Mia Love, Rep. Jim Matheson duel over special ed money accusations

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  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 30, 2012 10:13 a.m.

    Penguin, these are both fine real Americans. However, there is a line in the sand for those in the 4th District and that is do they want one more vote for the Democrats, which will not help Utah. We are a red state and our representatives will hopefully be for Utahns. Pelosi and Reid are not for Utah values. They showed their real inner selves during the Obamacare debacle. You can't say you represent our values when they subverted the Constitutional and legislative process by passing the vote and then reading the legislation.

    Matheson didn't show his leadership, which he could have, in that whole process. You can't serve two masters or three masters or 4 masters. He went over that line and I don't believe Utahns should forget that. He could have been like his statesman father but he gave in to the Washington crowd and the President's pushing for His Law, Obamacare, no matter what it costs.

    The costs in this case is a reputation and also the budget line which was exceeded in all costs. Integrity is important and politicians, unfortunately have seen that integrity gets sacrificed, which costs, maybe forever, ever.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 25, 2012 6:29 p.m.

    Ms. Love has not figured out that there are consequences for ones statements. She has adopted all the tea party talking points without giving any thought to what implementing them would actually mean. It really isn't very complicated, if you do away with the Department of Education to save money, then you do away with special ed funding. Rather than being able to respond intelligently what does she do. she attacks Matheson. She is in over her head in this job, she doesn't understand the issues. This has been a pattern any time policy discussions come up, she can't answer, so she attacks. We need people who understand the issues in Washington and Ms Love is not ready for prime time.

  • Penguin Inc. Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 25, 2012 1:21 p.m.

    These are two fine Americans. It's a shame we can't elect them both! They could tag-team the problems in our community and get delicious earmarks from Washington!

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 25, 2012 1:10 p.m.

    The poof of Matheson's sentiment of Utah is in his support of President Obama, Vice President Biden, Majority Leader Harry Reid and of course his leader in the House, Nancy Pelosi. He sold us out a long time ago.

    You knew what he was when Utahans elected him. He has had a good ride but it is now time for him to depart for his Washington friends who can't vote for him in Utah.

    Maybe he can get an appointment from Obama prior to the end of January and be an ambassador to some special place, maybe Marin county California.

  • all hands on deck Sandy, UT
    Oct. 25, 2012 12:14 p.m.

    We need to take care of the poor. However, we don't need the federal government to run our lives. Matheson is not as conservative as he would like us to believe. Where is he on state's rights vs. federal rights. He is very much on the federal side. He likes the feds solving everything. As another example, the national right to life committee rates Matheson at 28% of their positions while Chaffetz, Bishop, Hatch and Lee all receive a 100% ranking based on their voting record in 2011.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 25, 2012 9:17 a.m.

    Representative Matheson has not had this type of opponent and appears to be running scared. His PAC uses this type of advertising for a purpose, to put fear and trepidation in his constituents.

    She knows cuts have to be made and getting rid of the Department of Education would not be the end of the world. The United States of America got good education prior to this department being established. States, even though not all in agreement, had people graduate from high school and go to other forms of education prior to this department being established. The same types of problems still exist with this overseeing of big brother. The agency has plenty of high paid people giving high paid grants to people that don't necessarily have an accountability factor. Changes of administration come and the agency still hasn't gotten done what they proposed.

    This administration hasn't done any better with the Secretary of Education, President Obama's basketball playing friend, in charge. No Child Left Behind is still there and states are always being threatened if they don't succeed. It goes to the definition of is and that isn't defined, yet.

    Matheson is scared.

  • Hellooo Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 25, 2012 1:23 a.m.

    Matheson knows this is the lowest level of politics to scare mothers about their children. . Mr. Matheson has now demonstrated he is just another pandering politician with no idea how to lead, be fiscally responsible and no campaign other than to throw mud at his opponent. Time to vote for Mia Love as the first representative of Utah's 4th Congressional District.

  • metisophia Ogden, UT
    Oct. 24, 2012 8:47 p.m.

    Does Mia Love not understand the full ramifications of her proposals? We don't need another blind representative. Vote Matheson!

  • Utah Observer West Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 24, 2012 8:22 p.m.

    In order to win GOP delegate support to receive the 4th District nomination, Mia Love said some things using Tea Party rhetoric to show she was even more conservative than her opponents. Now that talk is coming back in a negative way and Matheson is smart to show the difference. She seems to be backtracking from earlier statements. So who do we believe, Mia Love before the GOP convention or after?

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Oct. 24, 2012 3:05 p.m.

    What's sad is that Mia is acting like mitt, and just claiming that's not what I meant when I said exactly that on camera?

    Pathetic victim thing you republicans got going, Oh we're picked on because you caught us lying.

    Much like the Mia ads claiming matheson got outside funding when nearly all her funding is coming from outside pacs?

  • non believer PARK CITY, UT
    Oct. 24, 2012 2:57 p.m.

    Love put out a fairly specific proposal to cut federal spending that included eliminating all federal education subsidies. A more detailed proposal by The Cato Institute, on which Love’s plan was based, specifically called for eliminating special education funds.

    So I do not see where Matheson was wrong in his statement? Mia makes a proposal, yet is angry when it is used against her? What a hypocrite!

  • AlanSutton Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 24, 2012 2:41 p.m.

    This allegation makes Rep. Matheson look desperate. Using small children as props to distort his opponent's words.

  • Simple Man Riverton, UT
    Oct. 24, 2012 2:14 p.m.

    This issue highlights the Federal versus State debate. The States, for the most part, must be fiscally responsible; i.e. no deficit spending.

    The Federal government has no such restrictions and everyone has this insatiable appetite for the Fed's "free" money.

    The Federal leaders, trying to buy votes, threaten the sick, the children and the elderly with poverty and lack of care against anyone trying to be fiscally responsible.

    Instead, our leaders need to grow up and learn to prioritize, rather than buying votes with my, my kids', and my grandkids' money that the Federal government will someday come looking to collect (either through increased taxes, or collapsed economy)

    It's such a cop-out to say vote for me or we won't fund (read deficit spend) needed priority programs.