President Barack Obama will face education issues in second term

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  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 22, 2012 10:44 p.m.

    I can see it now:

    * longer school days, and year--restrict independent time
    * more accountability to tests
    * blame and punish teachers
    * new government objectives, and strategies

    Our schools will resemble prisons.

  • raybies Layton, UT
    Nov. 20, 2012 7:08 a.m.

    One thing I noticed in a decent school system outside of Utah that I think is a troubling trend in parenting, is that parents outside of Utah don't cooperate well with other parents or children. They see education as a giant competition that only their child can win.

    For example, It was ironic, that the PTSA in our school district was mostly LDS, not because they were predominantly LDS (in a school with literally a thousand kids, maybe a couple dozen were LDS), but because LDS believed in volunteering. They work collectively for the betterment of all kids, not just their own.

    The honors programs were clogged with parents pushing their kids into the fast track, but they couldn't be bothered to help at with the school-wide reading program's icecream social... instead they'd inform that event organizer that their child felt bad for not having qualified for the event, and want to cancel the whole event, because their child had special needs and might feel excluded.

    I think we'd all benefit from a little more volunteer spirit, and a little less looking for how my kid's being victimized by the system.

  • metamoracoug metamora, IL
    Nov. 16, 2012 7:50 p.m.

    The federal government needs to get its nose out of my local school district's business.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Nov. 15, 2012 6:35 p.m.


    Is it because Utah might have more supportive parents, have less divorce, less poverty and less other challenges than California that leads to these better results? I would like to think if Utah used a different approach the results would be better. And would using Utah's approach in California help things there or make it worse? And by the way Utah's education results are declining and Utah doesn't fare well against other states with similar demographics so perhaps a change in approach would be best.

  • metisophia Ogden, UT
    Nov. 15, 2012 2:22 p.m.

    The best thing Obama could do for education is to dump Duncan and put in Diane Ravitch as education secretary, end the ridiculous Race to the Top, put the ESEA back together the way it was before the debacle NCLB was created, and stop requiring high stakes testing which is creating a generation of young people who are afraid to experiment for fear of getting a wrong answer.

  • don17 Temecula, CA
    Nov. 15, 2012 12:09 p.m.

    Mike You make some very valid points! But, keep in perspective some of the following.

    California dumps 50 plus billion into education each year and has the 2nd highest paid teachers in the nation and has a dropout rate near 50 percent with some major cities near 60 percent!

    California just passed a tax increase of 7 billion per year that will backfill pensions for all these failed teachers. It won't make a bit of difference. Except more businesses and tax payers will be coming your way!

    Arne Duncan led the Chicago City Schools to a 50 percent dropout rate as well!

    It seems to me that though Utah's system may not fit everyones goal of effectiveness it sure is much better than what the tarnished golden state, or the feds have to offer!

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Nov. 15, 2012 11:56 a.m.

    Utah's own education system is flawed on so many levels.

    Most kids per class, least per-pupil spending, teachers paying for
    everyday school supplies out of pocket....

    And all the while, that guy in the Governor's mansion says that "education is my highest priority".
    What's wrong with this picture?