False expectations add to East Coast disaster angst

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  • Kalindra Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 5, 2012 6:41 a.m.

    So according to about half if the posters on this thread, we should be prepared to put out our own fires, serve as out own emergency medical personnel, and never rely on any government agency for anything because to do so makes us part of the nanny state - even when those government agencies are urging us to prepare for disasters, we shouldn't rely on what they are saying!

    And apparently, the Red Cross is a government agency and we shouldn't rely on or accept help from them either.

    How lonely to live in a world where you can't rely on anyone but yourself. But hopefully your standing on the sidelines berating those whose lives were destroyed is bringing you great comfort - especially when you can throw religion into the mix. Matthew 15:8, isn't it?

  • DonO Draper, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 8:01 a.m.

    It's remarkable...and scary...that "we" have come to depend on government to bail us out of difficulty. Government certainly has a role to play in disaster recovery but can't be expected to do it all, and certainly not on anyone's particular timetable. "We"are sounding more European all the time.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 4, 2012 6:54 a.m.

    lol @ A1994. Well said!

  • Gosh-DUH Burlington, CT
    Nov. 4, 2012 6:19 a.m.

    Tragically storm Sandy destroyed many homes and I feel sorry for those people. It is interesting that people do not adequately prepare, despite all the urgent warnings and the continuous suggestions by the American Red Cross and other agencies that people have at minimum a 3-day supply of food, water, a full tank of gas in your car, and a 72 hour grab and go kits (not a church thing actually). Especially since we in the northeast went through a similar thing just a year ago, although those storms did not cause as much damage. It seems some people never learn the lessons that we are constantly being taught. Here in the east, some folks who were in their homes seemed to be without the basics just a day after the storm. Sad.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Nov. 4, 2012 5:42 a.m.

    The Democrats are to fault for these high expectations because it's exactly what they preached when Katrina hit New Orleans with Bush in office. New Orleans was worse because people refused to heed the warnings to evactuate but none of that seemed to matter, Katrina was the worse politicized natural disaster of our time. Now we have these crazy expectations of disaster relief and response from the Government. Shameful. People now suffer because of false expectations.

  • DVD Taylorsville, 00
    Nov. 4, 2012 5:41 a.m.

    A1994 very droll, lol

    DN Subscriber. Please don't point at the drowned and those that lost their lives, livelihoods and loved ones to fires and flood and laugh at their misfortune.

    Many of the makers became takers when nature took all from them. Even those of us that 'made' much could not have done it without a functioning social system. Even then, we're limited by the limits of the system. Destroying the system also destroys those of us who make things and services happen.

    Again, Please don't point at the drowned and those that lost their lives, livelihoods and loved ones to fires and flood and laugh at them.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 5:25 a.m.

    Learn a lesson. Do not rely on fhe government. Rely on yourself. Follow the prophet and be prepared!

  • Rynn Las Vegas, NV
    Nov. 4, 2012 4:35 a.m.

    Yes there are probably some people did not take the storm seriously and did not prepare ahead of time (to which I'm sure they are definitely learning a very hard lesson).
    But other people did prepare, left their houses with enough supplies but their house was destroyed and perhaps they are running out of supplies?

    The Northeast area is not the Southeast area, they are not accustomed to destructive storms.

    It just seems rude to sit back and criticize a group of people when they are already down.
    But to each his own I guess.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Nov. 3, 2012 11:12 p.m.

    Why didn't Bush do more to prevent this?

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 3, 2012 9:16 p.m.

    The direct result of the liberal "nanny state" and their growing of the dependency class who look to government for their every need, and feel no responsibility for doing anything for themselves.

    We are indeed becoming a divided nation of "makers" and "takers" and we see how the "taker" class reacts when their desires are not instantaneously met. The "makers" are justifiably feeling less generous and less inclined to happily suffer the fruits of their labors being confiscated to support the "takers."

  • Californian#1@94131 San Francisco, CA
    Nov. 3, 2012 9:07 p.m.

    What false expectations?

    Do they mean the expectation that I don't need to prepare or follow the advice of authorities or experts, and can then just sit and wait for Someone (usually the government) to come and fix everything instantly for free? The expectation that I don't need to contribute to the community around me or take any responsibility for my own well-being?

    What is false about that? Millions of people do it year in and year out, disaster or no disaster. For them, the fact that all their needs and wants are not being met immediately after this major catastrophe is a serious disruption of their accustomed routine, and a betrayal of the expectations that have been indoctrinated into them over years and even generations of dependency.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Nov. 3, 2012 8:03 p.m.

    @one old man

    I'm in NYC right now doing recovery work (since my marathon was cancelled) and I can guarantee you - these are not Romney supporters.

  • AZRods Maricopa, AZ
    Nov. 3, 2012 2:52 p.m.

    oldman, I was with you till you turned it into a political bash.
    And I should point out how Obama leads Romney in the areas you are describing suggesting it is
    a very big democrat area.
    And it matches the mentality that many Obama followers have. The president is going to come feed me, fix me and pay my way.
    I can see why many don't like Romney. He would actually expect people to prepare for themselves rather than watch a storm coming from a thousand miles away and not fill up gas tanks, water supply and basic food.
    Hence the nanny state and the greatest nanny president in our history.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Nov. 3, 2012 2:25 p.m.

    It's amazing, isn't it. There were warnings for at least two weeks and so many people did nothing to prepare.

    At least some of those complaining most loudly were some who refused to leave mandatory evacuation zones.

    Now they somehow expect instant help.

    Gee, according to the Republicans, they must all be Democrats. But I'll bet that most are faithful members of the GOP who haven't any common sense of their own. If they were Democrats, they'd have had sense enough to get prepared while the getting was good.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Nov. 3, 2012 1:27 p.m.

    ama is the master majician with sidekick christie. all show no substance. gone to vegas after lame photo opt giving high fives to christie. pathetic