Unsupervised? Texas mom goes to jail for letting kids play outside

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  • jill17 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 22, 2012 9:40 p.m.

    i'd just like to know if the same people bashing the neighbor and police are the same commentators who rip on the parents when their unsupervised kids are victms of crimes committed by strangers. A lot of hypocrisy on these boards from people so quick to always pass judgemnt. I agree that this mom shouldn't have been arrested. When will we realize parents can't watch their children 24/7, no matter how great of parents they are. Remember your feelings on this story if your quick to fault a parent for not watching their child like they should have.

  • easternobserver Denton, MD
    Sept. 22, 2012 12:54 p.m.

    @ Linus -
    "If I wanted to make up a fictional story to make the whole thing more comfortable, then I would become a fiction-writer and try to get published."

    What in my theory makes anything more "comfortable"? That's an odd word choice.

    I still say there's a very strong likelihood of some background/neighborhood history not addressed in the article. Read between the lines, Linus.

  • Lyle Springville, UT
    Sept. 22, 2012 1:20 a.m.

    So the mom is "abandoning a child" if she is watching them from, what, less than a block away? So, what if your five-year-old walks three blocks to school? Throw the parents in jail! Like some of the other readers here, I had the run of the neighborhood at that age. I just had to head home when the streetlights started to come on.

    If the kids were riding their scooters in an unsafe manner, the police officer should have warned the mom. Problem solved. The police department in this case seems to be suffering from some kind of collective mental illness.

  • Karl Logan, UT
    Sept. 22, 2012 12:49 a.m.

    I find it ironic how quick some people are to jump all over the neighbor for being so quick to jump all over the mom.

    We know so little, yet judge so quickly....and at times, so harshly.

  • Joe Moe Logan, UT
    Sept. 22, 2012 12:31 a.m.

    This was unfortunate, and lessons can be drawn. I can speak with some experience because I'm pretty sure my wife and I are being ostracized by one of our neighbors because she thinks we don't supervise our kids closely enough.

    But overreactions like those of A1994 are just as ridiculous. Fire the police chief and sue the concerned neighbor who raised the question with police? Please. And how this became a partisan issue for some, I don't know; just goes to show how one-track-minded some of us have become.

  • HCB63 Orem, UT
    Sept. 21, 2012 11:29 p.m.

    When I was six or seven I would disappear for the whole day, showing up for dinner at the right time. My mom would ask me if I had fun, give me a hug and welcome me home. That was it. It is ludicrous to assume child endangerment because you, as a parent, aren't standing over your child in an obvious [to everyone else] supervisory role. Where is common sense? Or does assumption and stupidity reign rampant more than ever?

  • dung beetle Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 21, 2012 8:26 p.m.

    If I really wrote what I'm thinking about this nonsense, the Deseret News wouldn't allow it. Suffice it to say that this is the stupidest thing I've heard in a long time. At the very least the cops should have used some common sense before they jailed her (like issue her a citation)and she should never have been jailed.

  • A voice of Reason Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 21, 2012 7:21 p.m.

    I might add that when I was 17 my parents didn't know where I was typically because I was TRYING to alleviate them knowing where I was.

    Again, this is ridiculous and everyone knows it.

  • A voice of Reason Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 21, 2012 7:20 p.m.

    I'm all for arresting her! Call it a crime and punish for it! Luckily our constitution requires that the law equally apply to everyone. In that case, arrest everyone! We're all going to jail. Ha ha ha ha!!

    Yeah, some things get more ridiculous by the day. New federal law: "Children can never be alone." 1) What a laugh, really... 2) Good luck enforcing it on everyone.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 21, 2012 6:37 p.m.

    more namby pamby democrats stealing our freedom.....this is what Bloomberg and Obama are all about!

  • Blue AZ Cougar ,
    Sept. 21, 2012 5:43 p.m.

    I second Kralon's comment -- if this were the case when I was growing up, my parents would have spent many nights in jail. Sheesh, lighten up people! I didn't realize you had to be a consenting adult to play outside in Texas without your mommy's oversight. Time to cut the umbilical cord already.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Sept. 21, 2012 5:36 p.m.

    The police chief needs to be fired. The neighbor needs to be prosecuted for filing a false police report. This is disgusting that this is happening in America.

  • Marsh Valley Mom Downey, Idaho
    Sept. 21, 2012 5:03 p.m.

    When I lived in San Diego, I lived in a mobile home park at the end of a street (no outlet). My kids played in front of the house. My neighbor accused me of not watching my kids, but sit in the window sewing. I responded that I sat in that window to watch my child, and when he disappeared from view, I went to the windows that looked out over the street and looked out after him. He got in trouble, but always got caught and disciplined. What makes me laugh is than when his next child came, he never watched her. The other kids had to come get him to check up on his kid because she was causing trouble. Maybe the neighbor was bothered by the motorized bikes and didn't see the mother sitting there. Children need to learn autonomy -- to govern themselves. Having mommy watch them all the times does nothing for them. Where I live now, no one watches their kids. And no one calls the police unless there is legal problems (stealing, etc.)

  • rnoble Pendleton, OR
    Sept. 21, 2012 4:56 p.m.

    Please be aware that the definitions of "good" parenting differ extensively when it comes to machinery of many types, including scooters, and kids of various ages. Probably the most spectacular fight ever not recorded in Washington state was about kids(me) and machinery and occurred between my mom and dad when I was three. So if parents can disagree, it takes no imagination at all to see that neighbors might disagree and as a corollary that society will take unnecessary and mistaken action as did the police department even after consulting by telephone with their district attorney office. Obvious because of subsequent events, the story on the telephone was insufficient for good advice.

  • Jonathan Eddy Payson, UT
    Sept. 21, 2012 4:43 p.m.

    Anti home schooler hate crime.

  • kargirl Sacramento, CA
    Sept. 21, 2012 4:23 p.m.

    I don't think the government had anything to do with it, so there's no sense looking for somebody in a suit behind a tree. No doubt it was the whole idea that pervades too many of today's self-syled "experts" that a "good" parent provides "social", "growth" or "learning" experiences for the kiddos so if they are having unstructured good times with each other (free play, it was called once upon a time) that our intrepid stay-at-home Mom is sipping something she shouldn't or watching soaps on TV. Then some poor police officer is drawn into it and the cops are trying to do their job, unaware that the neighborhood "child expert" is at it again.

  • Lone Star Cougar Plano, TX
    Sept. 21, 2012 3:38 p.m.

    Seems like a busybody neighbor is part of this but the police dong what they did is beyond reason. This is Big Brother or the Nanny State coming right after you! I hope she wims the lawsuit and I hope the neighbor that did this is outed.

  • emp1 Provo, UT
    Sept. 21, 2012 2:45 p.m.

    If the police come to my neighborhood they will make their day arresting parents! There are little kids (younger than 6) running around in the street with no adult supervision, as a matter of fact you don't even see who these kids belong to because all doors and blinds are closed and I don't live in a cul-de-sac.
    My own mom used to leave me at the pool for hours while she ran errands, always reminding me to be careful and not talk to strangers.
    Bottom line is...our parents did it to us or we may have left our child unsupervised during playing time. Why this mother got arrested for it? Good question. It will be interesting to see how this story develops...

  • Linus Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 21, 2012 1:21 p.m.

    re: easternobserver
    You are right; you are guessing. There ought to be something more to this story than society gone nuts, but in this day of government intrusion, regulation, and nannyism, nothing is surprising anymore. The article actually told what the children were doing and where they were doing it. So there is no need for you to make up an alternate story.
    As for myself, I like to assume that the clues to what happened in a news story are in the story. If I wanted to make up a fictional story to make the whole thing more comfortable, then I would become a fiction-writer and try to get published.

  • easternobserver Denton, MD
    Sept. 21, 2012 12:59 p.m.

    Sounds like there must be something more to this story... Maybe the kids were trespassing or doing something on the scooters that appeared to be unsafe to the neighbor who made the report, or perhaps this was just one more salvo in a long-running spat between the the adults involved. I'm guessing it's the latter.

  • SL Rexburg, ID
    Sept. 21, 2012 11:53 a.m.

    Welcome to the age of hyper-parenting. Here's to hoping she wins her lawsuit. By the time I was ten I was camping, fishing, and riding my bike for miles without adult supervision. Sheesh.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Sept. 21, 2012 11:30 a.m.

    holder will surface and make it a federal charge.

    Sept. 21, 2012 11:28 a.m.

    Wow, is there a statute of limitations on child abandonment? Otherwise my momma is soooo going to jail! And starting about 6 years old I never stayed anywhere close to home!