UCLA professor touts benefits of affirmative action at NAACP event

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  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 21, 2012 7:36 a.m.

    Reality conscious,
    Why do you insult the capabilities and intelligence of women and minorities by saying they are incapable of competing without lower standards and system-generated advantages?

    None of the comments above said it was just aimed at African-Americans. Why the false accusation?

    I have no problem with providing equal opportunities for promotion, salary advancement, school admissions, scholarships and financial aid to all, regardless of race or gender. Not only do I have no problem with it, I strongly support it. What Affirmative Action does is provide preferential treatment based on race and/or gender. That is discriminatory and the reality of the situation.

  • Reality conscious Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 20, 2012 10:31 p.m.

    These are literally ironic comments. It is clear that Affirmative Action to you is unwarranted. Students applying to these institutions are very qualified and prepared themselves to gain an education. Focusing on education and jobs, affirmative action policies required that active measures be taken to ensure that Blacks and other minorities enjoyed the same opportunities for promotions, salary increases, career advancement, school admissions, scholarships, and financial aid that had been the nearly exclusive province of Whites.

    Affirmative action helps many women, American Indians, and other historically disenfranchised communities. It is not only for Black's as some may want others to believe. It is a known fact that White women are the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action. Referred to as White privileged and yes the color of their skin for men and woman? There are numerous cases shown where White men and women with less education than a Black received a better and higher paid job. Not based on education at all but because they were White. White’s are not losing much of any privileges. It is not true that Utah government hiring rules prohibit any race or gender preference. A white receives preferential treatment.

    Stop your complaining.

  • cns St George, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2012 8:28 p.m.

    Saying you are for affirmative action is meaningless without providing some boundaries as to how far it is to be pushed -- up to and including hard quotas ?? The devil is in the details.
    Most affirmative action programs used by universities seem to have a potential for resulting in discrimination against non-minorities or non-favored minorities.
    To paraphrase Chief Justice Roberts -- The best way to avoid racial discrimination is to not practice racial discrimination.

    By the way -- the notion that the military and universities are non-political is laughable

  • carman Wasatch Front, UT
    Oct. 20, 2012 9:57 a.m.

    The ivory tower crowd regularly performs extraordinary mental gymnastics to justify the absurd. Yes, while there are benefits to diversity brought by lowering standards, but there are also costs. (e.g. We lose the benefit of having better prepared students in the classroom. Also, we put incentives in place that may encourage favored demographics to not work/prepare as hard for school because they SEE that the bar is lower, etc.)

    Mr. UCLA professor: Have you considered that instead of lower the bar and discriminating against another demographic cohort, that maybe, just maybe, we could focus on solving the problem of some demographics actually being better prepared for post-secondary education? It is stunningly easy to see the real answer to the problem. Instead of affirmative action (a.k.a. discrimination), how about helping disadvantaged demographics see what it will take to be prepared for college, and then focus efforts on making it happen?

    And yes, there is a lot that government and community can to to help solve the problem. But these folks have to step up to the plate as well.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 20, 2012 8:16 a.m.

    This guy would rather judge by the color of the skin than the content of the character because of some ancillary benefit.

    Just because there is some minor benefit from it does NOT justify a great injustice. After all, Mussolini got the trains to run on time.