Republicans need to learn to talk to women, says GOP congresswoman

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  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 8, 2012 9:48 a.m.

    @Furry1993 & Wonder

    You are partially correct that the government does not provide contraception (although there are government programs that do), however by forcing all insurance to provide contraception, sterilization and abortifacients, regardless of CHOICE, it has the same effect.

    In your faux-choice pious zeal you seem to forget that here are a great number of people who have religious and moral objections to morning after pills, etc. Obama must first ignore the First Amendment guarantees of freedom of religion to force those morally opposed to abortion etc to pay for abortion pills.

    You can argue that contraception is basic health care all you want - but such argument appear vapid and diversionary because NO ONE is stopping women or men from buying contraception - the GOVERNMENT is forcing Catholics and others with religious objections to pay for it.

    Your assumption that your right to "choice" includes the right to force others to pay for your "choice" represents basic left-wing hypocrisy at its worst.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Oct. 8, 2012 4:43 a.m.

    Aren't there any men in the Democrat party? Does the GOP have a monopoly on understanding women? Moral and medical issues are issues that government should not be invloved in and this carries right in to socialised health care tax.

    No medical procedure of care or service is immune to being cut from the system. Its impossible to insure every american stays healthy and care is not free. You'll find that out when you get your hospital bill of a million dollars for serviced rendered and not covered by the federal health care act insurance.

    Insurance is a hoax, it does not and will not exist under any government tax liability. Insurgence is not collective bargaining guaranteed health care, its a mandated tax that pretends to be health care coverage.

    The HCA is a screen name tax liability that all americans must pay the government. The IRS collects this new tax with no liability or basis to pay for health care or costs. Its a tax saying you have to buy other insurance or else. The HCA is a tax that provides no service, including health care.

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    Oct. 7, 2012 8:15 a.m.

    Obama has endorsements from Larry Flynt and Hugh Hefner. And the Republicans still struggle to get women to vote for them? How hard can that be?

  • DVD Taylorsville, 00
    Oct. 7, 2012 8:06 a.m.

    The Republican Party was formed as part of a shift in the mid 1800s away from values that those who joined the Republicans wanted. The Whigs at the time wouldn't represent those people. Is it time for a new party or is it time to polically manuever control of the current party back from the extremist?

    And indeed, one of the mindsets of the 'small tent' extremists is that the daughters of God should not have a voice in life. If they were prominent in Utah politics 120 years ago, women would not have been able to vote as soon as Utah had statehood in 1896.

  • Salsa Libre Provo, UT
    Oct. 6, 2012 11:51 p.m.

    ute alumni Tengoku, UT

    "Yeap lose the moral compass . . . "

    So what is the one, true religion and all the others are an abomination? Isn't your argument basically the same?

    Flashback Kearns, UT

    You must live in a very small community to have all the women you know support the Republican candidate. Are you sure they're telling you the truth? Do you not have any independent-minded women in your social circle? I know there is a significant amount of peer pressure in Utah to make people conform and keep their opinions to themselves lest they get ostracized and ridiculed, but then that's how things are in a closed society.

  • Ying Fah Provo, UT
    Oct. 6, 2012 11:41 p.m.

    Women are not the only group Republicans need to learn to talk to. They need to learn to talk to everyone outside their core base of conservative zealots wanting to live like they think they lived years ago while at the same time controlling the lives of people not like them.

    When we see people like Todd Akin make stupid remarks without regard to reality and then see Republicans rally to his defense just so they can win a senate seat, I see people who place Party over the country. Having stupid people in government just to vote yes for an ideological agenda is the quickest way to isolation and irrelevancy one can imagine.

    The march of the Republican Party to the far, far, extreme Right only sets them apart from, not only women, but the American people. Sure, Republicans may continue to hold 30-40% of the electorate by utilizing various ploys to gin up their numbers, but they will always lose Congress and the White House. And intelligent Republicans will continue to leave the Party because that cannot tolerate the take-over by anti-intellectual troglodytes destined for obscurity.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    Oct. 6, 2012 5:00 p.m.

    If Rush won't take the job, then I nominate Flashback as official GOP spokes-dude to women.

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Oct. 6, 2012 4:48 p.m.

    If it was true that Obamacare provided for "government funded contraceptives" for everyone, I too would be against it. That would be silly. What's even sillier is that so many tea partiers think that is what the law says. Furry is right. It isn't that the government is going to be on every street corner handing out the contraceptives right and left. The law is just saying that contraceptives have to be part of the plan that insurance companies offer. Now is that really so horrible?

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Oct. 6, 2012 4:02 p.m.

    to Flashback 1:45 p.m. Oct. 6, 2012

    Not in favor of government funded contraceptives. You want to have them? Pay for them yourselves or don't succomb to your biological urges so readly.


    The government doesn't fund contraceptives. It just ensures that the contraceptives are available as part of the insurance a woman obtains. Rightly so -- they should be part of insurance coverage for all women. They are basic preventive health care.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Oct. 6, 2012 1:48 p.m.

    Oh by the way, most women that I know are voting for Romney. What gender gap? It is a creation of the media.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Oct. 6, 2012 1:45 p.m.

    Not in favor of government funded contraceptives. You want to have them? Pay for them yourselves or don't succomb to your biological urges so readly.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 6, 2012 11:08 a.m.

    Ignoring the other comments which are way off topic, the Congresswoman has a good point.

    People all have individual personality preferences. These are not "right" or "wrong" (or even right and left) just the way people tend to think or perceive things. The "Myers-Briggs" preference tests have been given to hundreds of thousands of people and the preferences can be sorted out into different categories. The results show that there is a very distinct difference between most men and most women in certain areas. This could be summed up as women tending to be more emotion and feeling based while men tend to be more oriented to facts and analytical things.

    Thus, the suggestion is a valid one, regardless of the actual policy issues under discussion.

    And, by the way, Romney and Ryan are actually right on most of their policies which would greatly improve things for men and women, rich and poor, young and old.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Oct. 6, 2012 9:59 a.m.

    Yeap lose the moral compass and win? That is called losing.

  • Bebyebe UUU, UT
    Oct. 6, 2012 8:36 a.m.

    When conservatives decided to embrace social conservatism (guns, God, gays and abortion) they lost many people. Go back to fiscal conservancy and let people control their own private lives. Then you will win.

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    Oct. 6, 2012 8:20 a.m.

    Mitt Romney does not connect, or care to make the effort to connect to women.
    Kinda like he has never connected to the rest of the voters in America.

  • Economist Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 6, 2012 12:09 a.m.


    The problem isn't the "tone" or the - how did Mitt Romney put it - "Eloquence" of how the message is being portrayed. It's the Message, itself that's the problem! But how can you tell the GOP Establishment anything. They're so busy lecturing everyone else, they have no time to Listen.

    With over 14 states in the union having a GOP Dominant majority in their respective legislative Houses, the only jobs bills that have passed with any considerable media attention have been those bills attacking women's access to health care or their reproductive rights.

    Jobs, jobs, jobs...everyone. It's all about jobs. Oh, and Conspiracy Theories...