Utah Utes football notebook: WSU coach Mike Leach has plenty to say after loss to Utah

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  • cedarcityute cedar city, UT
    Nov. 6, 2012 10:17 a.m.

    When a team completely gives up like that, it's probably hard to not score more points. Keep your heads up washington st. You guys have some great years ahead :)

  • Me, Myself and I The Promised Land, UT
    Nov. 6, 2012 9:18 a.m.

    I'll tell you who is truly classless. Fans on both sides who have to trash the other team because "their" team's season hasn't turned out as hoped.

  • War dog Taylorsville, UT
    Nov. 5, 2012 8:14 p.m.

    Why can,t Utah stand on its own merits, no matter what happens, good or bad they still have to look south to support it

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 5, 2012 4:56 p.m.

    The utes were very classy, they didn't try an onside kick when they were ahead 38-0.

  • Mike Johnson Stafford, VA
    Nov. 5, 2012 3:17 p.m.

    Personally, I find it ridiculous that fans of some schools go back to years before any of the current players were born to try to prove their team is better. That actually says a lot about how their current team is not superior.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Nov. 5, 2012 3:08 p.m.

    It is so funny how the southies are so desperate for something to do that they have to pile on over a two-point conversion. This is hilarious. I know you guys are bored - what with your November "bye" and your mighty finishing schedule. If I had that little to lool forward to, I would be trolling other blogs too.

    Go Utes!! Great to be a Ute!! Great to be relevant!!

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Nov. 5, 2012 1:33 p.m.


    Not calling off the dogs soon enough to please the whiners is a little different than running trick plays with the game already in hand.

    LaVell simply had such prolific offenses that it was difficult to keep them from not scoring if BYU did anything except take a knee.

    Kyle seems to run his tricks with games already in hand simply to embarrass his opponents.

    btw, you left a few out:

    BYU 27 Utah 0
    BYU 56 Utah 6
    BYU 56 Utah 28

    Payback for Utah upsetting BYU by a single point in 1978.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Nov. 5, 2012 11:45 a.m.

    @ sammyg

    "U lost to USU, BYU beat USU, and if we want to use Gored's logic in the inverse BYU has not lost as bad to teams that Utah has lost to recently... ND, BSU and so forth."

    I guess in your world head-to-head match ups don't really matter. You would rather compare common opponents that Utah played in 2010 vs. when BYU played them in 2012.... makes alot of sense.

    If you insist on comparing who played better against common opponents THIS YEAR, you can give the advantage to BYU vs. Utah State, but then give the advantage to the UTES vs. Washington St. and Oregon St.

    But we both know the one that really matters in head-to-head, Advantage UTES 24-21

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Nov. 5, 2012 11:05 a.m.


    You are confused over when to talk smack. You're like the football player that beats his chest after a sack yet his team is down something like 54-10.

    24-21, 3 in a row, 8 of 11. When those numbers don't fall in your favor, it's time to give it a rest.

  • AlottaBalatas Centerville, UT
    Nov. 5, 2012 11:04 a.m.

    @ ET (Come Home) Bass, Hooked on Phoenix and Sammy (aka Kenny) G

    Should we talk about class? Our beloved LaVell (and I mean that sincerely) was the worst at running-up the score. These ring a bell . . .

    1979 BYU 59 - New Mexico 7
    BYU 63 – SDSU 14
    1980BYU 83 – UTEP 6
    1981BYU 65 – UTEP 8
    1988BYU 65 – New Mexico 0
    1989BYU 70 – Utah 31 (no complaining here– payback game for ’88)

    C’mon, even the most ardent Utah hater would have to admit there was no mercy when it came to BYU’s opponents. After ’89 I guess LaVell got classier since the scores dropped some . . . and Crowton was really classy . . . Bronco too! BYU has class oozing the past decade.

    Nov. 5, 2012 10:00 a.m.

    Poor little blue martyr cougar fans, taking upon themselves all of the injustices done unto every other team by the big bully Utes. I haven't heard one WSU fan say a thing about the Daffy Duck formation play, only disappointment by the play of their team. Even the coach, the one that it actually affected, has never mentioned it. Here's the real moral of college football: if you don't want someone to gain a free point on you, DON'T GIVE IT TO THEM! If Leach was that worried about it, he would have called a timeout to help his team collect their wits about what they were doing, and we would have just kicked the extra point at that point.

  • cedarcityute cedar city, UT
    Nov. 5, 2012 9:29 a.m.

    What 'bad' teams did Utah lose to? Oregon state, whom also beat BYU? USC? Do tell. Every game we have lost (with the exception of ASU, we did not come to play) was to teams that deserved it and played well. How dare you take that credit away from them, but that does make you a BYU fan.....

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Nov. 5, 2012 7:45 a.m.


    No doubt; amen Bro! Nice win but now time to look at beating Washington. Should be a good game in Seattle.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Nov. 5, 2012 7:06 a.m.

    U 90

    Lest we get confused over the issues...

    U lost to USU, BYU beat USU, and if we want to use Gored's logic in the inverse BYU has not lost as bad to teams that Utah has lost to recently... ND, BSU and so forth.

    Hope that helps.

    And to address the topic of this article... I totally agree with ET Bass and phoenix on this one.

    Utes were 'classless' again on the two point play.

  • sportsfanforlife salt lake city, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 8:08 p.m.


    "If I were in your shoes, I wouldn't be dishing out insults like you do on the rival that so obviously has the upper hand on you. Otherwise, people can't take any of your comments seriously."

    When do they ever??

    Nov. 4, 2012 7:55 p.m.


    Please read U 90's post carefully. He nailed it right on the head. I'll try to make it even plainer: BYU beat WSU 30-6; Utah beat them 49-6, 19 points more. Head-to-head Utah beat BYU again for the 3rd time in a row. That makes 4 out of 5; 8 out of 11; and overall 56-34-4. If I were in your shoes, I wouldn't be dishing out insults like you do on the rival that so obviously has the upper hand on you. Otherwise, people can't take any of your comments seriously.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Nov. 4, 2012 7:15 p.m.


    Yet again you look so foolish. Yes, I'll take the 6th place ribbon, because that's all Utah deserves so far this year. But by using your measuring stick, that would mean BYU should get the 10th or 8th place ribbon in the PAC 12. Is this really how you want to reflect on BYU? With every post that you bash Utah the more it drives home the point that BYU is even worse.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 7:06 p.m.

    Utah does want trophies, and not one for 6th place. Also there is no reason to petition to PAC-12 because Utah can, and will, compete in the PAC-12, even if it does mean suffering through a few frustrating seasons. To be the best you have to play, and beat, the best and I an excited to cheer for my team while they take on this new challenge. I guess that's the difference between you and me though.

    Have fun at the Idaho game btw.

  • camera2head west jordan, utah
    Nov. 4, 2012 3:52 p.m.

    It was 13 seconds into the 3rd quarter. I guess Utah should have went into the victory formation for the whole second half, in fear they may have hurt someones feelings. It's Washington States job or whoever it is to stop them and keep playing. Coach Leach was right they quit!

    Typical attitude of what is wrong with sports today,you guys are probably same people who think your kid deserves an orange slice and a snickers bar after every game. Regardless of the outcome.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 3:32 p.m.


    "This is PAC-12 football, not little league where everyone gets a trophy."

    But you want a trophy, you want recognition, your team is desperate for the attention...

    For all the whining we heard about a 3-way tie for sixth place (actually 8th as for 'real' football stats) the Utes better petition the PAC12 for participation trophies. Something for the trophy case would be nice.

    Better yet how about a 6th place ribbon to staple to all of those PAC12 banners everywhere in SLC. LOL

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 2:10 p.m.

    It's not classless at all. It was at the very start of the third quarter and if you aren't mentally tough enough to stay in the game past halftime you can expect to get blasted off the field. This is PAC-12 football, not little league where everyone gets a trophy.

    Further, Coach Whittingham gave Washington another thing to prepare for this week in practice, which will take time away when they could be preparing for something else. It's all strategy and it was a brilliant move by Utah.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Nov. 4, 2012 10:03 a.m.

    "It might have seemed strange to some when the Utes made a two-point conversion against Washington State while leading 37-0."

    No, Dirk, it wasn't "strange," it was just another example of the classlessness constantly being exhibited on the hill.

    Just because you practice it "every week", doesn't make it any more right than kicking an on-side kick when you're up by 40, "just for the practice".

  • ET Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 4, 2012 7:22 a.m.

    Two point play up 37-0. Totally classless utes.