GOP still has questions about discarded ballots in Matheson-Love race

County clerk 'upset' about claims she didn't allow scrutiny of ballots

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  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Dec. 1, 2012 2:34 p.m.

    lost in DC

    You certainly were "lost" in seeing what I meant by my post. I am not in the 4th District and happy that I didn't have to choose between those two. I never talked about Gore/Bush, gerrymandering, uncounted ballots, etc, only that it is over.

    My point is that the election has been declared and so now let's move on. Enough angst already.......

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 5:51 p.m.

    Dear Lost in DC: I love you. It's so great to have a fellow poster on here who also actually understands economics and knows something about Washington!

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 5:45 p.m.

    If a race is within 1,000 votes, I promise, Republicans will never win it--George Bush being a rare exception. It is interesting that the county that isn't allowing the ballots to be viewed is the one where the clerk is a Democrat.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 3:46 p.m.

    thanks for reiterating my point.

    Matheson CHOSE to run where he ran. Gerrymandering has nothing to do with it.

    the congressional districts are not defined geographically? You mean the 1st district can have people from Beaver, Blanding, Park City, SLC, Prove, Ogden, Wendover, & Snowville, and the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th can too?

    Yes, let's NOT forget under bush that our deficits were counted in the billions rather than the trillions - how our unemployment rate was between 4.2 and 7.4 percent - how we had a LOWER casualty rate in Afghanistan - how consumer confidence and economic growth were high.

    Let me give you an economics lesson -
    We also need to remember how barney frank sent our economy over a cliff by requiring major secondary housing market makers abandon lending standards, causing the collateral for all the derivative products to be worthless. we see the dem reaction to it, dudd-frank, did NOT end too-big-to-fail, but further encouraged it while limiting credit availability, further dampening our economy.

    And the civics lesson -
    the state legislature sets the congressional districts, dems cannot control the state legislature and therefore are not the driving force in district boundaries. get over it.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 2:23 p.m.

    Lost in DC-
    Here is a civics lesson for you. The congressional districts were re-drawn to represent the demographics of the state instead of a specific geography. That was the GOP's explanation not any Democrats. When an existing district is redrawn by the party in power and it favors that party it is called gerrymandering. It's a fact, Matheson's district was redrawn by the GOP. So much so, he decided to run in another district. Lucky for him he ran against Mia instead of Chris Stewart as he would have lost. Nothing for me to get over. I care not for either candidate as they both represent the problem(s) not the solution. Let us not forget how the Republicans ran our country when they controlled congress and the White House just a few years back.

  • NedGrimley Brigham City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 9:37 a.m.

    Why would the clerk be so concerned about making sure everything is laid out in plain sight? If she, and everyone else that wanted Mr Matheson to win is sure he did, fairly and correctly, then open the boxes and let the Repugs knock themselves out verifying the votes.

  • hamongog Sandy, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 9:31 a.m.

    Subtitle on article sure changed quickly from "Clerk fires back" to "Clerk upset!"

    Sherrie Swensen is about as polemical as Winnie the Poo. Shame on Thomas Wright for his spurious implications! Leave it to the Des News to attempt to embroil her in Thomas Wright's "scandal!" The Utah establishment won't rest until they obliterate any vestige of an alternate approach to public policy. Whatever happened to "There must needs be opposition in all things?" Utahns are complicit when they say nothing about gerrymandering and continue to vote one way.

    Corruption in the Governor's Mansion, secrecy prevails, the fox guards the hen house in the State Auditor's Office and Utahns tell themselves "all is well, all is well."

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 8:47 a.m.

    Ernest, toosmart(really??), Impartial, I M LDS2, two for flinching, Moderate, scwells, imautefan,

    Al Franken, MN senate race, required numerous recounts. Where was your condemnation then over his refusing to accept defeat? Amazing how each recount of disputed and provisional (questionable) ballots brought him closer until the DEM sec. of state declared him victor.

    Al Gore, Florida, 2000, where was your condemnation then over his refusing to accept defeat? Geez, your side was complaining about that for at least 10 years!

    OH, it’s OK when it’s a DEM, but heaven forbid ANYONE should EVER question an all-benevolent and omniscient dem!

    The claim of gerrymandering is bogus. Matheson CHOSE to run the in 4th district, rather than the district in which he lives. your side continually LOSES state house and senate races - get over it!

  • Emajor Ogden, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 8:45 a.m.

    I can see why the Utah GOP is upset and trying to find victory in this. They spent a lot of time gerrymandering the congressional districts in this state and want some kind of payoff for their hard work. They'll tweak the district boundaries a little bit better next time around to ensure this never happens again.

  • mcdugall Layton, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 8:14 a.m.

    The Utah Republican party needs to reflect on their loss and figure out how they can perform better in 2014, not waste any more time with "more questions", of which they won't publicly state what those questions are...

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 8:08 a.m.

    Stunning losses like Mia's hurt for awhile. They'll be a rematch in 2014 but Mitt won't be on the ballot and the GOP won't be able to gerry mander the district once again. Maybe 1/4 of Utah's seat are meant to be out of the GOP's control. But Jim votes alongside the GOP more times than naught so it's really an image more than substacne issue.

  • JayTee Sandy, UT
    Nov. 29, 2012 9:34 p.m.

    I really don't think it matters what I say on this comment mechanism, because the monitor is evidently on vacation or something, so I don't get an "accepted" or "denied" message either way and my comments also don't appear--so I guess it's a waste of time to mess with it.

  • WestGranger West Valley City, Utah
    Nov. 29, 2012 8:48 p.m.

    Democrats ask questions in extremely close elections too. Remember?

  • ImaUteFan West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 29, 2012 8:37 p.m.

    @ IM LDS 2: "Rove still thinks Mitt can win Ohio" . . . hilarious comment, my friend!

    I was watching that whole scenario play out on Fox and what a comedy show that was. Rove just couldn't fathom that Obama was winning in ALL of the swing states except North Carolina. His desperation was downright pathetic.

    State of Utah Republicans: Can't you stand to let even one Utah Democrat hold public office? Please, just let it go.

  • scwells st george, UT
    Nov. 29, 2012 7:56 p.m.

    it's over let it go

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 29, 2012 7:11 p.m.

    That seems to the new Republican line... "we have questions".
    They had questions about Libya.
    They met with Ambassador Rice. Their post meeting comment "we still have questions".
    They meet with the CIA director. Their post meeting comment "we still have questions".
    Quit telling the press "we have questions". ASK your questions.

    Just like the campaign when they said "we have solutions", but then never presented solutions!

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    Nov. 29, 2012 6:44 p.m.

    Rove still thinks Mitt can win Ohio.

    The Utah GOP still thinks Love can win in Utah.

    Mitt still thinks he is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    What is with Republicans? Denial is their permanent residence, and I don't mean the (Islamic-controlled) river in Egypt!

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Nov. 29, 2012 6:43 p.m.

    Jeez Utah GOP give it a rest. You lost. How about you pony up 14,000 to pay to look at those ballots? You know, just like you charged the Dems to look at your gerrymandering hijinks in Love's district.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Nov. 29, 2012 6:03 p.m.

    It's over----Mia lost.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 29, 2012 5:49 p.m.

    The GOP is just angry that they did everything possible to silence the voice of 40% of Utahns who are moderate to liberal, and it didn't work.
    It serves them right.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 29, 2012 5:27 p.m.

    Like fast & furious, time will pass, and this whole thing will blow over.