Utah Utes football: Utes' make cringing mistakes, fall to OSU 21-7

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    Oct. 23, 2012 12:23 a.m.

    Duckhunter, once again, please direct me to your source of saying that Pac-12 officials are required to officiate both home and away out of conference games. I already have given you an instance where it isn't true, and haven't seen an example that it is.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Oct. 22, 2012 8:18 p.m.


    The pac 12 also insists their own refs officiate all pac 12 home games. So if they insist they officiate all home games as well as all out of conference games on the road that is pretty much all of them. Despite your limp defense the pac 12's officials are widely known as the worst in college football as well as it is widely publicized and criticized that they have a policy of insisting their officials work all OOC road games as well as all OOC home games.

    Oct. 22, 2012 6:34 p.m.

    The Pac-12 does not insist on every game being officiated by Pac-12 referees. They officiate out of conference games when a Pac-12 team is on the road because that is how all conferences work. In the Utah-BYU game, Big XII officials were used and they were equally as awful as any Pac-12 crew I've ever seen.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Oct. 22, 2012 3:56 p.m.

    Well I'm going to agree with worf that pac 12 officials are terrible, they are the worst in all of college football, and I also agree that the pac 12 obviously seeks to gain an advantage by insisting their own refs work every game involving a pac 12 team. But this game didn't appear to be officiated down to their usual low standards. They did an ok job for once.

  • Qwest Perfected Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 22, 2012 11:22 a.m.

    No Utah fan would say that the officiating was the reason Utah lost this game. It was the dropped balls and the other mistakes made by the upper classmen on the team.

    DeVonte didn't help out the team or freshmen QB Wilson one bit by both tipping a ball up in the air that was intercepted and dropping a pitch that hit him in the hands within the 5 yard line. Not to mention John White dropping a ball that hit him in the hands as well with nobody around him on a 3rd down and long play. Oh and a field gold kicker that for some reason can't make a field goal to save his life this year.

    One call that was made that had a huge impact on the game was when Blechen lowered his helmet right into the receivers face mask - it was an obivious penalty and a huge mistake by Brian.

    The Utes had plenty of opportunities to win this game but they made way too many mistakes to get it done.

    They are improving however, so hopefully they can turn it around.

    Go Utes!

    Oct. 22, 2012 7:54 a.m.

    worf, Utah penalties in the 1st quarter: defensive offsides on a 1st and 10 (kinda hard to argue those), personal foul on PAT (assessed on kickoff, which was a touchback, so really had no bearing on the game, and OSU committed the same penalty in the same situation in the 2nd quarter, so hard to say they weren't calling it both ways).

    Going into the second quarter: 11 yard pass defensive pass interference on 1st and 10 (a good call with no bearing on game, as Utah stopped them 3 plays later).

    Third quarter: NO Utah penalties, however, a pass interference call that OSU fans and players didn't like that gave Utah 1st and goal at the 3 to tie the game.

    4th quarter: another personal foul on a PAT with no bearing on the game, personal foul (can't lower your helmet to make a tackle, very clear rule these days in football), ineligible receiver downfield for the flanker receiver lining up on the line of scrimmage. Really, can you argue any of these calls, or say now that it's obvious the refs were giving the game away, or did you actually watch the game?

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 21, 2012 11:23 p.m.


    Look at the calls going against the utes in the first quarter with screaming fans. Just a theory, but you don't want to reduce the number of ranked teams in the conference as there is money to be made. I didn't see the BYU game with OSU, but I'll bet there's calls against the cougs at a time momentum was developing. PAC 12 doesn't want another Oklahoma situation either, so they'll be honest with the Stanford game.---Just opinion.

    Oct. 21, 2012 2:33 p.m.

    worf, you obviously didn't watch the game or you just like to make up your own telling of it. Officiating was actually accurate for once, I admit rare in many Pac-12 games, but ranking had nothing to do with it. Utah had tons of chances and blew them themselves. If what you're saying was the case, then the Pac-12 refs wouldn't have made the questionable call to end the Stanford-ND game, or the questionable pass interference call with Utah on the verge of making the top 25 against Utah State.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 21, 2012 1:10 p.m.

    As I predicted. A loud crowd, and bias pac 12 refs making calls in just one direction, will prevent momentum, and increase the chance of turn overs. A ranked team, will increase end of the year bowl revenue, so the utes become the punching bag. Penalties even out later in the game.

    I've seen this before, and knew it as coming.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 21, 2012 12:57 p.m.

    Not even close Eddie.

    Utah is dealing with some growing pains right now, but it is completely asinine to think they will end up in the Big Sky.

    On the contrary, there were a lot of positives to take away from this game despite the loss. Hopefully Utah is able to turn the corner next week.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 21, 2012 12:53 p.m.

    The mute button has been turned on. ute button?

  • Carson Provo, UT
    Oct. 21, 2012 12:52 p.m.

    We still own your team Ducky LOL

    Oct. 21, 2012 11:24 a.m.

    Duckhunter, I never proclaimed them as such, but likewise, what happened to your "3rd team freshman all-american who is on his way to the NFL" receiver? Haven't seen anything from him all season.

  • Eddie Syracuse, UT
    Oct. 21, 2012 9:54 a.m.

    The Utes lost to a very good team, but they continue to lose in a conference they don't belong in. Bottom feeders as long as the BCS is alive and then they will sink into Div III play. Hey, they be able to beat LDS Business College!

    It won't be long until the Utes will be playing Northern Colorado every year because they will be in the same conference.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Oct. 21, 2012 9:06 a.m.


    So what happened to "the best group of wr's in the pac12"?

    Oct. 21, 2012 12:10 a.m.

    I know it was raining, but the pass catching was just awful. Travis played a pretty darn good game executing the plays that were called, but the same can't be said for the receivers. Credit a great team in OSU, but I'd rather lose to a great team knowing Utah did just about everything they could have to win the game. If they had done that, they'd have won tonight, but they didn't, not even close.