Utah ranked fourth best-run state, according to Wall Street 24/7

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  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 8:38 a.m.

    Best run? Did they look at education? Class size?
    Did they look at how most law is enacted by a very oppressive GOP,
    with little regard for the rest of us?

    How, exactly, ,did they come to this very surprising conclusion?

  • Pack Layton, Utah
    Nov. 29, 2012 5:23 p.m.

    @makesurenexttme, sorry I made a mistake. I am proud of a profession which tries to make a difference with our children and youth. Is the system perfect? No, but who is? Not me.

  • makesurenexttime sandy, UT
    Nov. 29, 2012 4:46 p.m.

    The fact that you misspelled the word 'condescending' and didn't proof your text, confirms to me that you must indeed be a 'Utah educator for over 30 years'

  • Owl Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 29, 2012 4:44 p.m.

    Spending only what you earn without killing the goose that lays the golden egg seems to be a foreign concept in some states. Congratulations to Utah. States like New York spend more per capita on education and waste much, much more. To get a decent education in NYC you opt out of the public system, something not widely publicized in Wisconsin. Wisconsin public sector employees almost bankrupted their state.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 29, 2012 4:38 p.m.

    Could it be that being a perfect state for business is not a perfect state for people. Is America for people and their quest for life, liberty and pursuit of happiness or is America simply a farm where people are regarded like cattle.

    Is Utah known for it’s support of freedom and human rights or is it known as a taker of freedom from people to be given to business.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Nov. 29, 2012 4:26 p.m.


    I know some folks that had the option to live in either Maryland or Deleware and they chose Deleware. Why? Tax structure. So I agree with you.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Nov. 29, 2012 4:24 p.m.


    If you are correct please explain the fact that the newspapers reported that the State Legislature needed to find $25 million to plug the hole and why the employee(s) involved suddenly decided to retire. Maybe it was just a coincidence. But how many "computational errors" should one expect to see from a state that is supposedly so well run?

    One I didn't mention, by the way, was the security breach at the State Health Department that is costing millions of dollars for Utah to try and protect the identities of thousands of Utah citizens. Was this another "computational error?"

  • Belching Cow Sandy, UT
    Nov. 29, 2012 2:48 p.m.

    @Midwest Mom
    I think you are jealous that Utah is better than Wisconsin.

  • Pack Layton, Utah
    Nov. 29, 2012 2:14 p.m.

    @Midwest Mom, have you lived in Utah? Well, I have lived in Wisconsin and it truly is a beautiful state with many positives for living there, but as a Utah educator for over 30 years, I really resent your condisending attitude. When I lived in Wisconsin, I met people who were nice. I feel a little resentment in your ramblings.

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Nov. 29, 2012 2:10 p.m.


    You said - "...one must wonder what goes on in the lowest 46 ranking states."

    I can't account for every state, but I know for a fact there are money states, such as California, which are perpetually bleeding red ink and no matter how much they raise taxes or cut the state budget, the numbers never add up.

    Another example is Maryland where state lawmakers raised state income and property taxes, mostly on the highest incomes, projecting it would add over 100-million dollars in new revenue. But as it turned out, the state actually lost over 250-million dollars. Why? The rich simply moved away.

    New York did the same thing. As a result, many wealthy New Yorkers (including I might add that radical Republican actor Alec Baldwin) simply moved their main residence to a nearby state where they don't have to pay as much in taxes.

    Say what you want about Utah's fiscal management, but trust me, a lot of states do have it much worse.

  • Midwest Mom Soldiers Grove, WI
    Nov. 29, 2012 1:22 p.m.

    Considering how little Utah supports education and how poor the outcomes (a recent DN article put Utah 32nd for graduation rate), I think we can see how little value Wall Street places on education and children. Kind of like a "best-run" household that didn't feed the kids or support them in their schooling. I guess it all depends on what you think is important.

    Ever notice that the red states have the poorest families, the worst schools and spend more federal money than the blue ones? I guess keeping people poor doesn't pay, it costs.

  • Belching Cow Sandy, UT
    Nov. 29, 2012 1:20 p.m.

    Hmm... I thought Utah would have ranked higher. 4th's not bad though.

  • mcdugall Layton, UT
    Nov. 29, 2012 12:21 p.m.

    @toosmartforyou There was not a 25 million loss in the Office of Education. There was a computational error, very one large at that, but no there was no actual financial loss incurred at the OE.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Nov. 29, 2012 10:35 a.m.

    When considering the millions wasted on the Legacy Highway environmental mess, the I-15 Utah County Buy-out of the 2nd bidder, the questions surrounding UTA and their executive compemnsation and retirement packages, years ago the syncrete debacle, being closed on Fridays for years, $25 million lost in the State Office of Education, etc, one must wonder what goes on in the lowest 46 ranking states.