Why Americans hate welfare and what that tells us about immigration policy

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  • prelax Murray, UT
    Oct. 9, 2012 3:36 a.m.

    We have welfare
    We don't have immigration enforcement.
    Let's wrap a study around that.

    This sounds like propaganda for open borders and amnesty.

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Oct. 9, 2012 12:50 a.m.

    Yes, on corporate welfare.

    No, on welfare for people...

    unless they look like you.

    And last but not least...

    If there's racism, it's likely God's doing...

    Got it.

  • Californian#[email protected] San Francisco, CA
    Oct. 8, 2012 9:31 p.m.


    Oops, I meant LBJ

  • Californian#[email protected] San Francisco, CA
    Oct. 8, 2012 8:40 p.m.

    Americans don't "hate welfare."

    Americans hate welfare abuse and welfare mismanagement.

    Most Americans are compassionate, most have known some hardship, and most genuinely want to help. This is why we give to reputable charities--lower and middle classes proportionately more generously than the obscenely rich. Since few of us have unlimited means, we're unhappy with scams, fraud, people who could work making welfare a lifelong lifestyle, multiple generations of fatherless children growing up in public housing where nobody earns a living, and bureaucratic ineptness that perpetuates all the above.

    I'm glad to contribute by choice to the Salvation Army, Goodwill Industries, Deseret Industries, Habitat, Church fast and humanitarian offerings, and other NGOs that help people become and remain self-reliant. I have no choice about the check I write to the IRS or state tax board, and no confidence that anyone is benefitting other than the governmental and academic "social welfare" bureaucracy that has grown up to corrupt the ideals of the New Deal and the Great Society. FDR and LBS wanted people to be educated and empowered, not enabled and enslaved. They would be appalled at what has become of their worthy objectives.

  • wrz Ogden, UT
    Oct. 8, 2012 2:39 p.m.

    "People don't like helping poor people who don't look like them."

    That statement is largely true. On the other hand, people who don't look like you generally look like someone else who they prefer to associate with. Who wants to help someone who won't integrate, associates only with each other, and generally cast similar votes? It's a two way street. And there is not easy answer.

    And, by the way, if there's racism it's likely God's doing. He/She has designed the system so that folks propagate their own kind. Hispanics have Hispanic kids, etc.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 8, 2012 2:32 p.m.

    We love to serve and help those in need, and are more than willing to provide support for those who truly need it and appreciate receiving it.

    What we hate are the freeloaders who think taxpayers owe them a living, who sell their food stamps to buy drugs, and who take advantage of the freebies so they can avoid the work required to earn a living.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Oct. 8, 2012 2:20 p.m.

    For over 100 years America has had a standard for immigrants: You will not come here if you are likely to become a public charge.
    The New Deal and Great Society have created vast entitlement programs. Despite legislation in 1986 and 1996, immigrants have had access to our welfare programs. With few exceptions, it is legal for immigrants to obtain most benefits, regardless of their status.
    I suppose a few reporters and professors would label the problem racism. I do not.
    Sadly, the Deseret News editors have allowed this story to run.

  • RandomTraveler Livermore, CA
    Oct. 8, 2012 2:11 p.m.

    You can sure tell that the author of the book, "Why Americans hate welfare", is a flaming progressive. The thought that we in the United States don't like welfare because we are racist is pure garbage. We don't like welfare in this country when it goes to people who are able to work and won't. It has nothing to do with race. Those of us who value the principles upon which this country was founded don't believe in redistribution of wealth. Giving people handouts without them working for those handouts brings on a welfare state. If Martin Gilens and Bryan Caplan like wealth distribution so much, perhaps they should move to a country such as Sweden where they would be more comfortable. It is clearly obvious that Gilens and Caplan don't understand the principles this country was founded upon and in fact don't want to know.