC - 16 recruits, ALL FOUR- and FIVE-star recruits

    UCLA, Washington, Oregon, Arizona, and California were also ranked in the Top 40

    unranked Utah - only ONE four-star recruit (same as BYU), every other recruit 3 or fewer stars

    I wonder how many players always wanted to play for USC, but "settled" for another PAC 12 school not named Utah, after a USC offer never came.

    Care to comment on Utah's true place in the recruiting food chain, Chris B?

    Didn't think so.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 2:24 p.m.


    I'm still waiting...

  • Sounds right.. Cedar City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 2:15 p.m.

    I wonder if Chris B is even a ute fan. He seems to pay a lot more attention to BYU sports than Utah. Being in the pac12 is nice and all but if you can not make it to a bowl and in football and your others programs are complete garbage.(look at the overall MWC conf championships in all sports) then I guess you find a team ton dislike rather than cheer for a team.

  • Pingdew Herriman, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 11:15 a.m.

    Congrats Francis! I think it's great when an athlete of Francis is able to commit to a school of BYU's caliber. He had a great high school career and was able to parlay that into a great opportunity. I hear he's a starter on the basketball team as well and a freak athlete. Congrats and Herriman is very proud of you!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Dec. 12, 2012 10:54 a.m.

    @ Winglish,

    The coach makes all the difference in the world, especially in High School. It sounds like Herriman has a good one (Coach Wilson). It's still hard for me to grasp how much Herriman has grown. When I was in High School, one bus brought the Herriman kids to South Jordan. Thanks for the feed back. Bingham HS, class of '82

    I also wish Bernard good luck, except against Utah 8-)

  • Winglish Lehi, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 10:25 a.m.

    @ Spokane Ute

    There is a reason that Herriman football is doing such a great job: Coach Larry Wilson. He is an awesome coach who has been extremely successful in the high school ranks. Larry is a former University of Utah assistant coach (under Jim Fassel). He really understands the game and is a good man to boot. Herriman is lucky to have Coach Wilson.

    Good luck to Francis Bernard! I hope your experience at BYU is exactly what you are looking for, except for that USU game...

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 10:14 a.m.


    I tried to provide the name of the other paper, but the Des News screeners blocked it for some reason. Use some simple logic and you should be able to figure out what the "other" Utah paper I'm referring to is.

    Go look it up and let me know.

    I'll be waiting...

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Dec. 12, 2012 9:53 a.m.

    IRS Agent

    It goes both ways, don't kid your self! Utah may have Chris B stirring the pot, but BYU has more screen names they I can list. Personally I think think the D News does a pretty dang good job of keeping in civil.

  • IRS Agent PROVO, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 9:43 a.m.

    Come on Deseret News and show some consistency. How do Chris B's comments add to the discussion or generate any positive dialog? You have lost credibility with your ridiculous double standard. His comments on here (and every other article) are there to do nothing but provoke the vitriol between the schools fans. It causes every discussion to deteriorate to a lower level. It adds no positive value. Please don't make the readers that actually have valid points have to endure his comments.

  • byufan1993 Provo, , UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 9:32 a.m.

    Chris B

    have sources for those "other newspapers"?

  • Jealous U Alpine, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 9:21 a.m.

    Chris B

    LOL at your spin.

    Now that Bronco has offered a scholarship, Kyle will be quick to follow.

    It's what Whit does; rely on other coaches, like Bronco, to correctly assess talent, and then try to piggybank off of their work, just like he relied on Urban Meyer and Gary Anderson to build the program Kyle took credit for.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Dec. 12, 2012 9:01 a.m.

    Number of outright WAC championships during 1962-1999 (when BYU and UofU were in conference)
    BYU: 12
    New Mexico: 2
    Wyoming: 3
    Utah: 0

    W/L record against WAC teams since the U joined the PAC and BYU went independent
    BYU: 10-1
    Utah: 0-1

    I suggest the trolls stop talking WAC smack until their teams win a few games against WAC teams.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 8:48 a.m.

    Other newspapers are saying he has always been a Ute fan and wanted a Ute offer but that it never came, and that is why he chose BYU.


    I wonder how many players always wanted to play for BYU, but "settled" on Utah after a BYU offer never came.

    Shows that these two programs are on vastly different levels in terms of talent.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Dec. 12, 2012 8:47 a.m.

    Good for Bernard; I hope he does well. It seems like Herriman's football program has come along way, in a short time.

  • MSA lehi, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 8:38 a.m.

    It's too bad a simple article turns into bashing each others programs instead of talking about the recruit. Those doing it are clearly not comfortable with their teams programs.

    From this cougar fan - welcome Francis, looks like you are a very versitile player with a good mix of size and speed. Can't wait to see you on the field in a couple years after your mission. I'm optomistic about the future of cougar football with quality athletes like you joining us.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Dec. 12, 2012 8:34 a.m.

    Chris B -

    Which bowl game are your "big boys" playing in?? Oh, wait.

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Dec. 12, 2012 8:23 a.m.

    Classy Utah fans must cringe every time they see CB's screen name at the top of another comments section.

    Francis Bernard is the type of player who will leave on a mission, return to redshirt a year and get back in shape, and then will suddenly burst onto the scene causing many fans to wonder where this kid came from.

    Welcome aboard Francis!

  • anti BCS Anaheim, CA
    Dec. 12, 2012 7:48 a.m.


    The "big boy" Utes are 0-1 against the "powerhouse" WAC boys and DROPPED even closer to the basement in year two of the PAC 10.2.

    If Utah could have only beaten the WAC boys, the mighty weak Utes wouldn't be playing in the couch potato bowl.

    Should be really exciting to watch the continuing downward spiral in the years to come.

  • Disgruntled Nephi, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 7:21 a.m.

    The big boys that play PAC 12 football. You mean the ones that LOST to USU?

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 11, 2012 10:13 p.m.

    With that weichers kid decommitting from byu to usu and this kid going to USU, it looks like we're going to have some real recruiting battles between WAC powerhouses byu and usu, for all the leftover kids who couldnt get a Pac 12 offer.

    Should be exciting to watch in the years to come.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 11, 2012 9:57 p.m.

    "received a lot of Pac 12 attention" but no Pac 12 offers?

    How cute. Trying to compare him to the big boys that play Pac 12 football.