BYU football: BYU vs. Idaho from an insider's perspective

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  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Nov. 10, 2012 12:31 p.m.

    Re: Maxiute

    No, the relevant issue is television time slots. Not the start time "where the game is being played." The television time slot for both games is the same, since those time slots are based on EST. 7:30 PST is only 15 minutes different than 8:15 MST.

    But, once again, you may return to ignoring the facts.

  • maxiute Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 10, 2012 8:30 a.m.

    Interesting but flawed reasoning on your part stating that the Utah game this week starts LATER than the BYU game. Surely you must know that the Utah game is being played in the Pacific Time Zone...and that the game has a 7:30 p.m. "local start time." Based on your kind of reasoning we could start talking about start times for your future night games with Hawaii...but no...the relevant issue is the start time where the game is being played.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Nov. 9, 2012 9:14 p.m.

    Excuse me. I misspoke. Actually, the Utah game is scheduled to start 15 minutes LATER than the BYU game. The BYU-Idaho contest is scheduled to start at 10:15 EST, not 10:30.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Nov. 9, 2012 6:00 p.m.

    It is rather hilarious that the Anti-BYU-Utites are mocking the start time of this game against Idaho.

    If you would take a minute and look at the Utah schedule, you would not that the start time for the game against Washington is 10:30 pm EST. Which just so happens to be the exact same time as the BYU-Idaho game.

    Now that we have presented the facts, you may go back to ignoring them.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Nov. 9, 2012 4:33 p.m.

    Ha Ha!

    Duckhunter is defending BYUs alleged decision to drop LT.
    Meanwhile teams are backing out, and will continue to do so of agreements with BYU.
    How's that one and done working for you?


  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Nov. 9, 2012 4:30 p.m.

    Down under said:

    "PAC 10.2 schools love having Utah in the conference, it helps pad their win totals. If it were not for Utah some of the other PAC schools would not be bowling. That one extra win make a big difference. That is why BYU is not in the PAC, they would make some of the schools bowl ineligble."

    Why do you think BYU has a WAC legacy? Its the only way the can have a 10 win season.
    Ooops! not this season.
    And based upon BYUs futile attempt at future scheduling, what makes you think they will be bowl eligible anyway?

  • Proud Ute ,
    Nov. 9, 2012 4:26 p.m.


    Highland, UT

    Utah fans are just getting their last schedule digs.....

    Oh no don't worry, we'll be laughing at all the Happy Valley Hypocrites next year too.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 3:28 p.m.


    Thank you--I'm not only a fan, but a graduate of Weber State University!

    You are a certain type of BYU fan--really nothing more needs to be said.

    I can't post the link saying the game was SUSPENDED, but here are quotes from LA Tech's website:

    "No one is more disappointed than Bruce and I that BYU won't be visiting Ruston in 2011," Dykes said. "However, with prior home and away scheduling agreements which we need to honor in 2012 the BYU game placed us in a position of playing one too many away games in 2012."

    "We are in talks about future dates with BYU," Van De Velde added.

    Bottom line--BYU could have switched home games from year-to-year with them easily as an independent, or dropped Idaho off the schedule to make it work, but LA Tech's performance against TCU in the Poinsettia Bowl in 2011 had the Cougar camp running for toilet paper. No LOL, just sad, very sad.

    By the way, how is Jimmer doing compared to Lillard in the NBA?

    BYU Independence--Is this independent scheduling something that you do to make yourself feel better as a BYU fan?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 2:35 p.m.


    You are a weber state fan. Really nothing more needs to be said.

    As far as BYU dropping LT, it didn't happen. LT wanted out because they were trying to ease up their schedule. Failure on your part at trying to spin it otherwise and LOL at #utesnation for deciding to hop on that embarrassing attempt along with you.

  • #utesnation Centerville, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 1:42 p.m.

    @ down under

    yes that is why you were not invited to the PAC.. because you are too good... have fun playing that high school team from idaho

    3 peat/ 8 of 11 that is all that's needed to be said

    Good question my friend, why would the cougies drop LA Tech?

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 12:58 p.m.


    I saw Weber State once on BYUtv and once on Root Sports, not bad for an FCS team. I bet if they talked with ESPN, they could get a tv deal if they rolled back their start times to 3 a.m.

    BYU Independence--prime-time viewing for vampires, owls, and zombies.

    Future opponents:

    Virginia 3-6 (sagrin 92)
    Hawaii 1-7 (167)
    Southern Miss 0-9 (159)
    Houston 4-5 (101)
    Middle Tennessee 6-3 (83)
    UCF 7-2 (45)

    I think this is the old WAC arrangment under a new moniker. Texas and GA Tech come to Provo, but other than that, the big games are all on the road.

    Also, if BYU wanted to play a tough opponent, why did they drop LA Tech (a definite yellow-game) off the schedule this year instead of Idaho or NMSU... anyone? [crickets]

  • IJ Hyrum, Ut
    Nov. 9, 2012 12:10 p.m.

    I find it interesting that there are those who hang the whole meaning to their lives on football. They bash this team or that team because of one sport. I ask you to look at a schools whole sports program and then, if yours is the best, maybe you can sit on the crest of the barn and crow your hearts out.

    Or maybe they crow for the short time they can between September and January.

    Remember the number of conference championships of these two schools when they left the MWC?

  • USNGary South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 10:58 a.m.

    All of you people complaining about the time of the game, being in the snow, against Idaho, I bet there are still more people at that game than the utes stadium even holds.

  • Down under Pullman, WA
    Nov. 9, 2012 10:47 a.m.

    PAC 10.2 schools love having Utah in the conference, it helps pad their win totals. If it were not for Utah some of the other PAC schools would not be bowling. That one extra win make a big difference. That is why BYU is not in the PAC, they would make some of the schools bowl ineligble.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 9:59 a.m.


    I guarantee we go bowling and I'd say a 80% chance we finish 8-5, which is very respectable when you are a member of a prestigous conference.

    There is exactly a 0% chance we won't go bowling

    Utah 34
    Washington 21

    you can mark that one down

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 9:35 a.m.

    utah "fans" are just getting their last schedule digs in since it is all changing next year, as we were told it would. Let them have their fun since it is the only fun they are likely to have for the remainder of this football season. Not going to a bowl game is really humiliating when you were a self proclaimed pac 12 championship and rose bowl contender.


    ps Dnews sensors, yea this is the comment that was off topic and disruptive. Good grief.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Nov. 9, 2012 9:22 a.m.

    @ brenlk "I love watching BYU football, but this season has been a disappointment, and a lot of that blame falls squarely on the shoulders of those in charge of the team's offense." I'm glad that another Cougs fan from outside Happy Valley shares my frustration w/ the Cougs offense and is critical of the coaching. I firmly believe that Doman is already as good as gone after the season. Let him do other things and handle his calling as a bishop. He has failed to deliver on much of what he naively touted 3 seasons ago. But, that's not stop there. I hope it extends to Bronco as well. We need a "head-coach" and not a Defensive Coordinator Extraordinaire. How much time do we read and feel of the passion and commitment coming from any of the offensive players? Defensively, those kids will run through a wall for him. Offensively? Not so. I was a HUGE Bronco supporter. He's done GREAT for the program, but the ol' Peter Principle has arrived. Time to look elsewhere IF the admin. is serious about where they want the program to get to.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 8:36 a.m.

    @ mussingaround, the Utes play conference opponents. BYU as an indie plays whomever they can find. Indepedance helped BYU get a good TV contract (which they could probably carry into a conference), but beyond that, I am not a fan. Don't be so thin-skinned.

  • TheNun Granstville, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 8:18 a.m.


    I laugh at how some people justify their team's schedule by comparing it to their rival's schedule.

    By it's own choice, one team plays weber state, georgia tech, idaho, new mexico state, and san jose state, but then tries to justify this schedule by stating; "ya, but your team played two teams from Colorado".

    Wow, that is really a stretch, even for the most ardent blue fans.

  • shorts Payson, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 7:38 a.m.

    RE: The Deuce - So would staying in the MWC be better? It took two year with the WAC to build a goo schedule. 2013 schedule looks really good with Virginia, Texas, Boise State, Utah State, Georgia Tech, Houston, and Wisconsin and Notre Dame in November. Don't forget LSU and North Carolina also played Idaho this year and Texas A&M and Virgini played them last year.

    RE: it is who is on the schedule. Ask LSU why they played Idaho this year.

    RE:Wildcat I can see my team play on ESPN 10 games this year how did your team do?

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Nov. 9, 2012 7:35 a.m.


    "Why is the mighty BYU program playing Idaho?"

    You must have been living in a cave, totally isolated from the rest of the world for the last 3 years, otherwise you'd already know the answer to your question.

    You might also be wondering why the mighty Utes are starting and ending their season against two Front Range teams from Colorado that aren't good enough to beat Colorado State.

  • Coyoteghost Saint George, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 7:06 a.m.

    It's 1951, my first year at BYU, somebody from an opposing football opponent asks, "What are BYU's chances against our team?" I can faintly hear an answer like, "Well, if we can be competetive for two quarters that would be stupendous". Been there, done that.

  • We wear Blue ogden, ut
    Nov. 9, 2012 6:32 a.m.

    I bet some blogger in Washington is now typing........
    "Huskies have Utah this weekend. Sure glad they let this
    cupcake team in the PAC 12 so we can get some reps for our 2nd string.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 5:22 a.m.

    Why is the mighty BYU program playing Idaho? Snow College too busy? Great schedule.

  • just-a-fan Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 4:16 a.m.

    I look at the BYU season in a different way. It has been pain for sure, but for me the reason is due to the fact that the Cougars lost close games. 7 points total against Utah, Boise and Notre Dame. Even the Oregon State was a great contest until late in the 4th. What does this mean? Perhaps nothing to many people who just see losses as losses. To me, I see a team that was very close to being darn good. But the losses are losses. So I'm not ready to give up the ship although like many fans, I hope to see the team get back to moving the ball again. I have no idea what the right moves are since I am not a football coach nor do I have a football mind. So, my 2 cents. Go Cougars!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 8, 2012 11:18 p.m.

    Ute fans full of envy.

    We play hard teams, and you don't.

    Somehow, I knew this was going to happen when they went to the PAC.

  • WestGranger West Valley City, Utah
    Nov. 8, 2012 8:48 p.m.

    I surely hope BYU can avoid such lousy games in the future. Next week should be a lot better game against San Jose State.

  • Jealous U Alpine, UT
    Nov. 8, 2012 8:26 p.m.

    It's laughable to see how insecure and obsessed our little brothers are for a BYU game against Idaho. An obvious attempt to hide the panic that is starting to set in on the hill that the only bowl the Utes may be headed to is the Couch Potato Bowl.

    Go Cougs!

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Nov. 8, 2012 7:33 p.m.

    I-D-A-H-O, Idaho, Idaho, GO GO GO!

    Idaho and New Mexico State are going independent next year...just like BYU!

    Something for you BYU fans to think about when you are at LES...late at the the game ends near the witching hour.

    BYU Independence--the alternative to late night juicer infomercials.

  • Proud Ute ,
    Nov. 8, 2012 6:31 p.m.

    Just heard two coogs got suspended.
    Anybody know who?
    I guess the staff figured they'd better lay in some ready made excuses in case they stumble in one of these last games.

  • brenlk Richland, WA
    Nov. 8, 2012 5:32 p.m.

    In a sick kind of way, I hope the Cougars lose... this way we are sure to see some changes in the offensive coaching staff when the season is done. I love watching BYU football, but this season has been a disappointment, and a lot of that blame falls squarely on the shoulders of those in charge of the team's offense.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Nov. 8, 2012 5:23 p.m.

    @ YAWN- Yeah. I hear ya; however, the team can't do more than play what's on their schedule. No doubt, this game isn't going to do much of anything for Cougs fans, other than pad some stats. If Lark is not playing the entire 2nd half, this game will be too close! In fact, how about starting Lark on "Senior Day" and have him play a quarter at a time?

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 8, 2012 4:52 p.m.


    Enough Said

  • The Deuce Livermore, CA
    Nov. 8, 2012 4:26 p.m.

    The sad part about this game, is that it is a must win for BYU if they are to have some hope for a bowl game. The next 2 games are really not what BYU should be playing this time of year. This is a time when championships are decided, when key rivalry games are played, and when things count the most. For the Cougars, this is not where they are at in November. Why are they playing this type of game at this time? Please don't tell me it is because of their schedule, as this is what BYU did to themselves. BYU went independent and now this is what they live with. There are actually better high school games.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 8, 2012 4:18 p.m.

    go set in the snow and wind and watch BYU vs Idaho. Sheeez, November football is brutal.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 8, 2012 4:05 p.m.