KSL, gay leaders discuss programming decision

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  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 11:07 a.m.

    re: Tekakaromatagi

    I don't disagree. The people who want TV to be more diverse are as pathetic as those who want it to reinforce or teach values.

    TV, for me, is primarily entertainment.

    Other than Headline News (in the a.m.), its almost impossible to find straight news/info without an over the top opinion accompanying it.

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    Aug. 30, 2012 7:59 p.m.

    i think we are missing the point on diversity when we talk about having "diverse voices". A TV show, does not bring or promote diversity. Modern US media is the "belly of the beast" that will not be satisfied until everyone assimilates into their consumer mentslity. If you want to benefit from diversity, i.e. to be changed by being exposed to different viewpoints and cultures, start by turning off your TV.

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 7:03 p.m.

    so every voice has the responsibility to reflect your views? Not sure I understand your point. others freedom of speech does not stop you from using yours or mean they must reflect your views? I think tolsotys point is not that they reflect your views but rather they reflect many different points of view not just your own.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 4:28 p.m.

    would not diverse voices by its very definition include your voice as well as those you disagree with? Kind of the meaning of meaning of the word.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 4:16 p.m.

    "Did it ever occur to you that maybe you do not really represent the majority of people?"

    And did it ever occur to you that so-called "diverse voices" do not inherently do so either?

    As a homosexual: I emphatically reject many of those "diverse" voices who claim to speak for me, because they are often reactionary and hypocritical. Political correctness is NOT the same thing as tolerance and I resent being stereotyped by crude and silly media images, which is exactly why I stopped watching Ryan Murphy's other show; Glee, which is mind-numbingly shallow and patronizing. More offensively, like much of the PC crowd, it thinks of itself as tolerant merely because it hates for fashionable reasons. BAD and demeaning images of gays are even more harmful to me personally than having no image of gays at all. Congratulation to local LGBT leaders for recognizing that trap. (but shame on Ridgely for reinforcing PC stereotypes).

    Here's hoping "The New Normal" does not last any longer than any other KSL reject

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 2:11 p.m.

    @eastcostcoug and DN subscriper

    Did it ever occur to you that maybe you do not really represent the majority of people? Believe it or not their are a lot of "normal" people that enjoy programing that includes diversity. You may represent a majority of the KSL viewers and KSL has the right to make programming decisions but that does not mean you or they are representative of the rest of the country.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 1:58 p.m.

    Why is it always the vast majority of "normal" people who must be made to "compromise" to "accept" behavior and lifestyles they reject?

    The news and entertainment media are far past the point of tolerance and acceptance of "diversity" and are well into the range of advocating behavior that most people reject.

    Just because something is legal, does not make it right, moral, or desirable.

    Entertainment should hold up examples of our best citizens and their behavior, not define normalcy sown to the lowest tolerable denominator.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Aug. 30, 2012 1:56 p.m.

    If the LGBT segment of the population is truly around 5%, then how is that the "New Normal"?? Never before has such a small segment of our population been so over-represented in the News and Entertainment industry.

  • Mayfair City, Ut
    Aug. 30, 2012 12:37 p.m.

    Wow Valerie Larabee,and Brandie Balken. Thank you!! What a most reasonable, gracious and respectful response.

    You mention wanting to keep the dialogue open.

    Anyone would want to do so and would find it easy to do so with those such as yourselves. Your response was measured, amicable, polite and considerate. THREE CHEERS!!

  • JustTheTruthMan bountiful, ut
    Aug. 30, 2012 12:05 p.m.

    FYI - A two year hiatus is hardly the killing of a rivalry... Unless that 730 day absence results ... Oh who are we kidding... Two years on hold will not kill the BYUofU rivalry. If anything it will enhance the hunger once 2016 comes around.

  • Pragmatic Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 11:27 a.m.

    Good job on both parties...nice dialogue..way to go. It's unfortunate that the creators of 'The New Normal' could not make a better product.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 10:36 a.m.

    while I am disappointed that the new normal will not be aired I do respect KSL for meeting with the LGBT community leaders and for being willing to have an open dialogue.

  • John20000 Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 9:11 a.m.

    If most of your viewers would turn the channel, why not cancel a show (no matter what the content is)? KSL has to compete for viewers.

    This whole story is like telling a college football coach in the National Championship game that he has to run a certain play, even though he knows it will lose yardage, because some student club demands it or they will have a protest march at his office. By the way, this student club says not running the play in the National Championship game is discriminating against the wide receivers on the team. And under this coach, the wide receivers haven't received the exposure they deserve.

    Kudos to KSL for having the dialogue. LGBT is losing my respect with stunts like this.

  • thebig1 SLC, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 7:42 a.m.

    thank you ksl now get rid of 50% more of your programing and replace it with some intelligence and I may turn the tv back on

  • Ironmomo Ogden, Utah
    Aug. 30, 2012 12:23 a.m.

    It's great to see communication between KSL's executives and leaders of the LGBT community. It goes a long way in promoting respect and understanding and in lessening the distance between a valuable area business like KSL and the good people of the LGBT community.

    All are to be commended.

    Now can we get BYU's and Utah's people back to the table to discuss renewing the football rivalry.

  • Ridgely Magna, UT
    Aug. 30, 2012 12:16 a.m.

    After all of the anti-gay and manipulative K.S.L. / Des. News Editorials blaming gays and lesbians for religious persecution and the end of religious sovereignty, the demise of traditional marriage and the traditional family, and for pernicious attacks on the Boy Scouts of America, its a disposable 24 minute SITCOM that finally brings Bonneville and KSL to the negotiating table. Seriously?