Nine states launch religious freedom caucuses

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  • the truth Holladay, UT
    Oct. 10, 2012 8:34 p.m.


    Elder Dallin H. Oaks has not taken anyone's choice away.

    Describing what choices are wrong, bad, evil wicked, or are good and righteous is his Job as an Apostle [prophet seer and revelator].

    I am sure you have the same problem with a other Prophets and Apostles, especially of the bible, for telling you who and what is sinful.

    But that is their Job,

    and yet NONE of them ever took anyone's choice away.

    IN our system, Choices and freedom and liberty are taken away (or protected) by political bodies.

    Of which you have voice, however in our system who ever can persuade the majority of the law makers wins.

    But good news, you can live where the lawmakers share your values and views,

    and so can everyone else.

    Unless that freedom is taken away, which the left seems to want to do, forcing everyone to live by their views and values, no matter where they live.

  • Way of the Warrior ANACORTES, WA
    Oct. 10, 2012 8:01 p.m.

    The people who can't be bothered to show tolerance toward those different from themselves are now demanding tolerance for themselves. Have we forgotten the Golden Rule?

  • Lagomorph Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 10, 2012 2:32 p.m.

    I welcome the evangelicals rising to the legal defense of the Unitarians and others who want to solemnize same-sex weddings.

    Interestingly, in two different Arkansas state legislative races, candidates (one an incumbent, the other a former incumbent) are getting noticed for their religious views. One has written that parents should be able to kill their unruly children. The other defends slavery as sanctioned by God (and considers Lincoln a Marxist). Both cite the Bible to justify their positions. How would these religious beliefs fare amongst the religious freedom caucuses? Should they both be allowed to freely practice their beliefs?

    Obviously, the freedom to practice religion needs to be tempered with other considerations. The current kerfuffle is clearly a selective response to the contraceptive mandates in the AFA. Where were these people when Jews and Muslims were compelled through taxation to subsidize swine production?

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Oct. 10, 2012 12:18 p.m.


    Views that families are come in several shapes, sizes and containers. The views that the US Constitution guarantees us all equal treatment by our government. The views that women are capable of making their own choices for their bodies and do not need dodgy old men making their decisions for them.

    Those are a few of the differing views.

  • Shimlau SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Oct. 10, 2012 11:23 a.m.

    RanchHand; What other views?

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Oct. 10, 2012 10:43 a.m.


    Religious freedom means that ALL religions enjoy freedom, not just yours.

    Dallin Oaks is intolerant of other views. What a surprise.

  • firstamendment Lehi, UT
    Oct. 10, 2012 9:55 a.m.

    Religious freedom is crucial for the survival of America. Yesterday Fox showed Paul Ryan talking about how jobs, education and religious faith can help inner city kids better than government. The Journalist tried to filter that out and put words in his mouth. From my experience there are two groups actively promoting intolerance towards religion, seeking to control religious expression, and suppressing free speech for certain religious persons. These two groups are Liberal extremes, and at least one of them has way too much control over media (read “Crafting Gay Children” by Dr. Reisman) and in the White House. President Obama promised not to take a “dime from special interests” but one of these groups is probably the biggest single donor to his campaign and he complies with their wishes.
    The fact that Elder Oaks’ calls for tolerance and freedom from intimidation got him voted “worst person” by the Liberal SLTribune sent a message to me. The extreme left apologizes to terrorists for free speech, employs comment activists and others to attack Christians (especially Mormon Christians) and defenders of the First Amendment are “worst person.”
    Sad....and alarming.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Oct. 10, 2012 8:52 a.m.

    Tolerance is like many other things. If you want to receive it, be willing to give it.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Oct. 10, 2012 8:34 a.m.

    Be careful what you wish for.

    Religious Freedom entails much more than simply the right to worship.

    Same-sex marriage could be viewed as a "religious freedom" issue as there are many sects and religious groups that believe it is okay and will perform them.

    Abortion could be viewed as a "religious freedom" issue as there are many religious who believe that a woman should have the right to choose how her body is used.

    Contraception could be viewed as a "religious freedom" issue as there are many people who believe that their contraceptive choices shouldn't be infringed upon by religious nuts.

    So, be careful what you wish for.