BYU returns home after tough weekend in N.Y.

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  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    Nov. 19, 2012 12:26 p.m.

    Zylstra is the Riley Nelson of the basketball team, but doesn't have the ball in his hands for every play like Riley. Both make enough nice plays to give you hope they're at least competent, but then Riley throws a wobbly ground ball to an open receiver three plays in a row or Zylstra fires a baseline jumper off the side of the backboard, clangs a dunk against the side of the rim, and fires an air ball. Zylstra will inevitably have a couple of those 20 point games, going 5 for 6 on threes, but he'll balance them out with a handful of 2 point games. He'd be a dominant church ball player, but if he's starting for a D1 school, they're not going anywhere.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 19, 2012 12:00 p.m.

    It's still early in the season and this team is still very young. NY was disappointing, but after getting blown off the court by a very talented and hot shooting Florida State team, the Cougars settled down and played much better against Notre Dame.

    Gonzaga is clearly the best team in the WCC this season, and Saint Mary's looked good beating USU in the Spectrum, but Rose always figures out how to get the most out of his players, so I'm still expecting BYU to challenge for the WCC title and make it's 7th straight NCAA tourney appearance.

  • GD Syracuse, UT
    Nov. 19, 2012 11:37 a.m.

    Calvert is a better point guard than Carlino. He knows how to settle and get the team into its offense. Carlino forces things when nothing is there. It is difficult to watch him dribble into trouble. He says he knows he played bad but I don't think he understands why. Davies gets dumb fouls. If he expects to play he needs to learn not to foul. He had at least 8 fouls that could have been called. Too often the middle is left wide open when we are in a defensive rotation. It seems like our big men come out too high on the defensive end and can't get back. I think Winder will help us if he ever gets well enough. I wish Davies had a nice jump hook like Harward. Harward gave us some pretty good minutes. He just needs to get stronger. Despite all my negativism I think the potential to be a pretty good team is there, though we still aren't good three point shooters.

  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    Nov. 19, 2012 11:13 a.m.

    Hooo, boy. Could be a long year. I'm guessing we still win 22-25 games but end up in the NIT. This is a frustrating group to watch, as the only guy who seems to have the complete package of skill and confidence is Haws. That guy is just an alpha dog and he's going to be fun to follow for the next 3 years. I don't remember a better mid-range J. He shoots it with bigs in his face like he's in the gym all alone.

    Davies, as others have pointed out, is not a smart player. It's not just the constant foul trouble; it's his tendency to make easy plays into difficult plays. I don't remember which game it was, but it typified this flaw . . he was two feet from the rim, faked a guy out of his jock, but instead of going up strong to finish or drawing a foul, he spun into the lane (into traffic) and threw up a fadeaway hook shot. Not gonna work against quality teams.

    Zylstra and Carlino? Should be majoring in masonry.

  • kfbob SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 19, 2012 9:48 a.m.

    BYU has 3 players with that tend to short circuit in tough situations: Davies has shown that he still lacks patience. When he gets frustrated he makes stupid fouls, bad passes and travels; Brock Zylsta short circuits and thinks he is a point guard and refuses to pass the ball to people ahead of him and generally is an inconsistent shooter; Carlino takes emotional random shots at the worst possible time. Each suffers from Low Basketball IQ. However, I think Carlino can be cured. He is showing better decision making and isn't turning over so much. His shot is still struggling be he has shown improvement. This is the week that Dave Rose will need to determine if Raul Delgado is a player or a practice squad guy for he next two years. I can't understand why Cusick gets more than 5-7 min. per game. Raul should be getting most of his minutes. Haws has the highest BB IQ but lack serious athletic or physical abilities like Davies or Carlino.

  • Seattleview Federal Way, WA
    Nov. 19, 2012 7:36 a.m.

    "My bad"

    Now doesnt that just make everything better?

  • dumprake Washington, UT
    Nov. 18, 2012 9:38 p.m.

    For four years now Davies has consistently gotten into early foul trouble, and most of the time it's dumb fouls that get him into trouble. He can't be that dumb, I don't believe he is, but until he gets smarter about this issue and realizes that he and the team are way better off with him in the game, BYU will continue to be a mediocre team. We don't have any depth at center, maybe Austin and Harward will come along and get better, but Davies can't waste the rest of his senior season sitting on the bench in foul trouble.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Nov. 18, 2012 6:46 p.m.

    What I learned in NY.

    Haws is even better that I thought he'd be.

    Davies still has a tendency to get into foul. Without Hartsock, we are hurting on the front line when Davies is out. Austin and Harward are still young, but both are even more foul prone than Davies.

    Zylstra played as expected.

    I'm only glad that Carlino can accurately assess himself. On what was one of the biggest stages of his BYU career, he played "awful". Raul is not going to rescue our perimeter game like some hoped. Calvert has huge upside.