'Idea about America' at stake in election, Condoleezza Rice tells Utahns

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  • Rosco SANDY, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 6:24 a.m.

    I respect party independence but I have observed none during this or any other election year. How independent is Scott Matheson? Will independents vote with a given party more than 70% of the time?

    I personally think there are bright minds on both sides of the isle that could make positive contributions to much of the legislation that is considered. Unfortunately, most candidates are conflicted and beholden to the party that helps them get elected. I have observed very little political independence over the years.

    I will support candidates that: 1) promise to identify the funding source of all new federal expenditures, 2) commits to vote against any legislation that increases the national debt, 3)supports term limits and 4)eliminates political influence through meaningful campaign contribution reform.

    I am not against social programs that improve the standard of living for members of our society provided it does not damage self-esteem, discourage self-reliance or propagate the idea of something for nothing. Fiscal conservatism should cross party boundaries—no one can legitimately support indefinite deficit spending.

    We should expect to reap what we sow and no more.

  • oneheart WEST JORDAN, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 6:03 p.m.

    Two Amazing Intelligent women that are greatly needed in Office to change the direction of this Country and get it back on track. I believe we need to go without so our children won't. We have been a blessed generation for many previous years.
    Its time to be responsible, get back on budget, and allow for future generations to grow an succeed!

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Sept. 8, 2012 8:56 p.m.

    "Obama has had control of House and Senate. When Bush was president, Democrats had control,"

    If only we could re-write history to suit our narrative.

    But, this is easily fact-checked and it is clearly Wrong.

    Bush had a GOP house and senate for 6 of his 8 years.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Sept. 8, 2012 5:21 p.m.

    IdahoStranger -- perhaps you need to check your facts. When was the last time we had a "U.N." war?

  • IdahoStranger NEWDALE, ID
    Sept. 8, 2012 8:21 a.m.

    ""The world needs America's leadership at this point in time and we're not getting American leadership," Rice said. "What we're getting is the muted voice of America through the security council."

    Yes indeed, our vote is truly muted everywhere in the United Nations, but we continue to pay a large share of the bill.

    It's time to declare our independence once again. We need to withdraw from the United Nations and become our own nation again - do our own thinking and follow our own plans.

    The United Nations is simply the frame work for one world government - Bush's New World Order.

    "Not only does the U.N. not prevent future wars, but it makes it practically certain that we shall have future wars; and as to such wars, it takes from us the power to declare them, to choose the side on which we shall fight, and to determine what forces and military equipment we shall use in the war, and to control and command our sons who do the fighting."
    J. Reuben Clark Jr.

    Soon we will have another UN war where more of America's sons and daughters can go and die.

  • BrentBot Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 8, 2012 6:37 a.m.

    Bush couldn't resist the progressive mantra of spend and borrow, spend and borrow. Progressive Republicans are almost as much as fault as are the Democrats. What is needed is a team which rejects Keynsian economics and embraces Hayak economics. I believe Romney/Ryan will pursue a more rational course in guiding our country back to prosperity.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Sept. 8, 2012 4:04 a.m.

    Now that the country is divided we are seeing too many racial overtones and racial name dropping and racial motivated endorsements which I find distributing, It means that this candidate is suffering from a conflict of interest and her motivation are racial and not impartial as an American like she pretended to be early in her campaign.

    Mia started out sounding like an independent and American but her real nature is emerging and its not a pleasant sight for the public support. Condoleezza Rice is an enemy of the state of the union Socialist and her endorsement really turns us "off" and tarnishes the credibility of Mia Love.

    Since I vote the person and not the party, Mia has just canceled any hope for my help. Budding politicians should be more careful of who they choose to partner with, it can make and break personal credibility.

  • Schwa South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 8, 2012 1:27 a.m.

    "firstamendment" You do not remember clearly. For Bush's first 6 years in office, he had both a Republican House and Senate. For his last 2 years, and Obama's first two years, they were Democratically controlled. Now we have a Republican House and a Democratic Senate.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 10:02 p.m.

    Orrin's six Senate terms and Matheson's six house terms are both six terms. Senators are elected with different criteria and is a statewide election for the position. Congressman get elected every two years and is a completely different game.

    The State of Utah Republican controlled legislature always makes the boundaries change to try to keep Matheson out of sync with his constituents and did it again, even with the increase in House of Representative positions to 4 instead of 3. Matheson chose which district and at that time didn't know he had Mia Love as his opposition.

    Matheson has done a good job but is a Democrat and with Congress potentially going back to Pelosi and the Democrats mean that this is one more seat to lose for them.

    Sept. 7, 2012 9:46 p.m.

    Red Smith:
    If Matheson with 12 years in Washington DC is a career politician, WHAT do you call Orrin Hatch who has been there 36 years?
    Do you also recommend bringing Rob Bishop home?

  • Red Smith American Fork, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 6:01 p.m.

    Matheson is a career politician - Six terms is enough. Let someone else fill the seat.

    Why can't politicians ever go home and back to work place like the people they represent?

    Jim, come home.

  • firstamendment Lehi, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 5:48 p.m.

    If I remember correctly, Obama has had control of House and Senate. When Bush was president, Democrats had control, and pushed the Housing reform that caused the bubble which caused the crash, then, foolishly, we elected more Liberals, who knew nothing about how to run a Country.
    They have printed more money (in China) to reward CEO's and Unions for failure, and the rest of us will have to pay for it. We are worse off than when Obama took office.

    Another thing we could do better without is those thousands employed to mislead about Mitt Romney, and malign his faith and the faiths of others who support traditional marriage. This effort to push a dishonest harmful agenda is destroying families and hurting all of us. Those who push this seem to express little concern for America, or the future of our children.

  • firstamendment Lehi, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 5:39 p.m.

    Go Mia and Condoleezza!!! Set us free from Socialist oppression. We need to be free to work. I'm a Union worker and Upper management can do whatever they want because the "uncertain economic times" make it so we can't afford to strike or look for another job. Once we can work we don't need government to buy us healthcare. We need competition. Real jobs (not the Obama's "good" low paying jobs)are known to illegitimate births, thus lower abortions, lower drug use, increase education, etc.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 5:14 p.m.

    @Baron Scarpia

    "Where was she when her boss was waging two unpaid for wars and cutting taxes to eliminate the surplus left by President Clinton?"

    I think that is a very fair question. I had a real problem with George W. Bush and his spending. It wasn't his fault that we got attacked and sucked into a war. And really, both parties are at fault on Iraq. Both parties, including Bill Clinton, insisted that Iraq had WMD's. However, Bush spend like mad on domestic programs.

    Having said that, Obama has followed the EXACT SAME COURSE! Bush did a timulus, Obama did a similar stimulus. Bush launched a prescription drug plan, Obama launched an even bigger Healthcare plan.

    So the question is this: Out of Obama and Romney, who is more likely to curb spending? The answer is clearly Romney. There is too much comparing Obama to Bush. Both were monumental disasters for separate but similar reasons.

  • Baron Scarpia Logan, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 4:23 p.m.

    "If the U.S. can't control its spending and keeps borrowing money, nobody will look to it as a place of limitless horizons, she said."

    I used to admire Dr. Rice, but I've lost all respect for her. Where was she when her boss was waging two unpaid for wars and cutting taxes to eliminate the surplus left by President Clinton?

    The GOP has become shameless. Absolutely shameless!

  • sergio Phoenix, AZ
    Sept. 7, 2012 4:10 p.m.

    There is no honor in politics; it is all just nasty party politics without concern for the citizens best interest. Either party will scramble support for their candidate even if it is the worst thing that can happen to the community. Voters can not, and should not, trust party endorsements.

  • non believer PARK CITY, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 4:04 p.m.

    This being the same Rice who as Secretary of Defence ignored the warnings leading up to 9/11... The largest terrorism attack in US history was under her watch!

  • deep in thought Salt Lake, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 3:59 p.m.

    I just picked up my Mia Love yard signs this morning. They were nice and threw in an old Matheson = Pelosi sign. :)

    As a member of the 4th congressional district I will be there with everyone I know on voting day trying to get Love elected and return this country to fiscal responsibility.

    As I tell my kids, "There are lots of things you want, but you can't afford them, SORRY!"

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 3:54 p.m.

    Wow, how the mighty have fallen.
    Where was Condi while Bush was causing most of these problems?

    Mia is another Jason & Lee do nothing once elected but complain and maybe give themselves a raise while their at it.
    Something that Jim turned down.

    More stonewalling will accomplish nothing.

  • jpjazz Sandy, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 11:39 a.m.

    Its great to have a contested congressional race in the state. I only wish I were a mile to the west and lived in the 4th district.

    Patriot? Porta-potties, mothers? It must be some code subversive group message.

  • Most Truthful and Patriotic Layton, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 10:52 a.m.

    "$100-per-person luncheon at Thanksgiving Point"

    I hope they can keep that mother out, who brings porta-potties into the restaurant!