Dick Harmon: Frustrated BYU, Utah? They are not alone

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  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Oct. 25, 2012 7:01 p.m.

    Calling Doman a "Crowton era QB" isn't exactly accurate, considering he was recruited by Lavell Edwards and only played his senior year under Crowton.

    I would give you the name of a real Crowton era player, but I think they all got kicked out of school. *joke*

  • spiderweb Clearfield, UT
    Oct. 25, 2012 5:01 p.m.

    Both Utah and BYU have talent galore to be the teams they both once were. The problem I see is both teams pathetic offenses which points to the offensive coordinator. Utah keeps changing them like yesterdays shirt,,,while BYU took a system that had success by the pass, and thought to change it to an option...In Doman's case, with pocket passers on the team,,,he messed with something not broken trying to fix it-and now it is completely broken and out of sync. But hey, what could you ever expect from a Crowton Era QB?

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Oct. 25, 2012 2:48 p.m.

    I am frustrated with how our team is doing, but I don't want to hear that other teams are frustrated too to make me feel better. I want my team to start doing better!


    I agree with most of your points, but I disagree on the 2-pt attempt. One reason is that the offense had momentum at the time (no guarantee they would have it in overtime), and that play was blown by horrible execution by the offensive line.v The second reason is that our kicking game was very suspect at the time and we probably had a better chance to get more points on the board by going for 2.


    BYU has competed very well in each of their loses and has yet to be blown out (the Oregon State game went out of reach at the very end, but that was because Riley decided to "give liberally" to OSU). If we had a better QB and a better O-line (or a healthy OL) BYU could very well be undefeated.

  • ATiredDude Sandy, UT
    Oct. 25, 2012 2:13 p.m.

    @flatlander: Welcome to the Big 10 :)

  • flatlander Omaha, NE
    Oct. 25, 2012 11:51 a.m.

    I am missing something in the rational here. If the point is to have high rankings in the stats dept then why not just play WAC teams. Who really cares what percentile the O or D is in if you can only beat really bad teams. Both the Y and the U wanted to play with the big boys and losing is what happens when you do. Fans and coaches are delusional,if they thought the two teams could just step up and win against these teams week in and week out. The Y got to ease in as they had to work into a tougher schedule over years and the U had to jump right in but both will have 5-6 losses a year going forward.

  • oddman ,
    Oct. 25, 2012 9:49 a.m.

    Let it go! Football is entertainment, not life. Although across the sea, I have listened to every ball game and hated losing but realize that it is just a game and mitigating factors have destroyed game plans, expectations, cohesion but so what? I go to work Monday just as happy as if we were undefeated. Go Cougars, Coach Mendenhall et al.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 25, 2012 8:27 a.m.


    LOL! Clever!

  • J-TX Allen, TX
    Oct. 25, 2012 8:05 a.m.

    As Huey Lewis said, "Sometimes Bad is Bad."

  • Parkite1 Park City, UT
    Oct. 25, 2012 6:54 a.m.

    Yeah but Dick how many have a coach that went for two instead of tieing and letting the defense control things? How many have a coach that didnt prepare his team for the noise at Rice-Eccles thereby contributing to the terrible snap/fumble? How many have a coach that failed to call a time-out when he saw his QB in the wrong position for a victory stance, end result allowing the QB to have a season-ending injury. How many have a coach that won't put in back-ups when players aren't at their best? How many have a coach that puts in unhealthy QBs and end result two losses. How many have a coach who in his eighth year has shown poor decision making and mediocrity but somehow fools the AD and fans to allow him to continue to coach?

  • ATiredDude Sandy, UT
    Oct. 24, 2012 7:33 p.m.

    TCU has no room to be frustrated. 5-2 in a new, tougher conference? They should be doing cartwheels. I'm crying crocodile tears for TCU.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 24, 2012 6:45 p.m.

    What happened to Auburn?

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 24, 2012 5:02 p.m.

    Local sportwriters and radio jockeys are in a bigger panic than the fans are.