BYU MBA ranks 32, down 5 spots, by Businessweek

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  • JP Skillet Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 17, 2012 2:04 p.m.

    re: Logit. That's only partially true. Indeed what you get is BRAND, but there is much more to b-school than the cases and course outcomes. There are unique experiences, cultures and programs that each school offers which differ from others. Not to mention companies that recruit there (which falls into brand).

    What you've said is similar to saying that playing football at Arizona is "pretty much the same" as playing football at Oregon or Alabama. The plays are the same, coaches all collaborate and move around, etc. NO that's not true. Do that comparison and you'll understand. BYU is a fine school but it's nowhere near the top schools, and for good reason. And even if you say BRAND is the difference, well everything that goes into that school is part of the BRAND.

  • Logit ,
    Nov. 16, 2012 9:22 a.m.

    People contemplating an MBA or watching these rankings need to realize that the difference between MBAs is about BRAND--as in name brand vs. generic. The course content across B-schools is largely the same. The accreditation process ensures that. They all teach the same cases (most of which are written at Harvard); they all use the same textbooks; and the professors all visit and collaborate. Rather, what you're buying from a Harvard or Stanford vs. a BYU is a BRAND.

    That doesn't mean that which B-school you go to isn't important. It just means the content isn't all that different. Your MBA brand reveals how stringent the acceptance process was and the type of classmates with whom you'll rub shoulders and network. These are all signals and indicators to your future employer.

  • UgottaloveMaxie Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 16, 2012 8:47 a.m.

    We don't worry about rankings because we have a higher purpose and the world is our campus.

  • killpack Sandy, UT
    Nov. 16, 2012 8:47 a.m.

    My mistake, Cougar10. If the Marriott School let someone in with a 580 GMAT, and overall has a 44% acceptance rate, it's much easier to get into than I thought. That's news to me. Thank you for the correction.

  • Cougar10 West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 16, 2012 6:20 a.m.

    First of all, BYU is not as hard to get into as Stanford, Harvard, Booth, Wharton, etc. Whoever tries to say they are similar is crazy. The average gmat for BYU is around 675 with a 44% acceptance rate. Stanford is around a 720 average gmat with a 7% acceptance rate. Unless you have a killer business background, don't even try applying to the top 10 with lower than a 700 gmat. I know a woman that got into BYU with a 580 because why??? she was a girl. The top programs don't play that game.

    BYU is dropping in the rankings because they are not very diverse. I would bet that the majority of their students are BYU undergrads that studied corporate finance or business management. And yes, we all know they served missions and speak different languages. That no longer counts for diversity, especially when all of your classmates are in the same boat. Top programs have diverse backgrounds so that students can learn from one another (case study method).

    However, "common sense is greater than an MBA" -Larry Miller

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    Nov. 15, 2012 11:12 p.m.

    Next time, correlate your picture with the article.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 15, 2012 9:02 p.m.

    sammyg - seriously.... you think be in a top 40 school is going to make all that difference. I deal with MBA type kids all the time, and honestly what school they went to make nearly no difference what so ever. There are just as many idiot kids coming out of top ranked schools as there are kids with the right stuff coming from no name schools. If you are hired by a company because you went to the right school rather than you show the right aptitude, run away from that company.

    I think BYU has a special mission in this world. That to me has nothing to do with its ranking. Creating creative, ethical, and hard working employees is far more important that being a book worm from a "top school".

    If your leader really believes your kids earning power will be dependent on if he has a Y or a U on his diploma, he isn't showing much faith in your kids business street smarts. Larry Ellison, Michael Dell and Bill Gates..... it was their vision, not their degree that made them who they are.

  • JP Skillet Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 15, 2012 8:04 p.m.

    Until they can attract the international, ethnic minority students and more qualified women they won't move up. And the school's focus is teaching so that hurts them also.

  • killpack Sandy, UT
    Nov. 15, 2012 6:49 p.m.


    Has he applied anywhere else? Putting all of your hopes in one B-school basket isn't wise. He doesn't have to settle for the U, which by the way isn't a bad MBA program, but if he is holding out for just BYU, he may be in for a long wait. The Marriott School is as hard to get into as Harvard, Booth, Sloan, Stern, Tuck, etc., etc., and those schools are much more prestigious. If I were him, I'd apply to all of them, and just 'settle' for the one I got into.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Nov. 15, 2012 5:03 p.m.

    And where was the 'other' Utah school in the rankings???

    "... No other Utah schools were rated in the top 63 MBA programs in the U.S., according to the report."

    Congrats to BYU... the best MBA program in the state.

    Now I know why my son is waiting it out to get in to BYU. He got accepted to the U but this is obviously worth waiting for. His stake president told him to push harder for admission to BYU.

    Nov. 15, 2012 4:41 p.m.

    It would be nice if the article actually mentioned what was changed over prior years!