Race tied in new National Journal poll, tight in others

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  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 4, 2012 8:01 a.m.

    Re: LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    "126 Electoral College votes ahead is "slightly" more than just "slight"."

    Don't count your chickens, or in this case Obama's Electoral College votes, before they hatch. He who laughs last on November 6th laughs best.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Oct. 3, 2012 9:37 p.m.

    people are already voting

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Oct. 3, 2012 9:36 p.m.

    it was romney's fault obama was creamed in the debate.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Oct. 3, 2012 2:26 p.m.

    Ute Alumni-
    Better check your dates. If you show up to the polls on 11/2 it will look a lot like a Romney Campaign stop.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Oct. 3, 2012 11:07 a.m.

    the only poll that counts is 11-2-12. little barry will have his lunch (paid for by the US) handed to him tonight. shut off the lights the party's over.

  • Badger55 Nibley, Ut
    Oct. 3, 2012 9:15 a.m.

    Republican enthusiasm is up by double digits compared to Democrats. Romney is leading with independents. Obama won 52 percent of them in 2008. Compared to Mccain's 44 percent. Latino registration is projected to be almost half a million less than in 2008. Black voter registration is down almost 7% since 2008. These three voting blocks, in conjuction with the Democrats winning the voter turnout over Republicans, are what gave Obama the white house in 2008. This is the first poll, that I have seen that, uses pre-2008 voting models. It is highly improbable that Obama will get that same turnout. This race is anything but over.

  • metamoracoug metamora, IL
    Oct. 3, 2012 7:42 a.m.

    I bleed blue: The middle class getting the shaft has already happened with Obama who has foisted on US citizens the largest most regressive tax(es) in our history with the misnamed "Affordable" Care Act. Please see my previous posts.

    Can we reduce the national debt without increasing taxes in some way? Probably not. Can we reduce the deficit without slashing spending? Definitely not.

    Mr. Romney is proposing to cut spending and increase a few taxes. The President has already increased taxes -- the ACA -- and clearly has no intention of reducing spending. Herein lies the electorate's decision for the coming election.

  • I Bleed Blue Las Vegas, NV
    Oct. 2, 2012 11:52 p.m.

    Wait until Mitt tells us all he is wants to do away with the mortgage interest deduction. Yes, that is part of his 'plan'. In other words, he will raise most peoples taxes. The great middle class will get the shaft again because that is the biggest deduction for most people. Classic Mitt is out of touch again. And by the way, that will do wonders for the already fragile housing market. Meanwhile, he wants to do away with the capital gains tax so he pays even less.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Oct. 2, 2012 10:28 p.m.

    I would invite all interested parties (including the author) to read the National Journal article quoted in this story. It notes that the actual 2008 turnout was "39% Democrats, 32% Republicans, 29% Independents." If anything, these polls are under-sampling Democrats.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 2, 2012 9:51 p.m.

    Looks like they finally asked the right amount of the right people, or at least they are closer now. These polls are clearly more valid than any previous polls.

  • DVD Taylorsville, 00
    Oct. 2, 2012 8:43 p.m.

    How much of the country thinks that Obama cares more about their plight, and how many think that Romney cares? How many are still remembering the Republican primaries where it basically was laid out that women and the non-rich in general don't really matter? Mitt was against all of that, but still shoulders the burden of those memories in the public eye and has a hard time separating himself from all the mud slung for that year.

    Basically, who comes out as believing more in mercy and inclusion?

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 2, 2012 8:13 p.m.

    "You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some people all of the time, but you cannot fool all the people all of the time."

    As long as Obama's lies and dodging the major issues he fails to confront continue, he may well win reelection.

    The takers will be delirious with joy and the makers will decide that it is just not worth the effort to work for a better life for your family when the fruits of your labors are seized and given to those unwilling to work themselves.

    This really is the most important election of our lifetimes, and the very survival of our country in its traditional form is at stake. If Obama wins, we are doomed to no better than European socialism, and perhaps anarchy from the class warfare he promotes. If Romney wins there will be hard time and tough choices as we struggle to get spending under control and restore Constitutional principles.

    Let's hope Obama's lead vanishes in time to save our country.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 2, 2012 7:30 p.m.

    metamoracoug went on and on about some medical taxes. Sounds like Romney has the answer then: bag medical coverage for Americans and send them all to the emergency room. That will provide some entertainment value on I-15. Those billboards bragging about low emergency room wait times will have to be rewritten "our wait time is only XX hours".

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Oct. 2, 2012 6:40 p.m.

    Fascinating analysis as always.

    Oh by the way, did you happen to see the Fox News tracking numbers? They show Obama ahead by five points 48-43. Another oversampling problem?

  • CP Tooele, UT
    Oct. 2, 2012 6:34 p.m.

    I do remember that Obama said that if he was elected the White House's first dog would be a shelter dog..that was his first promise and he didn't keep it..and he's been breaking his promises since and stacking up a huge debt that boggles the mind..Just keep that in mind. All Obama does is talk smooth and that's it..Talk Talk Talk..nothing more. Obama will never get my vote..he didn't 4 yrs ago and he won't now. He has made a mess and if he gets re-elected for another 4 yrs.. Heaven help us!

  • peacemaker Provo, UT
    Oct. 2, 2012 5:37 p.m.

    Ignore the polls. Just a fixed statistic from the Obama supporting national media. Fox said Romney leading. Polls are not an indicator of anything. Ronald Reagan trailed by 8 percent three weeks before his election.

  • kiapolo Provo, MA
    Oct. 2, 2012 4:24 p.m.

    I love how he's killing Romney in the electoral vote and it's only a slight edge. No spin there, no sir.

  • metamoracoug metamora, IL
    Oct. 2, 2012 4:13 p.m.

    4) Medical itemized deductions: Currently, Americans facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction of all expenses exceeding 7.5% of adjusted gross income (AGI). Obamacare raises this deduction to 10 percent of AGI. By limiting this deduction, Obamacare widens the net of taxable income for the sickest Americans.

    5) Medicare payroll tax hike: The Medicare payroll tax is currently 2.9 percent on all wages and self-employment profits. Under this tax hike, wages and profits exceeding $200,000 single or $250,000 married couples will face a 3.8 percent rate instead. This is a direct marginal income tax hike on small business owners, who are liable for self-employment tax in most cases.

  • metamoracoug metamora, IL
    Oct. 2, 2012 4:12 p.m.

    Here's some other things you need to know before the election that Mr. Obama can't blame on Mr. Bush:

    New taxes imposed through Obamacare beginning in 2013:

    1) Medical device tax: imposes a new 2.3% excise tax on gross on gross sales -- even if the company didn't make a profit. Medical device manufacturers employ 490,000 in 12,000 plants across the country. not only burdening small businesses, this tax raises the cost of everything from pacemakers to prosthetics.

    2) Currently, flexible spending accounts (FSA) are unlimited by law though employers may place a cap on them. This is pre-tax dollars. Obamacare caps FSAs at $2500. This affects 30-35 million Americans who use FSAs to meet basic medical needs. It could dramatically affect families with special needs children.

    3) Surtax on investment income: a new, 3.8 percentage point surtax on investment income earned in households making at least $250,000 married ($200,000 single). This is on top of raising taxes on capital gains from 15% to 20% and on dividends from 15% to 39.6%.

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  • metamoracoug metamora, IL
    Oct. 2, 2012 4:08 p.m.

    Mountainman: you know the answer to all of your concerns. The president inherited this mess. It is all W's fault. We're making progress (towards what?).

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Oct. 2, 2012 4:06 p.m.

    "Heading into first debate, President Obama still holds slight edge over Mitt Romney"


    As of right now;

    Obama = 332
    Romney = 206

    Only 270 Electoral College votes are needed to win

    126 Electoral College votes ahead is "slightly" more than just "slight".

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Oct. 2, 2012 3:55 p.m.

    I wonder how Obama will debate the fast and furious lies and cover-ups, the Solyndra debacle, the White House intelligence leaks, the GSA scandal, his 49 million food stamp recipients, his $6.5 trillion additions to the national debt, his lies about the Libyan ambassador’s death, the 40% loss of the average American’s net worth on his watch, the two credit downgrades of our federal government’s credit rating on his watch, the 25 million Americans who can’t find a job and have given up looking and the double digit inflation of food and energy costs? The only question about this debate is how he excuses and defends his failures!

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Oct. 2, 2012 3:22 p.m.

    That gap will widen considerably, almost as soon as Mitt starts talking.

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Oct. 2, 2012 3:13 p.m.

    And that gap will widen considerably as soon as Mitt opens his mouth,
    and subsequently removes his $3500 size 12 Ferragamo from it.