It is too bad that so many people measure success only by wins or losses.Every
coach makes mistakes as do players which may account for a loss.--- There are a
lot of coaches who would be glad to have the record of Bronco. However no one
mentions the development of character and responsibility, living and promoting
the standards of the church, putting other pursuits ahead of football.We have
too many people who think they know so much about football but are only good at
tearing down some one else if they don't do what they feel they ought to
do.I love to see see them win every game but know that isn't possible.Keep
in mind the call for Bronc's head is coming from a very small group whose qualifications to judge are a little suspect.
How people forget: Gary Crowton was amazing in year 1 when he had Doman and
Staley. Next year and the year after, he got progressively worse. His play
calling was predictable and confused. At Oregon, same pattern. Good first year,
then down hill from there. Same with his next job. Same with the Chicago
Bears.Basically, his offense was based on trick plays and was not
solid. Once the trick plays were exposed, BYU's offense ground to a halt.
Every time. Too bad.
Best D EVER! Long live Bronco!
Rose did not go though this torture that Crowton was put into when Rose's
player, Davies, violated the honor code. Neither did Bronco have to suffer
through that pain when Unga violated the honor code. I have always
felt that had Crowton not won that game at Cal, he would go down as one of our
greatest coaches, leaving LE still at #1.Crowton went on to be the
National #1 Asst Coach while at Oregon as the OC. He went from there to be the
OC for then defending national champions, LSU. We, in my opinion, was unjust to
Crowton and we are paying for it now.
" Six players from the 2004 recruiting class had become embroiled in honor
code and legal issues, and BYU had suffered three consecutive losing seasons,
resulting in Gary Crowton's resignation." My, how time and
people like to rewrite history. I was at the Notre Dame game in Provo,
when it was announced that Gary Crowton was fired by the same AD at BYU that was
embarrassed by Crowton's win over Cal at Cal by more than 30 points while
our current AD director was HC at Cal.We won that ND game in Provo.Gary Crowton was a great coach until the said 3 athletes, late in the
night, off campus, in one of the boys own home, was involved in a bad honor code
violation. After that, all of Crowton's time and energy had to shift from
coaching to defending himself as though it was his fault that the violators did
violate the honor code. This caused the 3 losing seasons to follow.
Who am I sir?Get over your small-minded jealousy!The
only reason Bronco isn't coaching his 100th game THIS WEEK, is because BYU
has a bye.Bronco will be coaching his 100th game the next time BYU
plays.I seriously doubt Jeff wrote his article in response to
Dirk's article.btw, unlike Utah fans and Kyle, at least BYU
fans don't have to worry about Bronco losing to the Idaho's and
Colorado's of the college football world.
Look at where Coach KW started and where Coach BM started. The Utes were coming
off of one of the best seasons they ever had. The Cougs - not so much. KW took
over a championship team - BM - not so much. I believe Bronco has done a
magnificent job with what he was handed. I have watched BYU football almost
from the beginning of the Lavell era and there never was a defense like this
one. Give him some time and the offense will catch up to speed and BYU football
will be better than it has ever been. This year's version could very well
be 8 - 1 right now. A little tweecking and we will be good to go. Go Cougars!
No fan, I don't think, can honestly say this program is not in a better
place now than it was when Bronco took over the program. That said, that is not
enough. If this team could 1) figure out how to be productive offensively, 2)
manage the game better, and 3) get up for the big games better, could be 8-1 or,
possibly, undefeated. Unfortunately, those are all weaknesses of Broncos. He
does not win the big ones and that is what BYU fans are crying out for.Against BCS Opponents: 12-14 Against Ranked Opponents
(ranked at kickoff): 4-13 Against Ranked Opponents (ranked at
year's end): 2-12 (likely 2-15 at this year's end) One the Road: 25-18Just not good enough.
LOL!An article about Coach Whit coaching his 100th game this
Saturday is understandable. So what does the Deseret News do to promote BYU
relevence? Post an article the same day about Coach Bronco coaching a game
"closing in" on 100. Can't wait to read of each count down game!
Better yet, I can't wait to read how the Deseret News tries to make the
November schedule of BYU relevant! Now there's a challenge!Do
I hear Idaho game tickets for $5? On the 40 yard line!
"There's no doubt that Mendenhall has BYU's program in a much
better place than when he became the head coach in December 2004." I agree
that Coach Bronco has greatly stabilized the program. However, I also believe
that he has done as much for this program as he can. He's provided
TREMENDOUS direction & leadership ... up to the last 3 years. I don't
think he's the coach to get the Cougs to the next level of national
respectability that Holmoe, et. al. talk about. He is a great coach in a
mid-major conference like the MWC and has dominated teams from weaker
conferences (thank you WAC for agreeing to play our Cougs so often!). But Holmoe
has said repeatedly they want to consistently compete with the "big
boys." Realistic or not, that's what he has said, not me. Mendenall is
not the coach to get them there. Many Cougs fans point to how unique and special
BYU is, and my children have done there so I get that. I realize
"blue-chip" recruits are rare due to the honor code and other reasons,
but the AD wants the program to move upward.
Bronco improved the program tremendously from the Crowton years. Here's
hoping he learns from this year's mistakes and seeks the best and the
brightest for assistant coaches. LaVell did that.
TheNunWhere or who are those "14 million prospective recruits" for
BYU? They sure ain't Mormons because most church members are female and
most of the males are high priests.
How can rafinsure make the statement byu is "limited" in its ability to
recruit. Name another school that lays claim to a built-in talent pool of over
14 million prospective recruits.Even Notre Dame can not make that
claim, as there are many, many other catholic schools in place, and the talent
pool byu has has a staunchness like no other affiliated school can duplicate.
Listen guys, as horrible as this whole Riley Nelson debacle has been, Bronco is
a great coach and he is a guy who gets the most out of what he has. Bronco
Mendenhall is also a guy who holds players accountable in terms of the honor
code, academics, and so on. The worst thing that could happen to BYU football is
for another coach like Gary Crowton to take the reigns when Bronco is done. With
all of that, BYU is STILL winning almost 10 games a season. You also have to
remember guys, Like it or not guys, we will likely never have the same
recruiting advantages as programs like Texas, USC, Florida, Notre Dame, Ohio
State, and so on (and neither will Utah). So when you consider the talent level
BYU has in comparison, Bronco Mendenhall has done some pretty amazing things.
It's just a really ugly situation that we ended up with a fullback as our
quarterback who's starting because he tries hard and has good character.
Let's just wait until we get a decent quarterback as it has taken a while
for Bronco to recruit defensive talent as well. Things will work out.
SoonerUteI wouldn't pay too much attention to the constant
whining of BYU "fans" like chubbuckidahocougfan.The truth
is, Bronco's record at 100 games compares very favorably with LaVell's
100 game mark.Overall RecordLaVell 69-30-1Bronco
72-28Bowl WinsLaVell 0 of 4Bronco 5 of 7Top
25 FinishesLaVell 2 (20/16, 13/12)Bronco 5 (16/15, 14/15, 25/21,
12/12, ur/25)Conference ChampionshipsLaVell 5Bronco 210-plus Win SeasonsLaVell 1Bronco 5Of course,
midway through the 1980 season, LaVell had built the BYU program from scratch,
Jim McMahon was having a record-breaking season, BYU's QB factory was in
full production, and the Cougars were just getting started on the greatest
period in BYU history culminating in a national championship four years later.
rafinsureBYU's supposed "lack of talent" played 3
nationally ranked teams tough, and were one or two plays, or one or two poor
coaching decisions, away from winning 2 of the games. BYU has been a top 25
program for 40 years.The honor code isn't a limitation, it is a
preference. There isn't an inverse correlation between honor code
compatibility and athletic talent, and it is silly and baseless to say there is.
Many great BYU athletes have been non-Mormons. Ty Detmer, Marc Wilson, Tom
Holmoe, Clay Brown just off the top of my head, and that doesn't include
Jim McMahon who isn't exactly honor code compliant, but who, nevertheless,
married an LDS BYU coed. In basketball, Kresmir Cosic, the greatest BYU player
ever, comes to mind.Good and/or experienced coordinators hard to
come by? They ran Norm Chow and Robert Anae out of town. While I had some
problems with Anae, most of his shortcomings could've been overcome by a
head coach who understood and took responsibility for the over all program, not
just the defense and firesides.You are right, however, that BYU
needs some kind of home.
SoonerUteBecause some folks just can't see the bigger picture.
"Just win, baby!" just doesn't work at BYU. Cling to the
standards, and if you "win the WAC championship", keep trying for better
competition. If the ranked teams on your schedule knock you down, get back up.
But don't lose sight of the mission.Now losing three in a row
to Utah? Well, that is thin ice, I can't debate that. But otherwise, you
take it all. And be grateful.
I don't understand Cougar fans wanting to get rid of Bronco Mendenhall.
He's brought you a wicked tough defense. Worst case, you "demote"
him from head coach to defensive coach (he'd probably prefer that). But
get rid of him altogether? Why start from scratch?
Balancing the need to win with the school's honor code and the missionaries
coming and going in and out of the program makes Bronco's job perhaps the
most difficult job in all of college football. He has many admirers and only a
few detractors. He has done a magnificent job!
The reality is that both teams are where they're supposed to be at this
time due to their increase in level of competition and their recruiting
limitations, and Coach Mendenhall is doing the best he can with what he can get.
BYU will always be a mid-major because its recruiting base is very narrow due to
the university's honor code. It will get a blue chip player on occasion and
perhaps have a break out season once every decade, but this is how it's
going to be. Coach Mendenhall does need to make improvements to the team's
offensive coaching staff, but this will prove difficult because good and
experienced offensive coordinators who are willing to live according to
BYU's honor code are hard to come by. Also, BYU needs to join the Big East
to make scheduling easier. If Notre Dame had to make an arrangement with the ACC
for five games, BYU needs to do something similar.
Bronco is our man!!
Here's to hoping Bronco doesn't get to coach a hundred more games.
Hoping for a change in 2013.