BYU football: Taysom Hill out 4-6 months with LCL injury (+ video)

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  • Dr Rush Saint George, UT
    Oct. 9, 2012 7:49 p.m.

    I guess every QB on the roster has to get hurt for James Lark to be given a chance, what in the world has that kid done for him to be treated like that? He's the only true pocket passer on the team and with the receivers they have it should be a great fit, Perhaps karma will win out and they will be forced to play James.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Oct. 9, 2012 4:58 p.m.

    As far as BYU QB situation goes, I have to Hill get hurt on such a meaningless play. Hopefully Nelson is healthy enough to play. Who would have thought that Utah State would have the best QB? Mr. Chucky Keaton.....and it's not even close.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Oct. 9, 2012 4:20 p.m.

    Ducky said:

    "Compared to utah BYU has made all of the right moves."
    Hmmm; then how in the world did they lose to them? LOL!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Oct. 9, 2012 3:40 p.m.


    I can't ever remember directing a comment at you, my post was addressed to yankees27. Are you telling us that both screen names are yours and you are one of the utah "fans", like chris b, that posts here under multiple screen names?

    That said yankees27 just this week whined about BYU posters on utah articles, you can go over to the articles about utah's curb stomping from usc and find them. I have no idea if joseywales has ever whined but then of course I never said joseywales did.

  • dustman Nampa, ID
    Oct. 9, 2012 2:34 p.m.

    Is Lark that bad? or is the system so geared toward running the QB that Lark can't do it? I mean we got plenty of RB's.

  • 86&90UTE Holladay, UT
    Oct. 9, 2012 1:45 p.m.

    I feel sorry for Hill and hope he makes a complete recovery. I am also interested to see what Doman does with the offense this week. He is gun shy about running Nelson, so Nelson will pass, pass, pass.............which he can't really do all that well. If the QB draw is out, maybe Lark should play??

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Oct. 9, 2012 9:32 a.m.

    "We needed cleaner communication on our part and it's not (Hill's) fault."

    Ya think?

  • dustman Nampa, ID
    Oct. 9, 2012 9:26 a.m.

    Running QB's get hurt. OC's that keep making their QB's run are not very bright. Nelson got hurt, now Hill is hurt. What's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Doman, step aside. It's not quitting if its the right thing to do.

  • joseywales Park City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2012 9:19 a.m.

    Daffy Duck- I don't care if you are the #1 comment poster on Ute articles, I've never "whined" about Y fans posting. You have me mistaken with someone else. Your bad. Anyway, you are right though about the QB situation at the U. It's appalling that a program entering into a new conference and one that had the 1st pick in the draft hasn't been able to recruit better QB's. Just because someone comes from high school as a QB doesn't mean they would be a college level QB, but it's true that a few have been switched. It has worked at their new position, but left gaps at QB.It would be the #1 thing I would think needs addressed as far as recruiting goes. But I stand by my statement above, I actually wasn't mocking the Y as much as you think. I was seriously stating that I would be very concerned to make a commitment to the Y as a QB in their current situation. Most of you Y guys have been saying it all year, Doman must go, and maybe even Bronco?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Oct. 9, 2012 8:35 a.m.


    You whine about BYU fans posting on utah articles and yet here you are.

    That said, as bad as Doman and Mendenhall have botched the management of BYU's qb's what has been done with the management of the qb's at utah is so far worse that it is laughable. At least BYU has recruited and signed several top qb recruits. They can actually go through several of them and still have some very talented guys waiting to play. Ay utah they didn't recruit a good one for about 5 years, the few they did recruit they moved to defense and left themselves with nothing but a bad qb who was coming off shoulder surgery last year. They had to scamble to get a d2 kid from a program that collapsed. They then tried to use that same injury prone kid and he went down in the 2nd game leaving them with the d2 kid again. They signed 2 qb's this year one of which had a well known existing shoulder injury that required surgery and put him out for the year. Compared to utah BYU has made all of the right moves.


  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Oct. 9, 2012 7:16 a.m.

    We've been patient with Doman for a year and a half. This call was the capstone of an OC who has lead BYU's most anemic offense for 19 games. Sure, there were games where looked great on offense, but those were against teams ranked in the lower quartile of FBS. Running a Freshman QB nearly 20 times a game is a recipe for disaster. I could see calling Taysom's number 4 or 5 times a game, and throw in a couple of other runs when a play breaks down. But he is being asked to run the ball 2 - 3 times more than he should.

    With the defense we have, we should be knocking on the door of a Top 10 ranking this year. Utah and Boise State should have been easy wins this year instead of embarassing losses.

    I only hope that Lark is ready, because with Doman's play calling, there is no way Nelson makes it through the season uninjured. In fact, he'll be lucky to make it through the game against OSU if Doman calls 20 running plays for him.

    Time to change the OC.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 9, 2012 12:38 a.m.

    I just watched the video link here. Man, Bronco follows up his statements lacking compassion for Hill and responsibility for the bad call with "it was our fault". Making excuses for the faux paus and then saying my bad doesn't connect the dots.

    Bronco says the whole 'victory' thing was yelled after signalling to Hill that the clock was running. Uh, hello, so what if the clock was running. The whole point was to run the clock, not play hurry up. The coaches gave Hill the impression to go, when he didn't look over, that doesn't excuse what the coaches did. I don't think BYU was close to a delay of game and it wouldn't matter if they were. The coaches are supposed to know that penalties, down and distance, and running clocks are of no importance relative to kneeling down on the football.

    I feel bad for Doman but Bronco is coming across to me as being defiant of feeling any guilt for Hill getting hurt. Hasn't Bronco shown insensitivity to Hill all along? I guess Riley will be his guy again. What about Lark already? This coming from a Ute fan.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 9, 2012 12:05 a.m.

    How unfortunate for Hill. I feel for Doman as well, but he is paid to not make this mistake.

    How can anyone think putting so much on Doman's plate all at once is a good idea (bishop and OC)? Wow, I would literally have a nervous breakdown!

  • yankees27 Heber, Utah
    Oct. 8, 2012 11:36 p.m.

    wow, the Y coaches sound like Obama's team after the debate last week, throwing blame wherever they can. Incompetence. 'Nuff said!

    If I was a QB I would run from this program fast, until they got a QB coach and an OC that could produce results.

    But by all means guys, keep it up, it's working out great at least against the U. Too funny

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Oct. 8, 2012 11:18 p.m.

    As I've mentioned before, nobody uses QB's like Doman does. He is running an outmoded offense based on his career. And gee, didn't he get hurt too that season?

  • gbo Draper, UT
    Oct. 8, 2012 10:42 p.m.

    Unbelievable that a QB carry was the play called in the first place.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Oct. 8, 2012 10:26 p.m.

    One might think our Offensive Coordinator lacks a bit of experience.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Oct. 8, 2012 10:11 p.m.

    Well, let's see....BYU coaches sent in a signal that was missed. Why not immediately CALL TIME OUT? Then you can make certain the QB knows what to do. And after he takes a knee it will be obvious you weren't trying to run up the score but protect your QB. You put a fairly up-and-coming QB at risk and he lost, including the rest of the team. Did you just shrug your shoulders and think, "well, ok, he can run it again?" If so, you DIDN'T think. Just who's in charge here, anyway? Anyone.......? Why not let a back-up QB take a couple knees to end it?

    If lessons are to be learned from mistakes, we sure have had our share of being schooled so that we know better in the future. And some of us that have seen better over the years are just a bit unhappy that common sense seems to have left the program in these situations. After all, this isn't the first rodeo the coaches have been to.......

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Oct. 8, 2012 9:53 p.m.

    Unforgivable incompetence. Doman needs to be replaced, plain and simple. His failures have lost games and now even worse jepordized the career of a very promising player. 6 months means Hill will miss spring ball. There needs to be some accountability for this outrageous incompetence, not just platitudes and "I'm sorries".

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Oct. 8, 2012 9:41 p.m.

    To any player whose calling card is speed, an injury like this can be devastating.

    My heart goes out to Taysom Hill.

    Best of luck in getting well and returning to the field.

  • Black&Blue St George, Utah
    Oct. 8, 2012 9:39 p.m.

    What a waste. I am fed up with the BYU coaching staff, especially Brandon Doman wasting opportunities and talent with poor coaching schemes and unwillingness to make adjustments. If you want to keep a QB healthy, you have to protect him. I could not believe how often Taysom was running up the middle, WITH 8 defenders in the box! This is just poor coaching. Time for a change.

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 8, 2012 9:31 p.m.

    Just read another in the SL Tribune and it explained clearly that Hill misread the signal from the sideline. Not the coaches fault, after all.

  • Runner Chandler, AZ
    Oct. 8, 2012 9:27 p.m.

    The signal is one thing...but why aren't these QBs taught the importance for and the need to slide? It's for their benefit and for the benefit of the team. And don't give me the line of, " That's what makes Riley (or Taysome) Riley.". No, that's what makes Riley hold the clipboard and puts them on the surgeons table. BYU needs an Offensive Coordinator who has the guts, maturity, and wisdom to communicate and teach that to his QB. Doman is doing them and this team a disservice with his lack of experience and limited ability.

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 8, 2012 9:27 p.m.

    So, who called the QB carry instead of the victory formation?

    (Name any other coaching staff in the US that would have called a QB carry in this situation.)