BYU football: BYU vs. Boise State from an insider's perspective

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  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Sept. 19, 2012 9:56 p.m.

    Cache county, USA

    Let's be honest, your comment is subpar at best. If BYU showed him the door, he would be through another the next day, and it would probably with a comparable or slightly better team.

    Bronco, and the head coach job at BYU, in any sport, is something you just aren't going to be able to pigeon-hole with the rest of the coaches / teams.


    Your critiques are much more objective and accurate. Bronco beleives the theory is sound as is, why mess with it. In theory, that makes sense. Whit is the perfect example of why that theory gets thrown out the door.

    Still, if the cougars can play with composure, I think their defense keeps them close and their offense just might come alive. Call me too overly optimistic, but there it is.

    I suppose the theory isn't so incomprehensible. There is right, and wrong. Choose the right. Why vary. Works in fundamental truths of the universe, but when your universe

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 19, 2012 7:30 p.m.

    "BYU needs emotion. I think Van Noy and Nelson are the only players that showed any sort of passion during the game last week."

    Was there another player named Nelson playing for BYU last week? I'm pretty sure you weren't referring to Riley. He slept (glassy eyed) through the first 3 quarters, lazily fumbled away the ball, killed drives, put his team in deep holes, held the ball on option plays for big losses when he should have pitched it, let shotgun snaps sail over his shoulder while he was asleep at the wheel and then let a defensive back beat him to the ball and take it 47 yds for a TD and single-handedly spotted the other team to a 24-7 lead before waking up and deciding to play.

    Van Noy was awesome, so was Hadley and Ogletree. The three played monster games and Ansah was in the backfield an awful lot. Guys on offense that played with passion were Kane Friel, Michael Alisa and Jamaal Williams and Hoffman had an amazing game.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 19, 2012 7:20 p.m.

    " relentless in learning all he can about his opponents and from other teams, and he knows how to adjust based on his personnel and where football is heading"

    Ohhh...nuts. I knew there was a catch. I guess that makes it pretty clear what is different between Bronco and Chris Peterson (besides win-loss records, big game success, etc) as football coaches.

    One studies his opponents and makes adjustments along the way if he sees things are working according to play while the other just does the same old thing game after game, 1st quarter through 4th quarter regardless of who he's playing.

    As the old saying goes, "the proof is in the pudding".

  • Bear Somewhere, UT
    Sept. 19, 2012 2:41 p.m.

    I know this will not be a popular comment but it needs to be said. Riley Nelson is a tremendous "football player" and everything you could ask for in a team leader but a great quarterback he is not. He puts more effort into the game than the rest of the team combined but that does not complete passes. BYU has a group of receivers that most quarterbacks dream of. Riley does make some plays with his legs that a traditional drop back quarterback can't make but think of all the missed passes that could have been. I am not knocking Riley at all. There is definitely a roll for him on this team.

  • BYU_Aggie LOGAN, UT
    Sept. 19, 2012 1:25 p.m.


    ...and Nebraska, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Texas, Florida State, Oklahoma, Virginia Tech, TCU...

    Oh, I guess BYU does have that patsy game where they traveled to Boise.

  • Mark321 Las Vegas, NV
    Sept. 19, 2012 9:02 a.m.

    The game between BYU-Boise St. will be a good one. My assessment is that Boise St. doesn't have as good of a defense as Utah last week but probably has a little better offense then Utah, so BYU should be able to score against them if they could handle the crowd noise and not shoot themselves in the foot, and if our defense plays with the kind of heart a passion they did against Utah we should be fine (they only gave up 17 to Utah). I am fully aware of how difficult Boise St. is too beat at Boise St., and BYU can't overlook how good Coach Peterson is. Boise St. is the 24th ranked team in the country and it's been since #18 Oregon State (Vegas bowl 2009) when we last beat a ranked team. If BYU beats Boise St. considering that there ranked and very few teams in the past 10 years came away with a win, that will impress pollsters and we should be back in the rankings or close too it.

  • EdCullen Orem, UT
    Sept. 18, 2012 10:35 p.m.

    I expect a tough fought game. If BYU had a better offense, I'd go Cougars, but I think it's a toss up at this point.

  • roxy34 BOISE, ID
    Sept. 18, 2012 10:16 p.m.

    BSU is going to crush BYU. Spin it any way you can, Cougar fan. Whatever helps you sleep at night. . .

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Sept. 18, 2012 7:55 p.m.

    It's pretty clear that bYu fans have been sold a bill of goods for the past 7 years. Some how theor coach can 1-8 against Utah and TCU and still keep his job by beating Idaho st.

    Wake up people. your programs is crumbling.

  • WhatsUpDoc Draper, UT
    Sept. 18, 2012 7:53 p.m.

    I like the part that says that Coach Peterson is relentless in learning about his opponents and adjusting. He doesn't say every game is "just another game."

    Bronco has a lot of good qualities. Getting fired up for big games and making adjustments isn't one of them. To say every game is "just another game" doesn't recognize there are big games that can make or break your season or get a program to the next level. I thought Utah would beat the Cougs based on home field and the "just another game" approach.
    Unfortunately I think Boise State will win this week for the same reasons and Bronco's inability to adjust. BYU will not bring a sophisticated passing attack as Doman has promised for two years but will run an antiquated unimaginative option offense that is anything but tradition at BYU. I want the Cougs to win as much as anyone. Bronco's record in big games is abysmal. Every year, despite stated objectives otherwise by Bronco himself, BYU is out of the national conversation by the second of third game of the season because of the "it's just another game" philosophy.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Sept. 18, 2012 7:46 p.m.

    Who's picking BYU here?

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Sept. 18, 2012 6:46 p.m.

    Let Bronco coach the defense and hire a real head coach who can do what Peterson has done. Fire Doman and find a real OC with experience this time. I'm tired of watching the same old uninspired games every week. I actually fell asleep during the 3rd quarter last week.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Sept. 18, 2012 6:30 p.m.

    It's a tough turn around for BYU this Thursday. But I would not be shocked if they won.

  • Tiger5 Cache county, USA
    Sept. 18, 2012 4:50 p.m.

    Let's be honest, Coach Mendenhal is a subpar coach at best.
    I see him trying to act like Edwards, which isn't the same.
    Edwards played the best players, and loved him.
    Doman, that's a whole different issue.
    He is not much of a coach.
    This team needs Andy Reid.

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    Sept. 18, 2012 4:38 p.m.

    Please note, that my prior attempt to post I used the word crush. Ds denied it regarding it a bad language
    So let me restate this.
    Bsu and byu will be a barn burner.
    A year ago, bsu would smash byi 50-7

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Sept. 18, 2012 4:29 p.m.

    caleb in new york
    Glen Cove, NY
    boise state has been very impressive, but its pretty clear that their impressive 75-3 home record is substantially influenced on the fact that they've mostly been playing in the watered-down WAC for the past 10 years and that its hard for them to persuade top-notch BCS teams to come to Boise for a non-conference game.


    Oh please.
    Just gloss over BYUs performance and who they have played the past ten years. They did not build a WAC legacy for nothing.
    BSU goes anywhere to play big time schools.
    BYU goes anywhere to play schools on the road like New Mexico St and San Jose St.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Sept. 18, 2012 4:16 p.m.

    So Peterson feels it is the coach's responsibility to lead and motivate. He also believes that the most talented players should play. Maybe some day Bronco will try this approach.

  • cdchttrtn meridian, idaho
    Sept. 18, 2012 3:14 p.m.

    This game between BSU and BYU is going to be a tough game for the cougars. BSU is the bested coached team in college football. Their offense is fun, fun to watch and they are so much more creative than BYU. They have a new offensive line this year and they are head and shoulders about BYU's new offensive line. It all about coaching people up and BYU doesn't have that ability in their coaching staff. BYU is not smooth in any part of their offense. Their play calling is horrible. During the Utah game when they showed Dommon on T.V. he looked like a deer in head lights. Every team in country can open up a hole for the backs to run, except for BYU. IT's like 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Very, very seldem do they open a good hole to run through. I'm a big BYU fan and it doesn't look good for the cougars Thursday in Boise. I hope I'm wrong.

    Sept. 18, 2012 2:55 p.m.

    It is looking more and more like the best team in the state is Utah State. BYU and Utah both have more talent but Utah State gets the most out of every player. USU has a great coach. I just hope they can keep him.
    I hope BYU can get it going against BSU or it might be a long year. This is the bad thing about not being in a conference. Others teams lose a game and they still have their conference season to look forward to. BYU loses and it just plain hurts.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Sept. 18, 2012 2:53 p.m.

    This analysis was so far superior to the fawning slobber job that the utah insider gave last week that there isn't even a comparison. He simply stated the strengths and weaknesses without the ridiculous clams of there being an "embarrassment of talent" or other such over the top hyperbole.

  • IndeMak South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 18, 2012 2:51 p.m.

    BYU needs emotion. I think Van Noy and Nelson are the only players that showed any sort of passion during the game last week. The only time Bronco showed emotion was when he was on the field pleading for a penalty against the Utah fans and the time he went after the Utah fan after the game.

  • Bear Somewhere, UT
    Sept. 18, 2012 2:27 p.m.

    BYU's defense is good enough to beat every team on its schedule. What they need is an offense that can score a few points and not make mistakes that lead to short fields or opposing defenses scoring. This means not snapping the ball until the quarterback is done calling the audible, not throwing picks on your side of the field and stop with the false starts. Execution is the key.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Sept. 18, 2012 12:26 p.m.

    What now?

    Should and would are two different things. Man I'd love to see the team we are CAPABLE of being Thursday night. But every fan has the same wish.

  • Bob Ross Reality, WI
    Sept. 18, 2012 12:25 p.m.

    BYU has looked very beatable by two very weak teams and lost to one average team this year. If you buy into the argument that BYU beat themselves in SLC...that means they have looked very beatable by THREE very weak teams.

  • Bob Ross Reality, WI
    Sept. 18, 2012 12:23 p.m.

    BYU has looked beatable by two very weak teams and lost to an average team this year. If you buy into the argument that BYU beat themselves...they have looked very beatable by THREE very weak teams.

  • cork Murray, UT
    Sept. 18, 2012 12:19 p.m.

    The Cougars have proved once again that they lack mental toughness - always have, always will. Something about the program, the coaching, and players who are great people but too few of whom just never ever had the mental toughness to compete at levels we have come to expect. Wish it were different but it will in reality never change. They'll beat up on lesser foes who can't compete physically but they'll never be an elite group that can consistently win big, tough games against big, tough foes.

    Not saying by any means that the Utes are any great shakes either, but they are coached differently - enough so that they can win big games while turning around and losing to patsies. Two wannabe schools that aren't ever going to make it, regardless of conference affiliation - or lack thereof.

  • Arynen Midvale, UT
    Sept. 18, 2012 11:43 a.m.

    WHAT NOW?, did you even see the game on Saturday vs. Utah? I love my Cougars, but if they can't play with mental toughness, BSU is gonna walk all over us. Here's to hopin' it was just a rivalry thing and BYU gets it together for this game.

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Sept. 18, 2012 11:00 a.m.

    BSU looked very beatable Saturday against a weak team.
    BYU should beat BSU by at least 30 points.

  • caleb in new york Glen Cove, NY
    Sept. 18, 2012 10:35 a.m.

    boise state has been very impressive, but its pretty clear that their impressive 75-3 home record is substantially influenced on the fact that they've mostly been playing in the watered-down WAC for the past 10 years and that its hard for them to persuade top-notch BCS teams to come to Boise for a non-conference game.