Slain Border Patrol agent Nicholas Ivie died from friendly fire

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  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 8, 2012 6:39 a.m.

    Re: WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT

    Correction. It was U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry that was murdered by a firearm provided by the ATF to Mexican drug dealers.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 8, 2012 6:28 a.m.

    Re: WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    "All you Fast and Furious folks, please holster your accusations."

    They aren't accusations but are proven facts. Are you suggesting that we forget US Border Patrol Agent Nicholas Ivie and the fact that this botched gun smuggling operation was responsible for his death?

  • trackerjohn deming, NM
    Oct. 7, 2012 4:04 p.m.

    I am including a clip which I captured from an article in today’s La Times:
    > > Gun-trace documents from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives obtained by The Times show that a high-powered rifle and a handgun were found near the shooting scene, though it was not clear whether they were connected to the incident.

  • wYo8 Rock Springs, WY
    Oct. 7, 2012 1:09 p.m.

    What does having to be conservitive do with the shooting of Agent Ivie. Fast and furious is an known fact of the obama administration and als the giving of guns in South America under the obama controlled government. If Agent Ivie was shot with a fast and furious gun that could still be considered friendly fire since obama and holder gave the guns to the outlaws south of the border.

  • trackerjohn deming, NM
    Oct. 6, 2012 2:12 p.m.

    Each one of the recovered cases can quickly & easily be compared to not only the extractor on each agent’s weapon, but also to the firing pins! I doubt seriously if either agent discharged more than ten or twenty rounds. Since the brass would have been recovered in group setting, one wouldn’t even need to compare all casings, only a sampling from each group. Clearly this has already been done, so why continue with the nonsense? Also quite likely they recovered projectiles (bullets or parts of bullets) and law enforcement knows which agent shot whom?

  • trackerjohn deming, NM
    Oct. 6, 2012 2:10 p.m.

    Some of the comments here are most telling. The public has been lied to and deceived by these government agencies so many & countless times, that it’s hard for them to accept the simple truth when it is presented. In this particular case, and depending upon which news source a person views, the agencies are still not presenting a fully truthful and clear picture. The CCSO is also not being completely honest, and in fact as late as this morning left the door have slightly open, that ‘’other’’ subject could have been present, and ‘’may have’’ fired shots from the same cal. weapon used by the Border Patrol, and which reflect the only cal of brass being recovered from the scene. That statement ‘’could’’ of course be ‘’true’’, but certainly easy enough to have been either confirmed or proven false at this late date in time, and here is how: cont.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 6, 2012 1:35 p.m.

    What a sad month the past 30 days have been with our United States of America embassy personnel that were taken down due to security lapses. I would believe the border agents also have a lack of procedures and communication lapses if this is actually is what happened.

    The embassy security process and what really happened is questionable due to integrity of words and potential coverups.

    Hopefully, the Homeland Security process isn't flawed with integrity and actual what happened processes, too.

    If you can't trust the other people you are working with, that is a sad day for all, especially in these important government jobs with a great deal of importance for those working on the line.

    You trust or have to trust the other people supporting you as the system breaks down very fast. The people in the "foxhole" are trusting the others next to you are on the same side and supporting you as much as you are hopefully supporting them.

    That kind of support and attitude comes from the top down if the top wants to be supported from the bottom of the totem pole.

    You need someone at the top that you can trust!

  • donburi South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 6, 2012 12:10 p.m.

    "It doesn't make any difference if he was killed by Mexican military, Mexican drug dealers, gun runners, friendly fire or moon rays shot by Martians. He died on the job, and that's what's important. Period."

    Really? If it was friendly fire, a review is absolutely in order to find out why it happened in order to prevent such huge mistakes in the future. It does make a difference.

  • AZRods Maricopa, AZ
    Oct. 6, 2012 11:50 a.m.

    This makes me feel worse for the family. And to me it does matter how a loved one died.
    Just ask the wife of Pat Tillman.
    If it ever surfaces that they are covering up something to avoid a negative political message I will be truly disgusted and disappointed.
    There is enough spin on the truth about the economy, immigration and a thousand other important issues.
    Can we please just get the truth when it comes to someone who was a good, upstanding man who was just doing his job?

  • iron&clay RIVERTON, UT
    Oct. 6, 2012 8:46 a.m.

    About a month before election and all articles and investigations are being spun so as to protect the President from the truth about his policies that aid and abet enemies of the U.S. and that are harmful to our nations security.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Oct. 6, 2012 5:39 a.m.

    I beg to differ with the retired policeman from Chicago, how he died does matter and that he was a federal agent is irrelevant. Its time to stop putting law enforcement on pedestals and treat them as normal american citizens and human beings.

    The American public deserves as much compassion for being killed as does those who choose this line of professional work. It has been reported that a weapon from the ATF 'fast and furious' debacle was used to wound and kill these agents and arrests were made implicating their weapons.

    Are we to believe that these drug lords and members of the La Raza having been armed by the ATF were actually friends of thee administration in Washington? And are now friendly Mexican occupational forces dressed in border patrol uniforms?

    Then its very doubtful that a lone border patrol agent in the field alone shot these agents. This remark sound very suspicious and a cover up to keep a low profile incident of war by the ATF on our soil is to be tolerated? Once again the administration is writing the armed war reports to cover up white house botched plans.

  • PAC Phoenix, AZ
    Oct. 5, 2012 9:47 p.m.

    OK, that just makes you sick inside. Come on people look before you shoot! I am lost for words..

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 9:20 p.m.

    @idaho stranger
    So we should let conservative poster continue to exploit this tragedy with false claims against the obama administration until when exactly? they certainly waited for far less proof before bouncing.

  • IdahoStranger NEWDALE, ID
    Oct. 5, 2012 9:10 p.m.

    Until it is verified and proven, it should not be reported at all!

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 8:25 p.m.

    A tragedy.

    Condolences to the family.

    All you Fast and Furious folks, please holster your accusations.

    Now is not the time and/or the place to spew conspiracy theories.

  • prelax Murray, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 7:54 p.m.

    Until it's verified and proven, it should be reported as "possible"

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Oct. 5, 2012 6:08 p.m.

    @A Scientist

    I was thinking the same thing. We cannot be reminded enough times about the fact that there are those in our society who risk their lives on a daily basis for us. Crossfire is only one of those risks that must be faced. We should not forget the families of those in law enforcement who are sacrificing for us as well. Many of them are very young children who will now not have one of their parents in their lives as the grow up. We kind never thank these families enough or do enough for them in their hour of need.

  • A Scientist Provo, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 5:32 p.m.

    This news changes nothing about the high regard in which I and countless others will hold this heroic young father and husband. He put his life on the line everyday, and in a risky profession, all it takes is one risky day.

    I hope the family finds comfort some way, some how.

  • BU52 Provo, ut
    Oct. 5, 2012 5:22 p.m.

    Do those that write the headlines even read the article?

  • prelax Murray, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 5:20 p.m.

    And Mexicans are our friends? Mexico said they arrested two of the people. I hope they are not playing politics on this.

  • Ballplayer Spanish Fork, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 4:00 p.m.

    Friendly Fire has to be the worst misnomer every coined.

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 3:43 p.m.

    And that was a professional with a gun.
    I know! Lets let ANYONE carry a gun! What could possibly go wrong?
    RIP Agent Ivie.

  • middle class Cedar City, 00
    Oct. 5, 2012 3:16 p.m.

    The Washington Post is reporting that the FBI has determined that it was in fact friendly fire that killed Agent Ivie and wounded another agent.