Jon Huntsman Jr. shares vision for ‘fine-tuning’ Republican Party

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  • kargirl Sacramento, CA
    Nov. 16, 2012 3:29 p.m.

    Gov. Huntsman seems to think that some tweaking in the message may have changed the outcome of the election and allowed a different outcome. Don't think so, with all due respect. The candidate would have been just as diluted in message and just as unable to be honest to his would-be electorate or straightforward in plans, and just as disdainful of the poorest of this nation's citizenry--as we saw from his post-election commentary--as ever. It wouldn't have helped. This is the party that saw Mr. Huntsman as a traitor to its cause because he chose to accept a position for which he was preeminently qualified under a Democratic administration as a declaration of party loyalty instead of country loyalty as it was. If Romney had been a Democrat, he would have lost this election, too. It was not his party, it was his message.

  • jimmy5804 Draper, UT
    Nov. 16, 2012 11:09 a.m.

    I'd give max donation to Huntsman and probably even some time. I'm practically desperate for a middle-right candidate.

  • nhprman ,
    Nov. 16, 2012 10:02 a.m.

    If Gov. Huntsman had not hinted, during the campaign, that he would basically roll over and not stand up to China, I would have been a huge supporter. As it stood, his statements were grossly naive and I think he was blinded by his close association with China to reverse the horrendous damage that "free" trade with slave wage nations has done to our economy.

  • runwasatch Ogden, UT
    Nov. 15, 2012 4:39 p.m.

    "Sell out, hand out, and divide just to get elected" is the methodology and vision of Huntsman. We already have a party that has that mastered, don't we Mr. Dubakis!

  • runnerguy50 Virginia Beach, Va
    Nov. 15, 2012 6:02 a.m.

    Huntsman is a democrat. Huntsman will run as a democrat in the next election. Huntsman ran as a liberal republican to make Romney look bad. The idea that someone leaves the Obama adminstration runs as a republican and then goes back to the Obama admin shows us Huntsman had orders from the Obama camp. Its laughable that others including the media dont see it.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 4:48 p.m.

    re:Henry Drummond

    Fox News is the only news I watch or trust. Stopped watching CNN 4 years ago when I saw how they provided shameful cover for Barack. The other so-called news organizations are nothing but lap dog media propaganda cheerleaders for Barack Obama. So Henry - what do you watch? MSNBC maybe followed by the Bill Maher show?? Just wondering.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 3:58 p.m.

    There's no "fine tuning" something like the immmigration plank of the platform.
    Huntsman's view is akin to blue dog democrats and was exposed in the GOP debates earlier this year. He's hardly a standard bearer for the party.
    His brand of politics might be palatable for some, but it's far from the mainstream GOP, even while they are licking their wounds.

  • Shelama SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 1:23 p.m.

    Huntsman may have avoided the names but let's be honest about the people who handed this election to Obama: Fox, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, etc,

    This election should have been a slam-dunk landslide for the Republicans and would have been had there been a half-way decent candidate from a half-way responsible republican party. The narrow Democratic victory only goes to show how relatively few people the over-the-top, angry, snarling, warped, snarky, demonizing RSM rhetoric has to alienate. But it still should have been a landslide!

    Look no further back than the unbelievable Republican primary circus: who and what drove that disastrous bunch of candidates? Huntsman alone was not tainted by Tea Party/birther craziness or the blatant need to pander to them (à la the flip-flopping Mitt Romney). And how was the craziness induced, aided and abetted to such irrational and un-Godly proportions? How did the Republicans end up with so many low-information, gullible voters controlling their primaries?

    People may have been disappointed in Obama (8 million fewer voters than in 2008) but they saw the Republicans as crazy and those 8M did not vote for Romney.

  • raybies Layton, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 11:30 a.m.

    I love huntsman's approach.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 11:22 a.m.

    Chuckle at the comments suggesting Huntsman and other Republicans should be more like Reagan. Check the history, Reagan may have talked liked a conservative but he was as moderate as Huntsman. In 5 out of his 8 budgets the democratically controlled congress actually spent less than he requested. Federal spending as a percent of GDP was pretty close to today's "socialist" administration. Deficits sky rocketed under him as well. Reagan supported immigration reform. The list goes on. Reagan could give a speech but it was lip service. Conservatives today would be as excited with Reagan as they are with Huntsman. Read your history instead of getting it spoon fed by talk radio.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 9:33 a.m.

    Spoken like a true Trust Fund kid who wants to spend everyones money but his own. Jon Boy, give up all your money you got from Dad, get a real job for real wages, then you can have this talk with us.

  • liberal larry salt lake City, utah
    Nov. 14, 2012 7:56 a.m.

    I gotta hand it to you conservatives. A candidate like Huntsman would OWN the middle in a national race, yet he is soundly rejected by the Republican base.

    I guess the reason Romney lost is because his is not conservative enough, maybe you should put up Rick Santorum, against Hillary in 2016, and see how that works out.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 14, 2012 6:12 a.m.

    Based on the comments here, I think this begs the question what does it mean to be a Republican. I know about 8 years ago I knew when I was no longer aligned with the party as driven by Dick Cheney. I loved the frank talk of Alan Simpson. He let you know when he disagreed with ya. But Simpson never tried to define what kind of Republican others could be. Cheney and team changed all that.

    We now see that progression continue. The claims the Huntsman isn't republican enough show that the party is becoming an ever tighter, less inclusive party. Gone is the Big Tent party of Reagan. It seems doomed to continue down the path of being the party of angry while males.

    We've seen this crowd before.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 5:15 a.m.

    The GOP should listen, but they won't. It's a party that appeals to the lowest common denominator in our nation. Watch as the crazy right rears its head again and the Republicans will think they can exploit it to get ahead. In the end, they will fail.

  • AmPatriot Taylorsville, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 4:39 a.m.

    The people have given up hope of working for a living because the Republicans turned off the lights and closed a lot of doors with cheap shot tactics to exploit the workers with lost incomes and wages. The republicans expect people to live outside their means with debt and indentured servitude which is unsustainable for workers and prosperity. Prosperity is not debt and never will be.

    They need to convert their policies to conform to free enterprise, free will, free choice, better pay, no welfare, and protect the citizens from business exploitation rather than be the problem of exploiting workers for profit. Establish profit and workers share programs and laws so all can benefit from the growth and prosperity that it will bring.

    Selfish greed must be terminated and obligation and care for the workers should be the duty of business, big and small. Workers have a right to equality in shared profits of business, there is more of their blood and sweat making a company or factories prosper than the owners or stock holders exploiting their services and driving Rolls Royce's.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 4:26 a.m.

    The comments means one thing, no one knows what the Republican party is. The republicans think of people (citizens) as subjects to be exploited by taxing them and giving their taxation to private business to guarantee cheap labor and low wage jobs. They have to put citizens (tax payers) first, not business or foreign nationals.

    The Republicans need to redirect their values, adopt Tea Party attitudes. The people are the voters and electorate, business follow the people and the Republicans try to force people into undesirable jobs. Bribing business for hopes of tax revenue is a waste of time in jobs and revenue when the job/wages are funded by welfare tax. Exploiting the people (citizens) to fund private business is wrong and illegal.

    Rep's lose elections because the Republicans exploit the people for business and the rich, and a threat to the welfare state of government dependents they created. Peoples incomes are the real economy, not business profits. One person paying income and sales tax does more for the economy than 100,000 welfare dependents and freeloader foreign nationals.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 11:06 p.m.

    I thought Huntsman was a good governor, but lost respect for him when he ran his campaign like he didn't take it seriously.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 11:02 p.m.

    I think what all the 'experts' are forgetting is that the American public has an attention span of about 6 minutes. Nobody bothers to learn about the candidates or their positions. They certainly don't seem to care about how the present affects the future. It's all about what the country can do for you and not what you can do for your country.

  • How gr8 isthat Washington, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 10:57 p.m.

    The nation needs to come to the center. Forget your pride and your FOX-MSNBC deities and their ideas. We need to come together and give our children a debt free nation. Polarizing to the extremes will only hurt us more. Huntsman, yes left of the rights center, but still a republican.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 8:23 p.m.

    The Republicans would be ill-adivsed to accept advice from someone who is actually more of a Democrat than a Republican.

    Rather than being a cheap "Democrat lite" copy of the liberal philosophy, the Republicans need to offer a bold and distinct conservative option. Be more like Reagan, not like McCain, and definitely not like Huntsman.

  • first2third Elmo, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 7:55 p.m.

    Agree with Instereo and must say Third Try can stay as the "Delegate" for the right wing Republicans.

    Problem Solvers is a good name for the new third party. If you want to compromise get things done, balance budgets by closing deductions for those making over 250,000 in personal income and raise rates for capital gains over 250,00. At the same time, Cut spending on programs, limit federal benefit times, raise the retirement age social security eligibility, have graduated medicare for future generations. Get rid of as much regulation as we can for our businesses while insuring fair business practices both at home and abroad. End most government subsidies, cut foreign aid in at least half. Understand that I love my wife and hate the thought of abortion, but that this is a country of freedom, and based on the constitution, should let the states decide on marriage and abortion issues.

    That's a start.

  • No One Of Consequence West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 7:47 p.m.

    If only the Republican Party were more like the Democrats...
    ...then no one would bother to vote for them.

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 7:44 p.m.

    Jon has essentially no influence in the Republican Party. He's dreaming if he thinks he's going to pull the party any direction. Not going to happen.

    There's a much greater chance he'll switch parties, and that would actually make a lot of sense. His views match better as a Democrat.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 13, 2012 7:31 p.m.

    Like Romney who is not well liked in Boston and Detroit where he served previously, Huntsman would not do well in Utah if he ran again locally or nationally. Still I think Huntsman is one of the brightest figures needed to redefine the republican party unless he goes independent.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Nov. 13, 2012 6:32 p.m.

    The idea of Fox News being a media elite is a thought that is going to take some time getting used to. It does fit though. For decades conservatives complained about media elites who only gave one side of the story. In the age of cable TV and the Internet you have all kinds of information yet most people prefer to listen to those who reinforce their own ideas. As James Carvell said, people use the conservative press like a drunk uses a lamp-post. Its for support and not illumination.

  • Instereo Eureka, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 6:30 p.m.

    Sensible Republicans should just let the Tea Party have the Republican Party. Then they should form another more moderate party that addresses the problems of our county in a productive way. If they did that, they would be able to brand themselves as sensible and the Republicans would just fade away like the Whigs did in the 1850's. They also wouldn't have all the baggage that goes with their name and would be able to attract moderate democrats and maybe actually change things. Isn't that what big corporations do when something isn't going right with them.

  • djk blue springs, MO
    Nov. 13, 2012 6:03 p.m.

    huntsman is a member of the church but his actions speak loudly....don't really trust the man

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    Nov. 13, 2012 5:36 p.m.

    So, are you saying that her dad wasn't behind her being on that show?
    After he does his best, to simmer his loyalty to the lds church.
    Interesting concept.....

  • danaslc Kearns, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 5:25 p.m.

    Huntsman is a scary little guy.

  • doingmybest upland, CA
    Nov. 13, 2012 5:21 p.m.

    John Huntsman is too good for the Republican party, he will never be appreciated there...He has sound ideas,is moderate and pragmatic...a man of principles...I hope he gets the nod for a high level job with the Obama administration...he has proven his desire to serve the country ahead of party.

    Nov. 13, 2012 4:47 p.m.

    Aggielove: Although I am also disappointed with some comments made by Jon Huntsman's daughter, I know that parents can NOT control what their adult children do or say.

    That concept is known as "agency".

  • George Bronx, NY
    Nov. 13, 2012 4:44 p.m.

    @third try
    did you bother reading his actual comments?Huntsman is not talking about republicans walking away from their values just figuring out how to present the platform that does not feed of the extreme elements of your party. you maybe right he maybe out of step with delegates but lets also remember the delegates have not exactly been so in touch with the larger American population the last few election cycles as evidenced by their nominations failures at the polls.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 2:43 p.m.

    Huntsman should READ the party platform. I think he will find himself out of sync with the party.
    Unless he knows better than the delegates who voted on it.
    But what does he know? He skipped the convention.
    He could do a Rocky and start his own party.

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    Nov. 13, 2012 2:32 p.m.

    Highly unimpressed with his daughters Hack job on the lds on Rock Center.

  • Pragmatic Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 1:53 p.m.

    Why is it only the Utah paper's discuss Huntsman possible future roles as either Secy of State or Secy of Treasurer? The national media never mentions his name as consideration for anything.

  • Palmetto Bug Columbia, SC
    Nov. 13, 2012 1:46 p.m.

    Huntsman is easily my top choice for the next GOP nominee. Does anyone know how to get a job on his staff?

  • jpjazz Sandy, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 1:26 p.m.

    I appreciate the Governor's comments, have to agree with the points raised re immigration and youth appeal. We need to hear more from him on speciifcs with these issues.