College financial aid heats up as Love-Matheson campaign issue

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  • owlmaster2 Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 12, 2012 9:16 p.m.

    I want to see Mia Love's birth certificate.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 6:46 p.m.

    To crodier 4:46 p.m. Sept. 11, 2012

    What is REALLY said is the fct that you are calling telling the truth about Mia Love "the politics of fear and dirty campaigning. It's not.

  • crodier LAYTON, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 4:46 p.m.

    Matheson is confusing reform with repeal. Love means to cut the waste out of federal education programs not to end them, but to assure their longevity for generations to come.

    It is disappointing how Matheson has gone from being non-partisan and diplomatic to the politics of fear and dirty campaigning.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 4:22 p.m.

    "Mia Love is right to say we can't have sacred cows, and she would be able to vote accordingly."

    Oh really? So what cuts to the military has Love proposed? Foreign Aid? What about "cuts" in the form of oil subsidies?

  • sherlock holmes Eastern, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 9:25 a.m.

    I like Matheson, but not impressed with his politics. He claims to be all about debt reduction, but when when federal programs are considered for reductions in funding, he says "we can't cut that one." And so it is with all the dems, and some republicans. This current group in Washington are not going to start doing things differently. Their track record speaks for itself.

    It is time to consider across-the-board cuts in all programs. All can give a little.

    Mia Love is right to say we can't have sacred cows, and she would be able to vote accordingly.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 8:21 a.m.

    You know what we call folks like Mia Love?


    She was fine with the government subsidizing (and still doing so) her loans. But in order to become elected, she has declared "war" on the benefits that she (still) uses.

    Nothing is straightforward from her. Everything is hypocritical.

    Do as I say, NOT as I do.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 8:17 a.m.

    "I agree that that the federal government should not insure student loans. It is possible to go to school debt free by working part time and going to a local school."

    When was the last time you checked the local tuition and textbook costs? Add in apartment, utilities, food, and transportation. When was the last time you checked these costs?

    When was the last time you worked a "part time college job?"

    Please respond.

  • isrred Logan, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 9:38 p.m.

    "Ya know, Jim, why don't we cut congress' pay so teachers, officers, and other NEEDED services don't have to be cut. Lead by example."

    Matheson has fought against Congressional pay raises every time they have come up for a vote.

  • peter Alpine, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 6:33 p.m.

    Ya know, Jim, why don't we cut congress' pay so teachers, officers, and other NEEDED services don't have to be cut. Lead by example.

  • jim l West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 5:26 p.m.

    Why did jim m. wait until he was sure that they had enough votes to pass obama care to say he was against it? He should have come right out in the beginning and said how he felt. Truly believe that he got a free pass from the pres and nancy P. to vote against it.(but only after there were enough votes to pass). Thats a fact.

  • luv2organize Gainesville, VA
    Sept. 10, 2012 5:14 p.m.

    I agree that that the federal government should not insure student loans. It is possible to go to school debt free by working part time and going to a local school. Whoever thinks it is an OK idea to give 17-18 year olds and up all the money they need for school seems slightly insane!

    Reasonable Person - she is trying to help people avoid the debt pitfalls that she got herself into. Isn't that what we do as we age - give advice and try to help others not to follow in our mistakes?

  • carman Wasatch Front, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 4:57 p.m.

    P.s. when we subsidize education, a service with a relatively inelastic demand curve, most of the benefits accrue to the professors, administrator, publishers and landlords who service that sector. Want proof? Look at how much the massive increase in post-secondary subsidies has done to reduce the debt burden of those exiting college. In fact, the steep demand curve has allowed prices to rise faster than wages and the broader economy for decades, and has left students with historic, record debt - in SPITE of the taxpayer money dumped in. Who won? You guessed it. Professor, admin, college president, etc wages and benefits have also risen faster than inflation, as have rents in college towns.

    Mia love is on the right track. Absurdly, the rapid rise in college costs will only be tempered when we let e market determine the price again.

  • carman Wasatch Front, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 4:50 p.m.

    Matheson is part of the problem. No one wants to give up funding for their pet cause - police subsidies (when did this become a federal issue?), education (when did this become a federal issue), etc. When anyone proposes changes to our budget in an effort to stem the tide of our 16 TRILLION DOLLARS of debt, the LIBS callously blame the, for hating teachers, babies, nuns and every other beloved group.

    Folks, we owe the world trillions of dollars. Debt rarely ends nicely -and when it does, it is because the debtor stands up, clamps down, and makes the hard decisions required to pay off the debt. Wake up America. Not only are you selling you children and grandchildren down the river, you are endangering our nation and way of life.

  • Richard Allan Jenni Springville, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 4:42 p.m.

    I happen to like Mia Love. As a stateswoman, I'll admit she's a work in progress- but every time I hear her speak, she is better than the time before. I like her sense of fiscal responsibility- something we need in Washington. I like her no-nonsense dedication to conservative values- and her true patriot heart.

    Now I will speak to Mia directly.

    The folks who don't like you, Mia, probably didn't like Clint Eastwood's appearance at the RNC either- which I thought was pure political genius, by the way. Mia, tens of thousands of Americans adore you just the way you are- so keep fighting for us. Keep your chin up and keep smiling when thinly veiled racial comments reach your ears. I pray you win this election- and I am convinced America will be a better place if you do. You have been a popular person on my website Real Conservatives, and I heartily endorse your candidacy. May God forever bless you and your family. RAJ

  • jpjazz Sandy, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 4:40 p.m.

    Rep Mattheson has served well for 6 terms in the House, it's now time he tries something else lest he become a lifetime bureaucrat. Take a job in the private sector and come back in 6 years to run for Sen Hatch's seat.

  • danielgeery Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 3:02 p.m.

    I applaud Matheson for wanting to make higher education more affordable. I would go a step further and make it free for all deserving students, who show a genuine interest in such education. Educated minds are our country's greatest resource. Merely by cleaning up government waste, tax giveaways to banks, and ending wars of aggression this should not be a difficult matter. For more on my views and run for U.S. Senate on the Justice Party ticket, please visit

  • danielgeery Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 2:58 p.m.

    I applaud Matheson for wanting to making higher education more affordable. I would go a step further and make it free. Educated minds are our country's greatest resource. With about 60 cents on every dollar going to the military and countless ineffectual programs that take us nowhere but to create more enemies around the world, this shouldn't be too hard. Given the long list of other wastes of taxes, from giveaways to banks to encouraging offshore holdings and outsourcing, this would not be a difficult task. For more on my vision for Utah, please visit I am running for U.S. Senate on the Justice Party ticket. I encourage Utah and the U.S. to become a serious example of a shining light on the hill...

  • CottageCheese SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 2:56 p.m.

    I worked hard in high school to get a partial tuition scholarship.

    I worked hard in college to maintain that scholarship.

    I spent every day of summer "vacation" working my tail off to pay for the rest of my tuition, books, fees, food, housing.

    When I graduated I literally at $25 in my bank account. Barely enough gas money to go home. BUT, I was not in debt.

    Graduating debt free is a reality, but it takes sacrifice and hard work. Those are lessons that can't be taught in the classroom and lessons that will differentiate me for the rest of my career.

  • andyjaggy American Fork, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 2:01 p.m.

    For everyone complaining about "free stuff" Student loans aren't free, it's called a loan, and you pay them back over time, nor can you get out of them by declaring bankruptcy. The economic investment of helping our younger generation receive a good education far outweighs any "expense" that student loans might cost the government.

    I'm not in her district but holy cow, all I hear is a bunch of typical rhetoric and no real meat to anything she says. She's like a drone that just keeps repeating "personal responsibility" over and over again.

    I really like Matheson. The fact that conservatives hate him, and that liberals also hate him because he isn't liberal enough puts him in a pretty good spot for me. If both sides hate him then he must be doing something right.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 1:17 p.m.

    Has Love taken a stand on anything? I haven't heard anything concrete from her; she's just a new face that, for some reason, is making optimism run high. I'm not convinced she would do anything other than flop if elected and she's not doing anything to change my mind.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 12:59 p.m.

    Gotta love Love's lack of love.

  • toocoolforcoug Woods Cross, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 12:37 p.m.

    The reason tuition keeps going up is because the schools know that students will be able to borrow the money to attend. They are guaranteed payment no matter how high they raise tuition. But on the other hand the cost is not going to go down. They may be able to stop it from increasing but the cost is not going to go down. With the state of the economy and with more than 8 percent of the nation out of work, who can afford to pay for school? It is hard enough to pay for a doctor and put food on the table.

  • Zona Zone Mesa, AZ
    Sept. 10, 2012 12:28 p.m.

    Someone tell me why it's better to have the sheriff's department funded at the Federal level rather than the local level? Why does it need to be done at the Federal level? And does saying you want it cut at the Federal level really mean you don't want the sheriff's department be funded? Let's be real here.

  • aunt lucy Looneyville, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 12:26 p.m.

    At least she is going to the table with the idea that we cannot continue to spend beyound our means. It's going to take that type of attitude to even get us started to digging out of this hole and a whole lot digging is needed. Yes, we will feel the cuts and it's not going to be painless, but getting it done is a whole lot painless than a complete national collapse. Let's see how many kids qualify for a student loan when that happens.

  • Reasonable Person Layton, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 12:23 p.m.

    On Fox News, Chris Wallace questioned Mia Love's credibility.

    She complains that over $1 billion in unpaid student loan debt is threatening our economy yet Mia Love owes between $15-$50K on her own student loans.

    Do what I say, not what I do? Where's that "personal responsibility", Mia?

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 12:11 p.m.

    Mia Love is willing to face tough issues and propose viable solutions.

    In February 2010, Jim Matheson voted to pass a 1,070 page bill he never read, spending a TRILLION dollars we don't have, on projects he cannot possibly identify.

    People may not like Mia Love's proposal to reduce government spending on specific programs, but Matheson has no real plan to reduce spending.

    Sure, every program has a group of people who like everyone else to pay for their "free stuff", but we must accept the fact that our nation is bankrupt, broke, spending beyond our ability to pay today, or for our kids and grandchildren to repay in their lifetimes, for all the "free stuff" already passed out or promised.

    We must stop the spending, and although some will experience inconvenience, or have to pay for formerly "free stuff" the alternative is total economic collapse which will hurt everyone far more than just cutting off free stuff.

    Matheson has to be replaced, even though he is a nice guy, and a member of the endangered "Blue Dog Democrat" species.

  • non believer PARK CITY, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 11:39 a.m.

    Love said her goal is to help states bring down the cost of tuition so more people have access to higher education.
    That is certainly a nice thought, but the cost of tuition continues to rise and there seems to be very little that can be done about that.
    Would be very interested in how she plans on accomplishing this feat? Details details details!

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 11:36 a.m.

    This is exactly what was meant when Michele Obama said, "And he (Obama) believes that when you work hard and done well and walk through that doorway of opportunity, you do not slam it
    shut behind you. No, you reach back and you give other folks the same chances that help you succeed."

    Guess Mia Love would rather slam that door shut.