BYU football: BYU Cougars earn convincing win over Washington State

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  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 4:46 p.m.


    Thanks for catching my typo. But as agb and Duckhunter pointed out (and the point that I was trying to make) is that RES IS closer in size to those WAC stadiums than it is to LES.


    Last year, Northern Colorado was shut out and held to 72 yards of total offense by fellow FCS member Sacramento St. The U scored 34 points on offense against UNC. Last year, there were 5 FCS schools who scored 34+ points against UNC.

    So what did we learn about Utah? They were capable of doing to Northern Colorado what other FCS schools had done. Utah's offense looks average, at best. Jordan Wynn doesn't look improved at all, his arm still looks shaky, and that O-Line needs work.

    The D Line looks as good as advertised. Verdict's still out on the LB corps and secondary.

    This Friday should tell us a lot more about Utah, and I wouldn't be surprised by an Aggie win.

    Go Cougars!

  • Proud Ute ,
    Sept. 4, 2012 3:45 p.m.

    Petty is you trying to gin up your team's win over Northern Colorado above BYU's solid win over your conference opponent and dissing Weber State.

    Seems pretty desperate for you to accuse me of "dissing" Weber State when all I did was point out they were a Div 1 FSC school just like No. Colorado and you might wait before you start dissing our victory until after you have yours. You know the old story "on any given day....".

    "Unlike Utah, BYU honors and respects the local in-state schools by playing them and allowing traditions to carry on."

    Now we know what's really going're just jealous at being left behind. Why didn't you just say so?
    Need a tissue?

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 8:48 p.m.

    So, after reading all the comments I have come to a couple of conclusions.

    Utah fans have their own kind of math.
    Utah fans would rather watch their Utes than watch their Utes in the NFL.(Only Directv has the Ticket)
    Utah fans have to make a choice between watching their Utes and watching their Utes in the NFL.
    No matter how he tries to spin it, Naval Vet is always the "frantic and emotional" one.

    Lastly, BYU is for real this year.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Sept. 2, 2012 3:37 p.m.

    Proud Ute

    No one sniveling about anything.

    BYU won its game against a 'glorius' BCS PAC 12 opponent and its referees. When unbiased professional sportscasters make comments about officiating I bow to their expertise.

    Petty is you trying to gin up your team's win over Northern Colorado above BYU's solid win over your conference opponent and dissing Weber State.

    Unlike Utah, BYU honors and respects the local in-state schools by playing them and allowing traditions to carry on.

  • Igualmente Mesa, AZ
    Sept. 2, 2012 9:48 a.m.

    As fans were leaving the game Thursday night at 1130pm, a pickup truck with a giant Ute flag comes barreling past Lavell Edwards Stadium with their winning score of 41-0 over Northern Colorado written across his rear window, yelling and honking some unintelligible remarks.

    Why would someone do that at such a late hour after their defeat of a lower division team? Perhaps they were expecting a WSU win, but had to alter their plans. Sometimes, the lengths that Ute fans go to express their disdain for BYU is dumbfounding.

  • Proud Ute ,
    Sept. 2, 2012 8:51 a.m.


    Playing Weber State will be a fun in-state game for everyone involved... except you. Weber will field a good team, unlike Northern Colorado.

    You realize just how petty you sound here don't you?

    The PAC 12 refs are a joke.

    So you were upset at the refs were you? Maybe they see things not entirely visible to a guy sitting at home watching the game through blue goggles. You won big....what are you sniveling about?

    Gotta go buddy, the Comcast installer will be here any minute. Can't miss the Sept 15 beatdown.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Sept. 1, 2012 9:33 p.m.

    @two for flinching

    How is 45000 to 64000, a 19000 seat differential, "closer" than 45000 to 30000, a 15000 seat differential?

    More utah math?

  • agb Layton, UT
    Sept. 1, 2012 3:36 p.m.

    Two for flinching:


    NMSU and SJSU both have 30K seat stadiums. And not to split hairs, but 45K is closer to 64K than it is to 30K.


    45-30=15. 64-45=19. 19>15. 45k is closer to 30k

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Sept. 1, 2012 3:22 p.m.

    Proud Ute

    Funny, never went to Tulsa and you know it.

    The PAC 12 refs are a joke.

    There's not a team BYU plays this year as bad as Northern Colorado.

    Playing Weber State will be a fun in-state game for everyone involved... except you. Weber will field a good team, unlike Northern Colorado.

    Comcast stock must be going up because of PAC 12 stupidity. Hilarious.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 1, 2012 3:19 p.m.


    NMSU and SJSU both have 30K seat stadiums. And not to split hairs, but 45K is closer to 64K than it is to 30K.

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    Sept. 1, 2012 1:03 p.m.

    @NavalVet "Game attendance was reported at 57,045. LES is reported to have a stadium capacity of 64,045. That amounts to 7,000 empty seats...or 89.1% capacity."

    Oops, you're right...I forgot how BIG LES is. Thanks for reminding me that we actually play in a big boy football stadium.

    U DO realize that RES (45K) is closer in size to NMSU's stadium (40K) and SJSU's stadium (30K) than it is to LES (64K)?

    How very WAC-ish of U.

    Go Cougars!

  • agb Layton, UT
    Sept. 1, 2012 12:30 p.m.

    Naval Vet:

    " I only read the stat sheet on ESPN the next day. And that sheet showed Riley throwing a 9-yd pass, near midfield, with a minute left in the game. "

    Ha! If you TRULY saw the stat sheet like you CLAIM, you would have seen that the pass happened on 3rd and 5, and that same stat sheet showed the game ending 3 plays later. No amount of you "frantic and emotional" behavior can convince us otherwise.

    In YOUR OWN words: "you are a hypocrite. Case closed."

  • atlcoug Atlanta, GA
    Sept. 1, 2012 12:19 p.m.

    I don't think those two holding calls were makeup calls. I was not at the game, but as I watched it, I saw clearly the two holding calls against WSU. Many of the crowd must have seen them too, because there was a clear reaction from the crowd. The announcers reacted to and confirmed the first one. They did not say anything about the second one. The holding took place out away from the line, and away from other players, and the refs would have had to have been blind not to see what was happening. If the two WSU players would have been wrestlers, they would have each received two points for a takedown. Had they not held, the WSU quarterback would have been scrambling, and may not have been able to make those two passes.

  • uteBusters Park City, UT
    Sept. 1, 2012 10:01 a.m.

    Naval Vet

    Your attendance envy is laughable.

    Talk is cheap.

    Until Utah actually BUILDS a 65,000-seat stadium and actually FILLS it year after year after year, all of your "stadium capacity" talk is nothing but a bunch of hot air.

    BYU has averaged over 15,000 more fans at LES than Utah has average at RES for the past FORTY years!

    Over 150,000 more fans attended games at LES in 2011 than attended games at RES. That's a fact. Get over your jealousy and just accept reality.

  • Dennis Harwich, MA
    Sept. 1, 2012 6:12 a.m.

    I can't turn the TV off and stop whining. Tormenting BYU is simply one of my favorite pass times.

  • agb Layton, UT
    Sept. 1, 2012 12:52 a.m.

    Naval Vet:

    I stated the fact: he dumped the ball over the middle to keep the drive alive so they could run out the clock. Myself and another poster have already stated that, you desperately are trying to turn running out the clock into running up the score; so it looks like the frantic and emotional person here is YOU.

    And had they scored in the 4th would you recommend they go for an onside kick a la Utah v Wyoming?

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 31, 2012 11:57 p.m.


    As I mentioned in my previous post, I didn't watch the 2nd-Half. I only read the stat sheet on ESPN the next day. And that sheet showed Riley throwing a 9-yd pass, near midfield, with a minute left in the game. So basically, all I was doing, was stating irrefutable facts. Now if you have a fact to refute, then let's hear it. Otherwise, you're just being frantic and emotional.


    "First, announced attendance was 57K+. That's about 4K short of capacity."

    No it isn't. Game attendance was reported at 57,045. LES is reported to have a stadium capacity of 64,045. That amounts to 7,000 empty seats...or 89.1% capacity. And that's over 3,200 fewer fans than last year's average.

    RES has been at or above 100% capacity in 21 of our last 24 games (since 2008).

  • Proud Ute ,
    Aug. 31, 2012 11:48 p.m.


    Springville, UT

    Proud Ute

    Undisciplined? Seriously?

    You really want to go there with one of your players sitting out the next 2 games?

    I'll type slow you can follow along.
    I was talking about the blatant personal fouls nobody, not even fellow Cougars, are disputing. The couple I saw in the first half were dumb ones and pretty well discussed on the boards so far. Don't be so defensive son. Besides..... I said undisclipined Football, not undisciplined behavior. Blechen did the crime now he's doing the time, what else relevent is there to add?

    Did the Utes play anyone yesterday? I'll ask you the same question next week and through-out November my cable shilling friend. Probably a little too early in your Independance experiment to be calling others out on their schedule.

    Just to throw you a bone though...... I told Dish to take a hike and Comcast is being installed this weekend. I suggest you hurry and book YOUR tickets to Tulsa.

    Go Utes!

  • agb Layton, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 8:08 p.m.

    Naval Vet:

    If you only watched the first half like you claim, please tell us more about how BYU was "running up the score."

    As has been stated above, Riley only threw enough to keep the drive alive to run out the clock.

    So it looks like your "frantic and emotional" [snicker] attempt to accuse BYU of running up the score failed.

  • Eddie Syracuse, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 7:15 p.m.

    The PAC-12....Conference of Champions.

    LOL ! ! !

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 6:15 p.m.

    Bjorn Ultimatum

    Thanks for the nice compliment to BYU.

    And now your question...

    "So why is it that whenever the DN posts a story on my Utes we get endless amounts of trolls saying that we're just "little brother" and "grats on your D I-AA win. lol".

    Well, it's like this...

    People with a brain will compliment talent when it's readily identified, if they have the decency in them. BYU played a good game last night, although there are things to be improved upon.

    In the case of Utah playing Northern Colorado and your concern about the 'endless amounts of trolls' I would say the jury is still out until Utah plays someone in its league. It was a horrible match up and to accurately analyze any performance without truly being tested is pointless.

    The next couple of weeks will say more than this game.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 6:03 p.m.

    Proud Ute

    Undisciplined? Seriously?

    You really want to go there with one of your players sitting out the next 2 games?

    Did the Utes play anyone yesterday?


  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 5:02 p.m.

    Nice overconfidence booster for the Cougars.

  • Jake2010 bountiful, ut
    Aug. 31, 2012 4:36 p.m.

    Best stat of the game is 0 turnovers 2 takeaways. Let's keep that ratio in tact the the rest of the way.... It was that 1st one that took the wind right out of the Wazzou sails...

  • johanBjorn Salt lake city, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 4:18 p.m.

    Nice game Cougars, you looked really sharp, and Nelson is a heck of a leader (though not much of a presence in the pocket).

    Now can you answer me a question? I read every comment on this story and there was a degree of civility in them. So why is it that whenever the DN posts a story on my Utes we get endless amounts of trolls saying that we're just "little brother" and "grats on your D I-AA win. lol".

    Where's the civility?

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 3:52 p.m.

    @ResoluteVoice continued

    As for your other points, I agree, blue zone offense needs to improve, and I feel like our O-Line needs to be more consistent (though it seemed like WSU was committed to stopping the run, which is why our receivers were so open a lot of the time).

    Penalties were a negative; however there were a lot of really questionable calls that went against BYU, and a lot of no-calls that should've gone against WSU (any time commentators are questioning calls, like the ESPN guys were, then you know the officiating is, um, sub-par to say the least.

    But the negatives are good things. It was a dominating win, but there's still a lot that we can improve on.

    Looking forward to the next WSU.

    Go Cougars!

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 3:47 p.m.


    A few facts put your perspective into perspective:

    First, announced attendance was 57K+. That's about 4K short of capacity. Would've been nice to have been a sell out, but not too bad considering the late start on a weeknight.

    Second, ESPN and Sports Illustrated have both written articles/covered the game...I'll take those two over Yahoo, USA Today, and Fox Sports any day. National coverage was fine.

    Third, Alisa averaged 4.2 yards a carry while rotating with David Foote. To put that in perspective, John White IV averaged 5 yards per carry against one of the worst teams in the FCS.

    Fourth, regarding the "Secondary is still too slow despite the box scores" comment. What does that even mean? So our secondary shuts down one of the best receivers in the nation and some of the most athletic receivers in the PAC 12 (as we were constantly told last week) and you say they're too slow?

    I don't remember them ever getting beat, seemed like we had a guy with a WSU receiver step-for-step.

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    Aug. 31, 2012 3:36 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    "If the cougars weren't running up the score, why do the ESPN game stats show Nelson still in the game throwing forward passes with a minute remaining on the game clock while leading 30-6?"

    Riley had a choice between throwing a short pass on third down to pick up the first down so BYU could run out the clock, or throwing a deep pass to an open receiver to put BYU in position to run up the score - Riley threw the short pass, but, of course, you already knew that.

    Even a BYU hater should be able to figure out how hollow the running-up-the-score argument is when the team that is dominating only scores SIX points in the 3rd quarter and NONE in the 4th quarter.

  • Proud Ute ,
    Aug. 31, 2012 3:27 p.m.


    Salt Lake City, UT

    Nice warm up win, Cougars. We had no turn overs, running up the score or on-side kicks. Another in-state team could benefit from the example of sportsmanship.

    I too only watched the first half but congratulate the Cougars on their win.

    Not sure if Cougarista even watched that much of the game or read any of the wrap-ups/reader comments because either his blue goggles were on too tight or he's just in denial.
    Even with the one or two questionable personal fouls and unsportsmanlikeke penalties thrown out there were some I saw in the first half that were indicative of undisciplined football. The Utes had three penalties for 20 yards if I remember correctly, were any of them personal fouls?

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 3:25 p.m.


    Not sure why Nelson was in at the end. Looked like Lark was coming in on the second-to-last series, but then they kept in Riley. However, it was pretty clear we weren't trying to score. It was basically handoff, handoff, pass for the first down, handoff, handoff, victory formation.

    As for the officiating, I have no problem with the personal foul calls on our guys during the WSU Cougars first FG drive. They were involved in some extra-curriculars and deserved the flags.

    I DO have a problem with their second FG drive. The random 15 yard penalty on Spencer Hadley for 'unsportsmanlike conduct' after he tackled a guy for a 4-yard loss and pumped his fist (meanwhile, every tackle the WSU Cougars made, they would all jump around and celebrate on the field without a call). A bogus PI call on a ball that was thrown 30 yards over the head of the receiver (un-catchable, anyone? Not to mention their guy initiating the contact and shoving our guy at the end). Then some random, ghost 15-yarder on Ziggy for a face-mask.

    Just really inconsistent.

    But we got the W.

    Go Cougars!

  • Resolute Voice Deseret, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 3:20 p.m.

    For needed perspective. Approximately 10,000 empty seats. ESPN televised but limited national coverage on Fox Sports, Yahoo Sports, USA Today, etc... Main running back does not even break 60 yards. Secondary is still too slow despite the box scores. Defensive front 7 was excellent. Play calling was suspect in the red zone (stuff the blue zone crap it has been red zone for 50 years) and why the mental lapse in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Too many penalties and mental mistakes. Overall nothing to be excited about, but nothing to be depressed about either. There is plenty of room for improvement before I will get excited. The sad part is there is not enough strong tests on this seasons schedule. It is still going to be a long season.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 31, 2012 2:57 p.m.


    If the cougars weren't running up the score, why do the ESPN game stats show Nelson still in the game throwing forward passes with a minute remaining on the game clock while leading 30-6? As for Utah, Wynn was pulled at around the 12-min. mark, right after his last TD pass; leaving Wilson to finish the game.

    Even though WSU is breaking in a new coach, and a new offense, I had expected a lot more offense from a team whose headliners were (QB) Tuel and (WR) Wilson. It looks like the cougars really MIGHT have a decent defense afterall. The Y dominated that game.

    Finally, stop blaming the refs for cougar defenders committing numerous personal fouls. Those same Pac-12 officials who penalized the Y 10 times, ALSO flagged WSU 8 times. I -- like most other college football fans on the east coast -- only watched the 1st-Half, but the post-game stat sheets indicate the refs were calling it both ways.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Aug. 31, 2012 2:27 p.m.

    Congratulations to the Cougars for a nice win and some creativity in offense that has been missing. I expected at least 3 interceptions by Riley and WSU had the opportunity to do so, but not the talent or luck to pull it off. One other concern was the very poor performance in the blue zone where the Cougars seemed to be unable to score. Still, good start do lets hope good things happen and improvements are made.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 2:21 p.m.

    1) Wish the new Score Board had a section that kept a running total of STATS, like the one at Cal Berkley. How about it Mr. Holmoe---you would benefit by having the fans see how impressive the defenase played as tracked by actual accumulative yards during the game. 2) Wish they could get someone to run the yards and down CORRECTLY. They had a 2nd and 10, then a 4th and 17. What happened to the 3rd down? I have seen for years that the guy who does this is incompetent...get an assistant or a new person!!! There's no excuse for that!!....None!! 3) REPLAY---where is it? That was really BAD---worse than WSU's running game. Get it back, please. Obviouslty this was a first game of the season, but very POOR replay coverage when it was provided.

    Great game. This year has potential. Work on what was wrong (4 trips inside the 10 with only 12 points; personal fouls) and fans will enjoy the game immensely.

    Game, stadium food, and weather were great. (Restrooms need hot water in sinks.)

    PAC10.2 Officials---predictably bad......unfortuneately they enjoy a well-earned reputation.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 1:40 p.m.


    "Uninspired football. I'm guessing this is a precursor of what to expect the rest of the year."

    Then turn off your TV and stop whining.
    You are NOT a victim.

    Nice game BYU

  • Prairie Dog Lubbock, TX
    Aug. 31, 2012 1:38 p.m.

    Do NOT count Mike Leach out. We watched him here at Texas Tech win too many games. Give him some time, He Will get his offense going.

  • Unca Bon OREM, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 12:45 p.m.

    I have to say thank you to all the Ute fans for their classy comments. They are very refreshing in comparison to the dribble sometimes written from a select few of your fellow fans.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 12:31 p.m.

    Nice warm up win, Cougars. We had no turn overs, running up the score or on-side kicks. Another in-state team could benefit from the example of sportsmanship.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 12:21 p.m.

    Thought I would share a couple comments from the PAC-12 blog:

    Leach's first game as Washington State's coach was ... awful. Really, nothing good about it. At all. and
    Making a blowout game even worse were 18 penalites -- 10 for 112 yards against BYU -- called by the Pac-12 officiating crew. About a third appeared to be questionable to bad calls.

    It is so refreshing to be in a conference where some objectivity can be found!

    Sounds like the Y played a great game and it makes one look forward to September 15th.

  • Peter Coyotl West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 12:10 p.m.

    A little too sensitive there buddy? Life is too short to be a control freak.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Aug. 31, 2012 11:51 a.m.

    Mike W said:

    "Solid showing by BYU. Couldn't believe how inept Washington State's offense was... how did Tuel win the QB job over Holliday??? Mike Leach is one of the most over-rated coaches in America, even as a Utah fan it was almost enjoyable to watch the sideline shots of Leach just fuming."

    As a poster WSU ties I did not expect them to win. Leach is in his 1st year as coach.
    Overrated is people expecting BYU to be a BCS contender.

  • Peter Coyotl West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 11:51 a.m.

    The Cougars looked impressive. I hope the Utes are up to the task of beating this team. It will be nowhere like last year's beat down. The Cougars are real.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Aug. 31, 2012 11:47 a.m.

    PAC12 zebras always throw a few league-friendly calls. There were three that were egregious: the delay of game when someone rolled the ball out of a pile, the celebration call after a tackle for loss, and the one where Matthews(?) ran into Jordan on the route then grabbed him and wrestled him out of bounds (they flagged Jordan). They could have called a half dozen more on WSU holding in the backfield trying to protect Tuel.

    This BYU defense is really nasty. Really nasty. Could be a good year. I hope the PAC12 zebras don't screw BYU too badly in the Utah game.

  • Jordan Lynchburg, VA
    Aug. 31, 2012 11:41 a.m.

    Good game Cougs, you guys whooped them! See you in a few weeks, good luck until then, looking forward to a good game. Go Utes!

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 11:33 a.m.

    I liked the new video ribbons, they add to big time atmosphere of the stadium, and the new video boards are awesome - great definition and very bright.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 11:29 a.m.

    From SI's Stewart Mandell who was at the BYU-WSU game (yes, the nation was watching):

    "...the mystique surrounding Leach was such that viewers tuning in for Wazzu's first ESPN-televised game in six years expected to be entertained. They figured to see a shootout. Instead, they watched BYU's potentially special defense become the first in six years to hold a Leach-coached team without a touchdown"

    From the AP:

    "BYU's defense, meanwhile, played up to its billing, holding Washington State to just 3 yards rushing in the first half, and limiting Tuel to 108 yards passing."

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Aug. 31, 2012 11:00 a.m.

    Chris B

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 10:52 a.m.

    Here's my take on the game:

    1. BYU's secondary look good. Better than I thought they would. Much better.

    2. I'm excited for Taysom Hill! That kid will be a beast for opposing defenses!

    3. What's with the PAC-12 refs? I agree that BYU needs to chill out with the personal fouls, but many of the referee calls were blatantly biased.

    4. I don't mind the video ribbon, but it will take some getting used to. The boards are awesome, though.

    5. I don't think it's that our offense disappeared in the second half so much as it was that Bronco doesn't like running up the score. We could have done better, and need to work on blue zone offense, but I think a large part is half-hearted effort to score, since we were dominating them. I would personally run up the score a bit more.

    6. BYU's D as a whole looks great.

    7. Hopefully the running game gets better.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Aug. 31, 2012 10:29 a.m.

    This could be one of BYU's best defenses in a long time.

    By comparison:

    2011 - 30-27 in OT
    Utah - 15 1st downs, 358 total yds, 172 passing, 186 rushing
    WSU -- 20 1st downs, 399 total yds, 337 passing, 62 rushing

    2012 - 30-6 in regulation
    BYU - 24 1st downs, 426 total yds, 303 passing, 123 rushing
    WSU - 18 1st downs, 224 total yds, 229 passing, -5 rushing

    It's only one game, but clearly, BYU's defense last night against Mike Leach's "Air Raid" offense was much more dominant than Utah's defense was last year against WSU's supposedly inferior offense.

  • lasermann Orem, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 10:27 a.m.

    Chris B
    Salt Lake City, UT

    WSU 34
    byu 21

    Chris, did you "mark it down?" I hope you wrote lightly with a pencil that has a good eraser.

  • CT98 Saint George, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 10:26 a.m.

    BYU Defense played just as they were Hyped. They looked great. Hard hits, flying around the field, swarming the ball. Very solid performance by the Defense.

  • Mike W Syracuse, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 10:18 a.m.

    Solid showing by BYU. Couldn't believe how inept Washington State's offense was... how did Tuel win the QB job over Holliday??? Mike Leach is one of the most over-rated coaches in America, even as a Utah fan it was almost enjoyable to watch the sideline shots of Leach just fuming.

  • Utes Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 9:07 a.m.

    I will give props to BYU's defense. Finally, it appears, BYU has some athletic defensive backs who can cover well. I was surprised. Granted, WSU seemed unprepared and out of synch, but BYU deserves some credit - they took care of WSU's all-American receiver, and the pass rush looked good.

    Looking forward to the battle on the hill this year with the U. Should be a close, defensive battle with it coming down to the last minute.

  • Cosmo's Cousin Holladay, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 9:06 a.m.

    We will own the PAC-12 this year. We laid down the gauntlet last night by whooping WSU.

    The Blue has BCS and maybe even national championship potential. Bronco promised an NC and he will deliver. It's a crime Nelson isn't on the Heisman watch.

    We will own the Utes, the Aggies, the Irish and more. The Blue is back!

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    Aug. 31, 2012 9:01 a.m.

    The bain of our defense is usually stupid personal foul penalties. This was the first game so discipline will need to be there against better opponents. That being said, our pass defense must have done well because Tuel had tons of time, but could not find an open reciever.

  • coloradoblue Grand Junction, CO
    Aug. 31, 2012 8:35 a.m.

    One thing certainly stands out from last nights game and that is that we finally have a defensive secondary that can cover and mover. That is a game changer for our defense!

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Aug. 31, 2012 8:34 a.m.

    Worst officiating crew in the nation. When rolling the ball on the ground is a penalty its time to throw away the rule book along with the officials. BYu dominated Wazzu's "Air Raid" from start to finish. And proved they would compete very well in the mighty Pac. Cannot wait to see what happens up on the hill. Doman and the Offense need some work though you can't leave TD's on the field and settle for 3 points.

  • XelaDave Salem, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 8:32 a.m.

    Pac 12- Top to bottom toghest conferewnce in college football- no patsies or weeks off if you play in that confeence- you earn every win

  • Mike in Cedar City Cedar City, Utah
    Aug. 31, 2012 8:30 a.m.

    Need to stop those stupid personal fouls. There is no excuse for spearing and not keeping cool when the opponents bait and invite retaliation.

  • CA. reader Rocklin, CA
    Aug. 31, 2012 8:29 a.m.

    Was it just me or was it BYU's 11 versus WSU's 18? I thought PAC 10.2 basketball refs were bad but this crew was trying to keep WSU in the game. When they made those two holding calls against WSU it was as though they were making NBA-style make-up calls. I hope we don't see those characters again.

    I also agree that we will need to play much better against the better teams we play, especially in the blue zone.

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 8:19 a.m.


    As a seasoned journalist you should know that there is no such thing as a "red zone" at LaVell Edwards Stadium. That term disappeared years ago.

    Agree about that annoying video ribbon and the game clock. The only thing worse than that however, is the continuous use of amateurs manning the cameras from which instant replays are shown. I could not do any better (without some practice) but I certainly could not do any worse. That has been a problem there since the day BYU bought their first video camera. Nevertheless, the quality of the image on those boards is unsurpassed.

    Congrats to the Cougars of Provo and best wishes to those of Pullman on the rest of their season.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 31, 2012 8:19 a.m.

    I see it a little differently, after sleeping on it.

    Good backs, line definitely not gelled yet.

    Much better than expected pass defense, front seven or two or whatever need to generate more pressure on the qb.

    Riley should have no more than one designed run play, and save it for the two minute drill. He will run occasionally on the option and when scrambling. Limit the exposure.

    Its nice to have receivers willing to pay the price to catch the ball again.

    Riley played better than some posters are giving him credit for, not as well as he will need to play at Utah, Boise, ND & GT. Assuming they pan out to be good teams.

    Fine tune it in time, and this team could be very good. Still don't know if wazzu was bad or we were good, but I think wazzu was better than last year. One more piece of evidence that RES could be in for a rude awakening.

  • eljefeBYUfan Denver, CO
    Aug. 31, 2012 8:12 a.m.

    I carefully "marked it down" several times. I went back and looked at what I had "marked down." In every instance, BYU was supposed to come out on the bottom. What did I do wrong?

    Go BYU!!!

  • TXBYUFAN Spring, TX
    Aug. 31, 2012 8:00 a.m.

    Can anyone tell me where the offense went in the second half? Was the horrible offensive play in the second half by design? They looked great first half.

    The offense won't get away with one half of play against teams like Boise State, Notre Dame, Utah, etc.

    Maybe it was just Doman not wanting to show too much since the game was obviously in hand at that point.

    If Riley keeps playing as reckless as he did last night, he's going to throw a lot of interceptions and likely get hurt.

    Good win for an opening game. We'll go 2-0 for sure. Then we've got BSU and the U. They need to step it up.

    Go Cougs!!

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 7:43 a.m.

    These PAC-12 teams are amazing. The Conference of Champions!!

  • Coach Biff Lehi, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 7:13 a.m.

    Mark it down....

  • oldcougar Orem, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 7:13 a.m.

    rightascension: I agree that the lighted banners are horribly obnoxious. And, the down and distance display is way too small, while the game time clock display can be seen from Salt Lake! However, the new boards, with a few adjustments, are awesome. The video capabilities and quality of the graphics are wonderful!

    Nice game Cougs...a few things to iron out, but good first game! We'll have to get way better to beat the Utes.

  • Guam_Bomb BARRIGADA, GU
    Aug. 31, 2012 7:13 a.m.

    BYU defense seemed to tighten up in the Red Zone in the first half. I wasn't able to watch the whole game, but I watched for a while right before half and WSU looked confused. The O line was missing reads and blocking assignment which led to a couple sacks. Don't know if that's because of the new system or Bronco's blitzing packages. We'll see next week if the defense can continue to bring pressure

  • Cougs Guy Sandy, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 7:06 a.m.


    Prime time is not 8:30 PM Mt. time. I thought Wash. St. would put up more of a fight, but you get what you get sometimes.

  • Dennis Harwich, MA
    Aug. 31, 2012 5:50 a.m.

    Uninspired football. I'm guessing this is a precursor of what to expect the rest of the year.

  • Archer Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 31, 2012 5:27 a.m.

    Go Cougs!

  • Ironhide Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 2:48 a.m.

    I'll take it for an opener. Brandon needs some work in the red zone calling plays, but in general it was a good performance. Since there was really only one way WSU could move the ball I will make one comment about it. I'm not one of "those" fans that whines about refs...I can't tolerate those that do. I didn't disagree with some of the calls, but when the announcers are bewildered, that's fairly significant. Only reason they got far enough down the field to score is because of the PAC 12 refs help. They certainly couldn't do it on their own.

  • bradleyc Layton, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 1:43 a.m.

    Great way to start the season. Go Cougars.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 31, 2012 1:41 a.m.

    Riley Nelson is the difference. He and his teammates had an off-season knowing and preparing for him to be the leader of the football team. Things aren't always pretty with Nelson, but it's football, who needs pretty. Nelson is a gritty leader.

    I am not a BYU fan, but I kept telling all my Cougar friends two years ago that Riley Nelson should be the guy over Heaps. I can't tell you how often I was deemed crazy for saying that back then.

    Although I find Mendenhall somewhat smug, remember the flack he took for playing Riley when Heaps was the guy the fans wanted a few years ago. Yeah the two QB system was a debacle, but I think Mendehall was a little gun shy to follow his instincts with Nelson back then. I say that because it was obvious he loved the guy (Nelson). Heaps was the big name recruit and Mendehall felt pressure to play him.

    I also said when Heaps was a freshman that he doesn't have the leadership, the spark, and the intangibles for teammates to respect and gravitate towards.

    Riley = BYU being a better team this year.

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 1:35 a.m.

    Good start Cougars!

  • Hatch Sandy, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 1:12 a.m.

    The Cougars are a much quicker and faster team this year. Clearly the fastest I have ever seen. Not sure what will happen at REs though. After watching the game in Provo, it's obvious to win they will need to overcome both an excellant Utah team and also the PAC 12 refs.

  • rightascension Provo, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 12:57 a.m.

    Well, the boys will get dates this weekend.

    As for the BYU stadium,that moving changing advertising strip display makes me crazy. I do not have words to describe how much I hate it.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Aug. 31, 2012 12:49 a.m.

    Good win. Great defensive performance. But the offense has some work to do, especially in the "blue Zone.' The second half blue zone offense was atrocious, failing to capitalize on great defensive and special teams plays. Play selection was poor.

    On the bright side I think our offense is better this year, but Nelson made a number of bad decisions but got very lucky.

    Also why did Coach keep Nelson in in that last series? That made no sense, whatsoever. If I were Lark, I'd be fuming.

  • LovemesomeCougars LAYTON, UT
    Aug. 31, 2012 12:43 a.m.

    To all the dooms day BYU fans that have complained about Independence:

    Can it get any better than this? Prime-time ESPN viewers throughout the country/world watching BYU dominate.

    Looking forward to a great year!