Unconventional coach was a winner; Manti for Heisman

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  • Ted H. Midvale, UT
    Nov. 26, 2012 3:27 p.m.


    I just love it when people are so bitter and their hatred of BYU(or Mormons) is so consuming of their time and emotions that even when issues have litte-to-nothing to do with BYU that their emotions and thoughs go immediatley there. My comment was far from a rant. For rant, see a perfect example of what I"m talking about in Antelope Valley as the article has little to nothing relating to BYU, yet Antelope is so consumed about BYU that his thoughts immediately and almost entirely go there.

    If I remember right, you're in the same boat Y ask Y is that right?

    Again - I'm so happy when people are upset and bothered by all things BYU/Mormons. Such childish rants and behavior are expected out of my 3 yeard old daughter. When others act the same, I just can't help but laugh.

    Y ask Y, are your thoughts and emotions controlled by BYU hatred? If so, I'm happy it makes you so upset also!

    Nov. 26, 2012 1:30 p.m.

    Teo is a great story and a fine player. He may even be one of the best defensive players today. But he is 5th on his own team for tackles for loss and is far more the product of Notre Dame media hype than a genuine Heisman-worthy recipient. He is not the "outstanding" player in America by a long shot. That title belongs to Johnny Manziel and anyone who has seen his body of work over the year understands that. Over 3,000 yards passing/1,000 rushing (4,500 yards total offense) against SEC defenses in 12 games? Cam Newton had 300 less in 14 games and Tebow, 500 less in 13 games. Give Teo the Butkis, but Heisman, not a chance!

  • Y Ask Y Provo, UT
    Nov. 26, 2012 11:40 a.m.

    The Heisman? Mike, you need to think about that a bit more. To even propose such a thing reflects badly on you as a "sports writer".

    It would make more sense for Teo to be put up for the Bronko Nagurski Award, or Buck Buchanan Award, or Butkus Award, or Chuck Bednarik Award, or the Jim Thorpe Award, or even the Gagliardi Trophy, but NOT the Heisman!

  • Y Ask Y Provo, UT
    Nov. 26, 2012 11:16 a.m.

    Ted H.

    What was that rant all about?

  • nomo Draper, UT
    Nov. 26, 2012 11:04 a.m.

    Father of 4 your are spot on, in every single sport in the NCAA a freshman can and has been named the best of their sport. There are youngsters winning gold medals in the Olympics, there are freshman winning the NCAA and being voted MVP's in evey other sport, so football writers won't vote for a freshman for the Heisman. give me a break that goes back to the time when freshman were not allowed to play varsity football, those days are long gone!! If writers can't see that, we need a entirely new voting pool.

  • Father of Four Billings, MT
    Nov. 26, 2012 10:09 a.m.

    1. The story on Gagliardi is fantastic. Tackling drills in practice is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Nearly every kid on my 3 sons little league teams have been hurt in practice. Save the tackling drills for games.
    2. Manti Te'o is overhyped (last I checked, the entire team stuffed USC at the goal line but I keep hearing how he lead the team to stop USC) but he is a great player. I also love his Mormon tattoo, something none of you mentioned. I actually love that he has this crazy arm sleeve tattoo but he's still a great ambassador for our faith. It shows we aren't all lilly-white perfect rule followers. It takes all kinds, thankfully.
    3. Not voting for Manziel because he's a freshman is ridiculous. The Heisman is about the best college player, hands down. Arguments like not voting for a freshman, or not voting for someone because he's not an NFL talent (arguments I've heard in previous years), don't hold water. Using a double-blind test, vote for the best player in the game. That's who should win the award.

  • Ted H. Midvale, UT
    Nov. 26, 2012 9:09 a.m.


    I'm so happy BYU has a stranglehold on your emotions. I'm happy that all things BYU bother you. I'm happy knowing that any article that could somehow tie in to BYU(as in Manti being recruited by BYU) drives your thoughts immediately to BYU.

    I'm happy knowing that any time you hear the words BYU, Mormons, General Conference, temple, church, religion, or even Jello your thoughts immediately go to your BYU obsession.

    I am happy byu bothers you.

    It puts a smile on my face knowing how sad BYU makes you! Thanks!

  • common twit Vernal, UT
    Nov. 26, 2012 8:04 a.m.

    I have read two books about John Gagliardi. "NO-How Coaching" was probably the most inspirational book I have read in a long time. It has so much more than just his way of coaching. It is more about how to apply the beliefs into the real world. He seems like he is an amazing man. It is the kind of leadership we need. I like how he has bucked the system for so long. In the book he says, "you don't have to do it like we did it. I am just telling you how we did it."
    Because of his book, I have started taking the unnecessary things out of my life.
    This book came out in 2001. It was written by Jim Collison.
    If you want to read a self help book that is different than the others, I recommend this one!

  • gchris rock springs, wy
    Nov. 26, 2012 8:00 a.m.

    I haven't talked to any BYU fan who is bitter about Te'o's going to Notre Dame. He closed the conversation for most of us when he said his selection was in answer to prayer. I don't think it had anything to do(usually doesn't) with BCS bowl games or national championships. If he had chosen BYU and played like he has at Notre Dame (remember, Notre Dame was one missed BYU receiver away from a BYU win) he would be an NFL draft pick anyway. Manti's prayers were answered in ways that most people will never know by choosing Notre Dame. I hope he wins the Heisman, avoids serious injury, has a Pro-bowl career in the NFL, marries a Mormon girl and raises a son who will play for BYU!

  • The Dixie Kid Saint George, UT
    Nov. 26, 2012 6:17 a.m.

    Please don't vote for Te'o for Heisman. The only reason the guy is mentioned is because he is given so much exposure by ESPN and other outlets. He is the Tebow of college football.

  • AntelopeValleyUte Palmdale, CA
    Nov. 25, 2012 8:55 p.m.

    I know Manti Te'o was sought after by a lot of big time schools across the country, including BYU. He chose Notre Dame for several reasons, and in the process, disappointing some BYU faithful who felt he should have gone to BYU because he is Mormon and a very good football player. It wasn't to be. I believe he has benefited greatly from his experience at Notre Dame, showing his talent and skills as a football player, and at the same time, representing his Mormon faith under the bright lights. While many BYU fans may not have liked the road he chose, he chose it for a reason. He did more for the Mormon church and himself as a person, than many BYU fans or Mormons will give him credit for. Some may see that now, but for years ago, not. Perhaps he wanted the exposure at a big time school and a chance at playing in a BCS bowl game, or even a national championship game (lets be real and honest, slim chances of getting there with BYU during his collegiate career). He definitely has the talent, skills, and ability to play in the NFL.