With Utah's 'house in order,' Salt Lake is the 9th best economy

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  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Oct. 17, 2012 6:03 a.m.

    House in order is an overstatement. If an 11 year growth of 2.5% is something to be proud of then we are dumber than they think. That growth was all government spending growth, not economic growth.

    How can Utah say it is in growth when our legislators and governor has to promise new business that he will use tax funds to subsidizes low wages. Wages so far below poverty the business can send their employees to the state for welfare, food stamps, and rent subsidies to pay their labor costs?

    Utah politician may brag about job growth but they fail to mention to the national study groups that taxes are being used to fund and create this fake growth. So the growth is in government spending and debt, not the economy or income growth.

    Utah education is dead last, it you listen to the politicians and board of education wanting to tax us more to increase corruption. Utah education is only good if they have to prove to the federal government our schools are obeying their rules to keep their money.

  • DVD Taylorsville, 00
    Oct. 16, 2012 8:59 p.m.

    It is very good to have a business friendly system that helps create jobs. However, worker rights also need to be respected (as in human rights). Don't "oppress the hireling in his wages" as the scripture might say. It's still enough of a poor economy that those being abused by employers will still endure it to avoid having to go out on the job hunt again. State regulations need need to both address this issue, and be enforced.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 4:00 p.m.

    @brave sir robin
    while I am not trying to say LDS lib is right your claim goes a little to far the other way. Our test scores where slightly above the national average for several years but have recently slipped to just below the national average. I agree that more money may not be the answer but lets not pretend we could not be doing a much better job educating our children

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 3:49 p.m.

    leave it to LDS lib to try to rain on the parade

    It must be tiring being so bitter all the time

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Oct. 16, 2012 1:34 p.m.

    @LDS Liberal

    Our education system ISN'T dead last. Actually our ACT scores, high school graduation rates, and college admission rates are near the top nationally.

    Where we're dead last is in per-pupil spending. However, spending hardly correlates at all to academic success. Academic success is much better correlated to parental involvement and expectations, and fortunately Utah is quite good at that.

    How does this relate to Utah's economy? Well, tax breaks and cheap land aren't the only reasons companies want to relocate here. Another big driver is that we have a neverending supply of skilled, well-educated, hard-working, and honest workers coming out of our schools.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 12:00 p.m.

    "So then,

    Why is our Education System dead last?"

    Because it isn't - although selective presentation of facts will provide whatever answer you want to rationalize.

    Yes Utah is last in spending per pupil - because there are a LOT of pupils because Utah has the youngest population in the US (put the same percentage of kids in New Jersey schools and see how they fare). Conversely Utah spends a high percentage of its budget on education.

    Moreover money does not inherently translate into quality
    Utah is one of only 7 states that have graduation rates over 90%

    Which is probably why Salt Lake's economy is doing well

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 11:16 a.m.

    So then,

    Why is our Education System dead last?