Utah football notes: Utes expected better things this season

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  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Oct. 18, 2012 8:51 p.m.


    I share your frustration, but pulling the plug on Johnson now seems a bit shortsighted. I like the fact that Whit is going back to the spread... the offense that Urban implemented at the U which produced some excellent offensive numbers. Since 2009 Whit has slowly moved away from the spread due to his loyalty to Wynn who couldn't run the spread to save his life. Now it appears that we are recruiting QBs that can run the spread including Wilson. I think we may finally have the talent at QB in 2013 which we have been lacking for so long. I also believe the O-line will develop nicely throughout the remainder of this season. Once we get the passing game going a bit more it should open up things for the run game. The real puzzling thing for me is how poorly our linebackers have played. The group Whit started the year with was inexperienced and slow. The group of LBs we had during the Sugar bowl was much more athletic (Sylvester, Gaison & Wright). I hope to see more athleticism with Hooker and Hale getting more time at the LB position.

    Oct. 18, 2012 6:38 p.m.

    R.A.W, there are four consistent senior starters on offense in White, Brenner, Stevens and Christopher, with Mason, Rolf and Matthews occasionally getting starters minutes depending on matchups and seemingly how Mason practices during the week. So obviously those 3 positions don't seem as crucial as far as production goes to replace, while the other four are solid guys, but the team is deep enough at receiver with a lot more talented WRs coming in, and I expect York to take over the RB position. Stevens and Brenner are the most solid linemen and will be the toughest to replace.

    But onto your question. I expect Whit to bring in someone more experienced with a spread passing game to help BJ mold the offense into how he envisions it working, possibly recommending Roderick for a promotion elsewhere and replacing him as the WRs coach.

  • R.A.W St George, Utah
    Oct. 18, 2012 4:39 p.m.

    Serious Question for Utah fans...
    Right now Utah's offense is nationally ranked #91 in passing ypg, #116 in rushing ypg, and #99 in scoring offense. From the way things are looking right now, you have 4 more losses on your schedule. OSU, Cal, UW, and Arizona. WSU, and Colorado are kind of toss up games, but I do give Utah the edge.
    So my question is, if Utah finishes the season 4-8 or 5-7 will Whit replace BJ as the offensive Coordinator? Or what adjustments do you see him making so it doesn't repeat in 2013? Keep in mind there are 7 senior starters on the offense right now.

    I would love to have some decent, intelligent discussions on these boards... What say you?

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Oct. 18, 2012 8:45 a.m.

    Chris B

    "I hate losing now, but give it 2 more years and we'll be fighting USC and Orgeon for the Rose Bowl!"

    LOL at the arrogance.

    Unfortunately for U, this represents the most delusional expectation of the kids on the hill - they still think they're in the MWC, and the only teams they have to get up for and beat to secure the conference championship are BYU and TCU.

    Sorry to burst your delusional crimson bubble Chris B, but U also have to beat teams like Oregon State, Stanford, Washington, California, Arizona State, and UCLA, teams that can and do produce Top 10, Rose Bowl caliber teams, while not forgetting teams like Arizona, Colorado, and Washington State, teams that are fully capable of knocking off the Utes even when they're suffering through one of the worst seasons in the country - see Colorado last year.

    Even a very good Utah team could easily finish in the middle of the PAC, and mediocre Utah teams are destined for bottom dweller status.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Oct. 18, 2012 6:44 a.m.

    Is the AZ 30 year drought an example of... 'occasional era' or 'for a while'?

    Sigh, it's another long Ute season... the gift that keeps on givin' until Christmas and then some.

  • indycrimson Franklin, IN
    Oct. 18, 2012 2:03 a.m.

    Great Post DNSmith...that recruiting dilemma is like an 18 year old trying to establish credit!

    You gotta have it to get it! Utah needs to be consistently good as we have been to garner great recruits AND have great bench depth.

    We are not there yet on the depth side. I think Whit has been great for Utah so far and would bet cash he can step up to the next level...no better time than now!

  • Stay the Course Salt Lake City, utah
    Oct. 18, 2012 12:13 a.m.

    So Chris has predicted 27 points for the utes OSU beat BYU 42-24 I predict an OSU victory 72-27 mark it down

  • dnsmith Salt Lake CIty, ut
    Oct. 17, 2012 9:40 p.m.

    What I think all the naysayers are all missing is that in a power conference teams swing back and forth with occasional eras in which teams break out as perennial contenders. Every team gets their shot. AZ and ASU have not been enjoying national success for a while and recruiting was down, FOR PAC standards. They still consistently out recruit mid majors. ASU gets a new coaches and boom instant difference and contention for conf. title. Next year if they perform as strongly they could get into legitimate NC talk. That's a power conf privilege. The downside is you can also get beat any week by any team if you so much as blink in your focus. Utah is getting better recruits and going through growing pains. They used to get away with dumb mistakes and still win not so anymore. We will fix that and things will gel. Whitt and co did drop the ball on recruiting but whitt has shown that even with mid major talent he can win against anyone even SEC power Bama during one of their BEST years. Now with better talent good things are coming.
    GO UTES through good and bad!!

  • kitsutsuki South Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 17, 2012 7:02 p.m.

    To expect much more than what they are experiencing is nothing short of ignorance and arrogance on the part of Utah players, administration and fans.

    Utah has been with the "big boys" how long now? Yep, second year. Arizona and ASU have been in the PAC10 / PAC12 how long now? Yep, 35 years or so. And combined ASU / Arizona have been to the Rose Bowl how many times? Correct me if I am wrong, but I think once. And Utah expects to do what???

    For Utah to expect anymore than what they are getting is laughable. Unfortunately, I could write the exact same thing about BYU and their quest for independence.

    Welcome to your new reality. You got what you asked for.

  • Just Wondering... Gilbert, AZ
    Oct. 17, 2012 5:24 p.m.

    ...why Chris B is always living in the past? 2008 was a long time ago...Ute fans have a right to and should be disappointed. BUT! This should have been predictable.

    If the Utes make a bowl game this year, then I will never post on a Utah article again...I will be posting on Utah articles for generations to come!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 17, 2012 4:50 p.m.

    No coach that takes his team to a #2 ranking, undefeated season, win over Alabama, BCS win does so on flukes.

    Whittinham is legit. Our program is legit.

    Yes, its been a rude welcome to the Pac 12, but in the end this is a GOOD thing. Whit knows what needs to be done to take our team to the top of the Pac 12 and I'm totally confident he's doing it.

    I hate losing now, but give it 2 more years and we'll be fighting USC and Orgeon for the Rose Bowl!

    Yes, you can mark that down!

    Utah 27
    OSU 21

  • WakeUpNowFR SLC, UT
    Oct. 17, 2012 4:28 p.m.

    Better pack your suspenders Utah fans this one is going to be tough

  • indycrimson Franklin, IN
    Oct. 17, 2012 4:11 p.m.

    Love the Utes!

    Whit needs to prove that he is a PAC 12 coach! Recruiting, X&O, and alternative game plan!

    Programs can lose players and not skip a beat...Good teams don't!! Injuries are a common theme in major conferences...

    This season has really sucked!!