Grieving father lashes out at judge, jury, man acquitted of killing deputy

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  • New to Utah PAYSON, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 11:52 p.m.

    Complete miscarriage of justice, the judge made terrible mistakes in not allowing critical evidence. The father is absolutely right to bring this up. The jury may have been influenced by the law student which is a very good point. They should appeal this case. The jury apparently followed the law but the case was not properly presented.

  • Truth Seeker Zion, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 6:34 p.m.

    @I M LDS 2

    As RShackleford said. A lot of the problems is how cases stretch on for years. Just like the killings at Ft. Hood. It has been 3 years and no trial yet. In fact their still arguing if the defendant can be forced to shave his beard for the trial. This could be fixed. Capital Punishment is a joke when it takes 15 years plus to be carried out after someone has been convicted. This should be changed.
    We may have the best justice system in the world but it sure isn't the best it could be.
    Thanks for giving me the chance to whine on. Maybe you can tell the parents of the next person he kills how good the justice system works.

  • Concerned Huntington Beach, CA
    Sept. 2, 2012 3:29 p.m.

    I think that so few Utahans get a chance to serve on jury duty that they don't understand about the law and just because someone tells a story to make himself look good and the other guy look bad, it doesn't make it so. I have served on several juries over the past 5 years and you have to reason. I would like to know how he can plead guilty and then turn around and plead not guilty. I so support the father as well as all of the family in how they feel. That is why I'm glad I don't live in Utah. They don't get to serve on jury duty as much in other states.

  • ulvegaard Medical Lake, Washington
    Sept. 2, 2012 2:37 p.m.

    The anger will do no one any good and will only complicate the tragedies already experienced.

    Somehow, we need to approach life with a level head and even a forgiving heart. That much said, this doesn't imply that we convert ourselves into door mats to be trodden upon, it just means that what ever we do in response to our current situation, we do it with an open mind and in control of our emotions.

    The constitution promises speedy trials, but often times, court dockets are packed with trivial litigation that is sometimes levied to gain wealth and/or vengeance, as opposed to justice. Too often we are our own worst enemy. I wish the family my best in resolving their pain.

  • utah cornhusker NORFOLK, NE
    Sept. 2, 2012 12:59 p.m.

    Feel sorry for her husband and her family. It is sad the way it all.played out. Losing a daughter and a son in such a short period of time. Don't know if perhaps a change of venue might have made a difference. God bless the families.

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 12:58 p.m.

    Despite its flaws, our legal and "justice" system is arguably the best in the world.

    I don't see the grieving, angry Dad, nor any of the cynical commenters here, proposing anything superior.

    But if it makes you all feel better, whine on. Will that give the slain daughter justice?

  • Joe Moe Logan, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 11:08 a.m.

    If the judge's decision to exclude the written testimony of the brother was, as is asserted here, indefensible, then I would assume an appeal would occur and it would be overturned? Otherwise, I have to assume it _was_ defensible, even perhaps required (the judge knows a lot more about law than _I_ do, that's for sure), and it was just unfortunate that the witness died. There is no perfect justice system, other than God's. We just do the best we can.

    I feel this family's pain, and I don't fault them for being critical, but if the legalities are over and there is no more recourse, it is time to try to move forward. I wish them the best.

    One thing I also know, there is no getting off "scott-free," even in just this life. If this man committed murder, in defense of an illegal and debilitating drug habit, and then perjured himself to hide like a rat from a cat, you can know he is near soulless -- and he is, has, and will live a life of personal misery. This is also sad, but he has brought it on himself.

  • Butch70 Spokane, WA
    Sept. 2, 2012 10:11 a.m.

    I agree with the Dad. There was no justice for his daughter.

  • RShackleford Saint George, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 9:53 a.m.

    "Just 4 ½ months after the shooting, Ryan Greathouse, 40, died in Las Vegas of an accidental drug overdose."

    In this lies the problem, these cases stretch on for years: Witnesses forget, remember things differently after a long period of time, Or in this case die. This is the reason for a speedy, fair trial. The Jury made a decision based on evidence that was tainted by time. In this the death of the Star Witness. This is a problem not attributed to just this judge or in just this case.

    The evidence and facts were all there shortly after this crime happened, yet it fell apart with the passing of time. This assures those in the Justice System (judges and lawyers on both sides) a long career with job security but denies the victims and even the accused a fair trial and justice. Don’t blame the jury.

  • EnosEugenius Shenandoah, IA
    Sept. 2, 2012 9:21 a.m.

    Please don't forget that "Not Guilty" does NOT mean "innocent." It means that the evidence presented to the jury, in the jury's opinion, does not prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. I am sorry for your loss; if you don't receive justice in this life, you will certainly receive justice in the next.

  • casual observer Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 8:32 a.m.

    You've made the mistake of believing our legal system is the justice system.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 12:21 a.m.

    @ victim

    Surely you aren't of the opinion that a judge can't make a mistake, are you?

    I wonder why no reporter has put any heat on that judge in Washington State that let Josh Powell have visitation rights restord, only to have him murder his two young boys. Plenty has been said about the WVCPD, the Washington State Child Protective Services and even Steven Powell, but why has no one asked for a statement from the judge about the matter?

    I've seen squirrley things in courtrooms when just watching people work through having a speeding ticket, like one guy getting relief from going to jail "because he had a family" (who doesn't have a family of some sort) after he had a DUI, suspended license, expired plates and no insurance. At the same rime, anyone with a simple speeding ticket paid full price, the difference being the first guy had an attorney who smiled at the judge, who smiled back and said "welcome to my court."

    Some judges sre full of themselves, no doubt. Justice sometimes, maybe.....

  • victimofthesystem nadville, utah
    Sept. 1, 2012 9:57 p.m.

    if he wants to blame he should blame the incompetent prosecutors.