State's Hispanic students show a graduation rate of just 57 percent
"How could a state with historically high rates of graduation suddenly drop
so drastically?"How could a state's artificial inflation of
graduation rates suddenly drop so drastically? By applying the same metrics as
anyone else.You'd be shocked (or maybe not) at how many people
turn down jobs in Utah because they'd have to send their kids to Utah
What typically happened statistically wise is that say a young person started at
School X. He struggles and goes to the district's alternative School Y.
He ends up not graduating. School X is off the hook because his last school of
record was School Y. That way most traditional high schools in Utah avoided
"low" graduation rates. The way to measure this is actually more
accurate today. When it says 57% of Hispanic students will graduate,
that's more of an accurate picture of what is happening...
JWB,The State of Utah spends about 2/3's of it's budget on
education. More money for education, then we might have a higher graduation
rate?How much more money is needed for education? The billions spent
on the head start program hasn't lowered poverty. It increased. If large
amounts of money is needed for graduation rates, we'd have every body
graduating. We're fools for following this scam.Managed
frugally, we could easily improve education with half the funding. Just got to
get out of the box.
The State of Utah has to comply with national standards. The State is at fault
as the Legislature and Governor, this Governor, has ensured the funding gets
dished out of the Public School Districts for other types of schooling. The
Office of Education is the state function and they are part of this problem of
not knowing.The Department of Education is beyond it's ability
to ensure what the States should do for education. The State of Utah spends
about 2/3's of it's budget on education. That is a lot of money.
That is why, when the Governor takes $13M from funds and gives it to an ICORE
bidder that is money that could have been used in Utah, not Colorado. However,
his $85,000 contribution was a help for his election in 2010. The
Governor states all the time how well off Utah's economy is. Well, if he
spent money for education and pushed education as much as land development in
his Utah County with freeways and his connection with Wadsworth, then we might
have a higher graduation rate. We live in a protected bubble.Obama's administration is still part of this problem as the Bush
So much wasted funding. Education was about teaching, and learning. Now
it's about comparing, and accountability.Bunch of
rubbish.-----Education has become a scam.
JWB, your comments seem to point towards the Obama administration as being
responsible for the high school graduation rate in Utah. The federal government
doesn't has nearly the affect upon Utah's education system and methods
as does the Utah legislature and governor, and the local school boards and
districts. This is directly and clearly an issue for the State of Utah to work
on. I would discourage anyone from believing the federal government should come
into our state to improve graduation rates. Keep the feds out of this issue!
It was interesting to see that the State Office of Education person over that
area didn't realize that was happening and they would see what caused
that.Obama's administration doesn't want to have a crisis
go by without an advantage for him. He is using that with the Fiscal Cliff
crisis. If it was such a problem for us, why didn't he do something in his
campaigning time to discuss it? The day he got elected he came up with that
tactic.Utah does spend a lot of it's budget for schooling and
education. However, it gives Charter schools a big chunk of that. Are the
private schools counting toward the graduation rate? The U.S.
Department of Education is trying to justify its existance after this last
election when it could have been on the chopping block from some sectors.Just because they come up with numbers doesn't mean they are valid
numbers. This administration hasn't had a budget for 4 years. Need to get
their house in order. Utah is not on their high list, anyway, as No Child Left
Behind, is not a perfect process. UOE needs to validate numbers.
Yes, but were #1 in the lowest spend per pupil!!
Methinks it's about time that we finally begin to properly fund education
in this state.
Education has suffered for years in Utah. Education funding has been slowed or
diverted by the legislature so that there are sufficient funds to pay for other
things like roads.I feel this must change. We cannot continue to
enjoy a strong local economy if we don't make education a priority. We
must pay sufficient to attract and keep great teachers. We must employ those
teaching techniques that are working to make our kids and students competitive
in the world. Our children deserve a great education so that they have
opportunities. I fear we have undercut our children in this state.
Over time we are seeing test scores and graduation rates dropping. This is not
a good trend. Our state leaders have the responsibility to act in such a way
that this trend reverses.
For many years Utah has used metrics that inflated their graduation rates. We
are now required to use the same metrics as every other state. So these
numbers, while you may not agree with how they derive them, are valid when used
to compare our state with other states.As in most things, a bit more
information would be very helpful. For example, if they would publish the
overall graduation rate, and then a few more numbers to give us perspective, it
would be more helpful. Such as the percentage of students who left high school
so they could go right to college (this is a sizable group of kids in Utah -
homeschool types who take a few high school classes but enter college early and
don't graduate), and kids who move to the U.S. in high school but
can't finish with the language challenge, and the percentage of students in
that class where were special education students.
Good work Iowa! #1 in something important.
I would like to know what changes the federal government has mandated in
measuring graduation rates? Seems pretty straight forward to me, but the devil
is in the details. How could a state with historically high rates of graduation
suddenly drop so drastically? Sorry. Doesn't pass the smell test.