Evangelical vote in battleground states key for Mitt Romney

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  • Joggle Big Island, HI
    Nov. 7, 2012 9:11 p.m.

    History simply does not support the view by Christians that the founding fathers intended to establish this country on "biblical principles" or that we are a Christian nation. In fact, there is little proof to support the claim that the colonial population was overwhelmingly Christian either. Look it up! The primary leaders of the so-called founding fathers of our nation were not Bible-believing Christians; they were deists. Our founding fathers established a religiously neutral (or secular) nation, and a tragedy of our time is that so many people are striving to undo all that was accomplished by the wisdom of the founding fathers who framed for us a constitution that would protect the religious freedom of everyone regardless of personal creed. An even greater tragedy is that they many times many the public is hoodwinked into believing that they are only trying to make our nation what the founding fathers would want it to be. Separation of church and state is what the founding fathers wanted for the nation, and we must never allow anyone to distort history to make it appear otherwise.

  • A Scientist Provo, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 7:45 p.m.

    worf wrote:

    "We are a Christian nation, and neither you or Obama will change that."

    Wanna' bet? Sounds like a challenge filled with hubris. I will gladly take the challenge. This is NOT a "Christian nation" despite your false claims, and you can provide NO evidence to support such a nonsensical assertion!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 4, 2012 7:26 p.m.


    "Religion is poison in politics. It has no place there."

    This country was founded on freedom of religion, "Christianity".

    We are a Christian nation, and neither you or Obama will change that.

  • m.g. scott LAYTON, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 6:56 p.m.

    If all Americans knew the truth about Obama and how bad his leadership is, he'd be behind by 20 points. The only reason the American people are not being informed is because the vast majority of media have as much of a vested interest in Obama winning as Christians have in Jesus. Obama has become the messiah of the left. No one wants to accept that their god is false. That's why the media have completely dropped any pretense of reporting and have become partisan politicians themselves. Sad, change in our 4th estate. The country won't survive if it continues.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 4, 2012 5:44 p.m.

    Giving a half a million dollars for every second in a year, is not enough to pay off our deficit.

    A sixteen trillion dollar national debt is no accident, but planned.

    Once people understand this, it becomes easier to understand our political leaders, and make better choices when voting.

  • New to Utah PAYSON, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 9:58 a.m.

    Truthseeker, I take issue with all your pronouncements they aren't necessarily so. The ridiculous idea that billionaires control the conservative movement is no more compelling that George Soros and Larry Flynt control the Democrats. The unhappy conclusion that somehow all the hypocrites on the right caused you to apostatize from your heritage sounds more like acceptance of the liberal agenda of the California elite. I lived the past 10 years in ultra liberal Oregon so I'm not speaking as some right winger but I do feel that Mitt Romney is addressing the issues and Obama is name calling,using negative ads to smear both Ryan and Romney because he has nothing to run on.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 12:28 a.m.

    Evangelicals and Tea-Party goers normally below to the Republican or Conservative voting block, whether in the south or north, east or west.

    President Obama doesn't have any of those types of beliefs nor practices whether in politics, economics, religious beliefs or other points of views that are of interest to evangelicals or tea-party members.

    It doesn't seem like it would be a hard decision to make. Our country was based and founded on moral principles that still are part of our initial documents that guided our citizens to form our nation with God's compass and light.

    This is an extraordinary country that has been like no other of this type, ever. We are a country of law and order. People can feel secure in almost every way possible, financially, security, and safe. We have fought to help others develop those same types of philosophies in their government. We have shown by example of the several centuries that we have been a country.

    Veterans' day is after the election to remember veterans and their sacrifice for our country over those centuries. We still have active duty civilians and military members in harm's way. Vote.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Nov. 3, 2012 10:50 p.m.

    "No one sane disputes the fact that the base of the base of the Republican Party -- post Roe V Wade and with a big "assist" from my late Religious Right leader father Francis Schaeffer and me (before I changed my mind) -- is evangelical voters. No one sane disputes the fact that the Republican Party is funded these days mainly by a handful of billionaires with a vested interest in seeing that government does their economic will. No one sane disputes the fact that this attempt to work the billionaires' economic will has little-to-nothing to do with the core "family values" and "pro-life" issues that motivate the vast swath of Right wing-leaning evangelical voters. And no one sane disputes the fact that in the old days voters disagreed over policy but mostly agreed on basic facts from which policy would be derived."

    (Frank Schaeffer, son of Francis Schaeffer, considered to be a founder of the Christian Right)

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Nov. 3, 2012 1:46 p.m.

    @semper fi

    "...Bring on the religious diatribe...".

    This article is compiled by a DN employee named Eric Schulzke.

    The religious diatribe is brought to you by a Republican Newspaper as well as a Republican employee.

    Nov. 3, 2012 11:57 a.m.

    @ Jaytee:

    My good person you have spoken the truth and thats why there's is no way i will every vote for Romney. And yes i know that he is not the incumbent.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Nov. 3, 2012 10:04 a.m.

    Religion is poison in politics. It has no place there.

  • JayTee Sandy, UT
    Nov. 3, 2012 8:16 a.m.

    People with ethics, morals, and values need to stick together. Big government won't replace anything good, let alone character and freedom. It's hard to believe that anyone with any understand of the nature of man would cling to an incumbent who has spent four years providing nothing positive for the country or the world. A real leader is more than speeches. A real leader knows and cares. A real leader works hard for positive change based on genuine values. Being on vacation, giving speeches, and declaring personal brilliance are not enough. Hopefully, there are still enough American voters who understand these things.

  • Stay the Course Salt Lake City, utah
    Nov. 3, 2012 7:57 a.m.

    Your hearing needs checked Romney will easily defeat Obama in Utah with around 70% of the vote

  • New to Utah PAYSON, UT
    Nov. 3, 2012 5:38 a.m.

    Just listened to the closing arguments of both candidates.Obama continues to support public sector unions, government regulators,the war on coal, natural gas and oil. He has no budget, no plan to reign in the 16 trillion debt. Romney wants to unleash our energy production, reign in public sector unions,do something about the 16 trillion deficit and save medicare and social security.

  • Emajor Ogden, UT
    Nov. 2, 2012 11:22 p.m.

    BYU Alum,
    If KJB1 needs to get his glasses fixed, then you need to get your expectations fixed. Your zealous support of Romney is a little frightening to me, and your laundry list of hopes! and dreams! comes off as juvenile and naive. Ever seen a presidential campaign before? Ever compare the promises made on the campaign trail to the reality that sets in once that president has to deal with the real world and Congress?

    "Mitt Romney is the man!" That made me smile. Like a schoolgirl's crush, it's just so cute and innocent.

    And by the way, that "we" you keep referring to only includes about 50% of the country. The other 50% will disagree with you.

  • Emajor Ogden, UT
    Nov. 2, 2012 11:15 p.m.

    Social Mod Fiscal Con,

    Romney wasn't prepared or qualified 4 years ago, and the last 4 years has proven that while he has principles, they bear no resemblance to the principles and platforms he held 4 years ago. Or even 4 months ago.

  • Social Mod Fiscal Con West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 2, 2012 10:00 p.m.

    Obama wasn't prepared or qualified 4 years ago, and the last 4 years has proven that while he has principles, they are the wrong ones for this country.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 2, 2012 9:05 p.m.

    KBJ1: You need to get your glasses fixed.

    Mitt Romney is the man! And Romney/Ryan will bring back needed leadership different from this failing administration, i.e. spending, deficit, unemployment, Libya coverup, expensive vacations, etc. We need to restore jobs and this country's honor, good name, integrity, and credit rating. We need to repeal Obamacare. We need to get back to upholding the Constitution and stop the overreach of this president's 900 Executive Orders. We are tired of hearing Obams's rhetoric and seeing photo ops every single day of the last four years in continual campaign mode. We are SO ready for new leadership in this country! We are ready for a president who actually stays in the Oval Office and governs. That new leadership, that new president is Mitt Romney!

    Romney-Ryan 2012!

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Nov. 2, 2012 7:23 p.m.


    What kind of god do you believe in?

  • KJB1 Eugene, OR
    Nov. 2, 2012 6:42 p.m.

    Please!! Stop all the bashing and name calling! I am so sick of it.

    The most prepared, qualified, and principled candidate is Barack Obama. I have already voted for him and proudly so. God bless America!

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 2, 2012 6:23 p.m.

    Please!! Stop all the bashing and name calling! I am so sick of it.

    The most prepared, qualified, and principled candidate is Mitt Romney. I have already voted for him and proudly so. God bless America!

  • merich39 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 2, 2012 5:49 p.m.

    Wasn't just a few short months ago that the evangelicals were saying Mitt Romney was the absolute worst possible candidate for POTUS? I'm sure those were their exact words. So now, all those evangelicals will be forced to vote for Mitt not as the candidate they really want, but just as the lessor of two evils. Mitt will likely get something nearing 50% of the popular vote. But of those, there will be tens of millions who will have held their nose before voting for Mitt Romney. To those evangelicals, Mitt is not a good candidate. He's just the least bad candidate.

    Remember that come election day. Those voting for President Obama really do support Obama. Tens of millions who will vote for Mitt Romney are only voting for the R and really wish it could be any other R besides Mitt.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Nov. 2, 2012 4:09 p.m.

    Politics sure makes for strange bed fellows. By their definition, Evangelicals would be voting to put a non-Christan in office. Guess that's what you would call an Oxy-Mormon.

  • AZRods Maricopa, AZ
    Nov. 2, 2012 3:01 p.m.

    minyMITE, I'd love to hear your source for knowing that most Mormons are leaning toward Obama.
    Never mind the fact that Obama approves of abortion and same sex marriage.
    justaround, so you hate that religion plays a role in the elections?
    Perhaps atheism would be acceptable?
    Or what if race played a part in this or the previous presidential election, would that bother you?
    So we can safely say that we don't like the influence of others who vote contrary to how we vote if they are influenced by something we disagree with.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Nov. 2, 2012 2:30 p.m.

    It will be interesting to see how many Evangelicals just won't pull the lever for Romney and vote for a third party candidate. Virgil Goode is on the ballot in Virginia and is polling more than just a sprinkling of votes there. He could be the Ralph Nader of 2012.

  • TOO Sanpete, UT
    Nov. 2, 2012 2:23 p.m.


    That's possibly on my top 5 list of dumbest things I've ever heard.

  • Semper Fi Bakersfield, CA
    Nov. 2, 2012 2:13 p.m.

    People of religion can vote solely for religious reasons, that's the beauty of a democracy. So enjoy your non-religious reasons, while I enjoy my skewed theological ones:

    A registered Independent, I will be voting for Romney. Then I can have a more ethical president, a fiscal conservative, and I can shine the light on all things Mormon for the next 4-8 years. As Biblical purists and evangelical Christians, we all know that Mormonism is polytheistic and polygamous. This will be a dream come true for this 7th generation pioneer heritage ex-Mormon. Love my family, but not the hodge-podge reversals and 19th century theology.

    This is gonna be great!! Bring on the religious diatribe.

  • Crusader Layton, UT
    Nov. 2, 2012 1:49 p.m.

    Perhaps Sandy was a miracle. God could not stand seeing Romney ahead in the polls so he sent a storm so that our President could show how he stands up during a crisis.

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    Nov. 2, 2012 1:38 p.m.

    Mr. Land, ever heard of 3 branches of government? For 30 years now the "Evangelical" voter put foreign policy ahead of simple gospel doctrine of faith; no need to dwell on Armageddon and end-of-the-world scenarios. Religion is more important than politics. God loves Russia too.

  • justaroundthecorner DRAPER, UT
    Nov. 2, 2012 1:35 p.m.

    Its to bad that religion is trying to push the election ! I think the world is alot better with OBAMA. Mitt Romney is not in touch with middle class. Doesnt matter in Utah as the Democrat vote doesnt matter in a electorial college vote for republicans. But hopefully he will move some of those offshore accounts to the USA and stay in America if he wins.

  • mightymite DRAPER, UT
    Nov. 2, 2012 1:03 p.m.

    Sure but the mormon vote will put him over the top.. but I am hearing that the vast majority of mormon are still undecided on Romney leaning toward Obama.