BYU football: Cougars fall apart at end, lose to Oregon State 42-24

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  • Proud Ute ,
    Oct. 16, 2012 3:57 p.m.

    Spokane Ute,
    You noticed that too. Interesting, very similar posts and styles and getting that way more and more as the season wears on.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Oct. 16, 2012 8:44 a.m.

    @ Sammy G,

    Of Course not; you comments pretty much I.D. who you are. As far as my team "sucking wind right now", both Utah and BYU are; don't kid your self. I guess the saving grace is we BEAT BYU on the field. Check Mate; but keep spinning it.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 7:54 p.m.

    Poor Jealous Spokane Ute

    I'm not worried about anything at BYU. BYU will either win or they will lose, nothing I say or do will change that.

    Go Cougars! Does that change your opinion of me?

    Didn't think so, nor do I care.

    Your team is really bad, and seeing you cuddle up to BYU fans by saying how BOTH teams are bad is really quite amusing. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    Let's get this straight. Your team is really sucking wind right now and appears to have given up. It appears many of the Ute fans have by the scarcity of comments, both positive Ute ones and negative ones on BYU stories. That's quite touching.

    BYU still has some fire left in them along with some offense and good defense, they put points up against OSU, something that will be as rare as snow in Las Vegas when the Utes play them next week.

    Utes are a train wreck, maybe that's why it's so interesting to watch.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Oct. 15, 2012 11:10 a.m.

    Too funny, Sammy G is worried about what Oregon St is going to do to Utah. Mean while, BYU is going to get absolutely throttled by Notre Dame. May want to worry about your own team, if you actually even support a team.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Oct. 14, 2012 9:11 p.m.

    I didn't get to go to the game as I was in Las Vegas for a wedding, fortunately it was on ABC so I got to watch it. I was disappointed with the result of course but OSU is a top 10 team. Mistakes are BYU's downfall in each of their losses, this one was no exception. I hate to say it but truly good teams do not make those sorts of mistakes. I guess we'll just have to wait for next Saturday and hope they can play at South Bend without making those stupid mistakes.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Oct. 14, 2012 3:49 p.m.


    I bear no excuses for BYU's loss to OSU. OSU played and they won the game. BYU lost... big deal.

    I can't wait to see what OSU will do to the Utes this coming weekend.

    Lots of dead silence and long drawn faces on the kids and fans from the trailer park on 'the hill' that was expecting Star, John, and Jordan to carry them to Pasadena.

  • Dennis Harwich, MA
    Oct. 14, 2012 7:04 a.m.

    Losing by 18 is not a "real fight". For the life of me I don't know how anyone can be impressed with any facet of the BYU program. No running game, no passing game, corners have speed but don't know how to cover. etc. etc. There's always next year.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Oct. 13, 2012 11:38 p.m.

    I'm afraid when it's all said and done OSU goes 4-5 in the PAC-12. The Beavers are better but still not a PAC-12 elite. I think BYU is the largest margin of victory for the Beavers which doesn't say much for BYU since the Cougs played at home. The Utes and the Cougs continue to disappoint. Their OC's don't seem ready for the prime time. Their defenses are solid but not as great as advertised. Bottom line the Cougs gave up 35 points with their defense (offense gave up 7). This is the first really good offense BYU played, and they were even minus their QB, and in the end the Cougs didn't deliver. The front seven is good but the DB's look like they do most years, a bit slow against elite talent.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Oct. 13, 2012 9:59 p.m.

    I liked the black uniforms

  • Frozen Chosen Savage, MN
    Oct. 13, 2012 9:45 p.m.

    BYU got out coached, plain and simple. OSU's offensive coordinator did a better job than Bronco.

    Nelson again proved he is not a D-1 QB. He simply can't beat the good teams. I bet Apo is getting tired of trying to scoop his low passes off the turf. If you can't complete a simple wing pass you do not have a D-1 arm.

    The problem that BYU has is there are very, very few college football coaches with a temple recommend. I'm not sure who they would replace Bronco with.

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Oct. 13, 2012 9:23 p.m.

    Springville, UT

    I'm pretty confident that OSU will administer the Utes fourth in a row PAC12 beat down next week.


    I'm pretty confident you will find every excuse in the book to use as BYU loses games.

  • Jake2010 bountiful, ut
    Oct. 13, 2012 9:14 p.m.

    55 minutes the Cougars played competitively with the #10 team in the nation. Yes, it was just 'oregon state' but that team is ranked #10 for a reason. You fans calling for coaches heads after a loss to a team that will probably be taking a jump to #7 need to reevaluate your line of thinking. The only loss this season to date or forthcoming within the next 7 days of despicable nature was Utah. Losers of 4 straight and after suffering the same fate in Corvalis will have lost 5 straight. Yes, perhaps a better qb or coach might be an answer, but not considering the stellar defensive play until the pick 6 which put it out of reach after failing to tie it up at 28. Take this loss like men and quit your grade school whining!

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Oct. 13, 2012 8:41 p.m.


    And I didn't think you cared. This 'stars' chestbeating stuff is a Ute thing every year. I just like reminding you Utesies.

    So your feeble attempt to throw the 'star ratings' as a dig against BYU is pretty weak today.

    BYU held their own until the 4th quarter even with the challenges Riley brings with him as QB.

    BYU put real offensive points on the board today against a #10 team and your Utes??? 7 lousy points.

    I'm pretty confident that OSU will administer the Utes fourth in a row PAC12 beat down next week.

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    Oct. 13, 2012 8:14 p.m.

    Game plan was better from Doman today. Still way too many "option plays" again. This isn't Skyline High Brandon. Poor throws from Nelson led to points for OSU. For the first time this season, we see the defense give up several big plays on the ground and through the air. Not too many bad penalties today either.

  • mightymite DRAPER, UT
    Oct. 13, 2012 7:50 p.m.

    3 int's. common let's get a qb in there... there is a real possibility this team may not be bowl elgible.

  • Pa. Reader Harrisburg, PA
    Oct. 13, 2012 7:45 p.m.

    Andy Reid has an agent.
    Let's hope Tom Holmoe is now planting a seed with that agent that could sprout at the end of the season should Coach Reid want a fresh start away from the NFL pressure cooker.
    The current experiment of hiring inexperienced, unqualified coaches has run its course.
    Things will continue to go downhill from here as additional frustrated players transfer to other schools and recruits cross the Y off their lists.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 13, 2012 7:28 p.m.

    Are you kidding me! Hard to beat 11 Ducks and 8 more refs. Must be Pac 11 refs.

  • Elcapitan Ivins, UT
    Oct. 13, 2012 7:19 p.m.

    We were the underlings both BYU and Utah. I watched the Y game. We were out quarterbacked and out coached. OSU looked like a better team for four quarters as the Y continued to play catch up.We ran aground in the fourth quarter.

  • WhatsUpDoc Draper, UT
    Oct. 13, 2012 7:17 p.m.


    They won't go with a passing game because Coach Doman is an option guy. That's what he did in high school and what he did in college. He does't understand the vertical passing game. Plus, while Riley Nelson plays with heart, he's reckless and has a poor arm. The offensive line can't block either. Oregon State's offensive line was superior and so was their defensive line. The game starts in the trenches. It's a typical Coach Mendenhall team. Beat the lousy teams, competitive with the mid-level teams, lose to the good teams. BYU continues to waste good receiving talent. It's clear Nelson doesn't see the field well because most of his targets go to Hoffman. Hoffman is a terrific receiver and has earned the targets but spreading it around would make a big difference. Hopefully the team can get to six wins and at least qualify for a post season game.

  • Troy06 OREM, UT
    Oct. 13, 2012 6:46 p.m.

    Good bye Doman. Not so nice knowing you.


  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 13, 2012 6:32 p.m.

    sammyg, Springville, UT said
    "If there is one thing that can be learned from this beat down it is this...
    4 - 5 star recruits > 2-3 star recruits."

    For once, I agree with you sammyg

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 13, 2012 6:30 p.m.

    Blame it on Max Hall. Black out?

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Oct. 13, 2012 6:23 p.m.

    Oh well, Cougars did OK for 3 quarters and then blew it in the fourth. Was glad to see some variety in the play calling.

    Defense allowing the deep balls was unexpected and cost a lot of yards.

    Got to hand it to OSU and their new QB. For his first game he did well. It will be interesting to see how they do against the Utes next week.

    Hope the Cougars do better next week. Can't afford to fall apart like this at the end.

  • JDL Magna, UT
    Oct. 13, 2012 6:17 p.m.


    With all due respect, I disagree. The Defense played well enough to give BYU the win against a very good & fast OSU offense.

    In my opinion the problem is squarely on Riley Nelson and the 3 pics and terrible throws all day. He missed to many screen passes to count and under threw his receivers to many times. He had 23 missed passes. If he cleans that up by 10 even catchable passes BYU has a very good chance to win.

    He made a terrible decision to force the interception in the first half rather than throwing it away which likely cost BYU a score. The pic six was totally on Riley Nelson as it was a short pass and that it was bobbled is moot. More catchable pass = no interception.

    Fun 3 1/2 quarters to watch and I lived the uniforms, especially Ziggy's with trashed shoulders.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Oct. 13, 2012 6:02 p.m.

    I think the Cougars can hold their heads high after today's loss. OSU is for real and BYU gave them a real fight. The offense finally showed some fight and the defense played better than the stats and final score indicate. No amazing bowl this year but the teams is making progress.

  • Kiboo South Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 13, 2012 6:01 p.m.

    Three reasons we lost: 1) no pass rush; 2) atrocious pass interference penalty on 2nd & 16. Players have got to be smarter than that; 3) in spite of the good things Riley did, you can always count of 2 to 3 major mistakes. This game was no exception.

  • BYUfaninWashSt Everett, WA
    Oct. 13, 2012 5:50 p.m.

    Coaches should start thinking about using practice sessions to develop a passing game. Worked for OSU.

  • Jonathan Eddy Payson, UT
    Oct. 13, 2012 5:44 p.m.

    Lark please.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Oct. 13, 2012 5:43 p.m.

    Fans will blame Nelson for this loss, but the game really was lost before those last 2 interceptions. I think you have to put this loss on the defense. BYU's pass defense, especially against the long ball, was severely exposed. Vaz (OSU's qb) is an unbelievable passer. He is the kind of passer that BYU used to have.

    I think the play calling was better. Note to Doman: the play action WORKS. We need to use that a little more to get the pass downfield. Shovel pass also very effective. Nelson, although not awful, still makes poor decisions on occasion. The turnovers could have been worse.

    Bottom line--OSU is a better team. To beat them we have to be at least even on the turnovers and we can't have stupid major penalties. We were far from accomplishing either. If we can take care of those 2 things we may have won this game, despite our poor play from the defense.

  • Dr Rush Saint George, UT
    Oct. 13, 2012 5:40 p.m.

    How many loses do you have to witness before you finally start looking at the reason for the losses, Mendenhall and his skateboarder QB, until those 2 things change look for the losses to keep piling up, you know the definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over and expecting different results, ok, lets hear the excuses.

  • satch Highland, UT
    Oct. 13, 2012 5:34 p.m.

    Please give Lark a shot. I am not saying he is the answer, but even with Reilly's having a decent game he still had three picks. In addition, did you see some of the almost turnovers? Those type of bonehead plays some might call playing with guts, but others think its just stupid. These plays continue to happen game after game.

    The year is a wash already.

    Lark has deserved this shot. Maybe Doman doesn't remember how he got his start?

  • Ironmomo Ogden, Utah
    Oct. 13, 2012 5:30 p.m.

    Thought the Cougars might pull it out down 4 points with a few minutes to go. Tough loss.