Utah Utes roundup: Do Utes have BCS bowl potential?

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  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 12:19 a.m.


    Spin it like you want. The harsh reality is that this so called PAC 12 Network will not be as readily available as KJZZ was last year to the local viewer.

    Ratings won't mean a thing if the locals can't watch the games.

    I'm betting those number will like Obama's unemployment numbers... they will be adjusted.


    As usual, you missed the point. When 'theMtn' was launched it was only available on DirectTV and Comcast. I guess the good thing is if Colorado thumps you again, less people will see it.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 9, 2012 10:39 p.m.

    who's bigger BYUtv / ESPN or PAC Network?


    Nice try but PAC-12 also has a deal with ESPN and FOX Sports.

    I am willing to bet the ratings for PAC-12 games will be significantly higher. It's probably why the contract is worth $225 million per year -- or $2.7 billion over the life of the deal.

    What kind of contract did "Notre Dame of the West" get?

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    Aug. 9, 2012 7:11 p.m.

    Springville, UT
    Wallbanger con'td

    "So reminiscent of 'theMtn' when it was launched.

    Where is KJZZ when you really need them?"


    Nice try, but no.

    Yes, the Pac 12 -- home to teams like USC and Oregon -- will do no better than the MWC -- home to crappy teams like Wyoming, UNLV and BYU -- on their TV network.

    Ha ha ha.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 9, 2012 3:45 p.m.

    Wallbanger con'td

    "That's to be expected..."

    Nice excuse, I can tell that it's bothering you that the current information is what many, including myself, predicted all along. it's far from what Ute fans were hoping for.

    It's been two years in the making, Cox Cable is back pedaling, and the network was announced to be ready on August 15th, it appears it will not, but again as I've always said... it could change.

    Personally I am surprised that the satellite negotiations have not been completed. Nonetheless even if they were done, the national footprint is going to fall short of original expectations and that's where this discussion first started... who's bigger BYUtv / ESPN or PAC Network?

    And it's a shame that many of the local Utah residents will NOT have the Utes on their cable menu guide as an option this fall unless they are on Comcast. Satellite owners are becoming concerned. Rural cable tv subscriber on independent cable systems are not going to be happy either.

    So reminiscent of 'theMtn' when it was launched.

    Where is KJZZ when you really need them?

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 9, 2012 3:12 p.m.


    Never been a Ute hater. Just not a delusional Ute fan or believer. I've actually watched more Ute football these past couple of years then any previous time in my life. Actually cheered for the Utes when they had two successful runs these past few years.

    Please find me one comment where I have exhibited hate. I find it so amusing how so many are quick to confuse sarcasm, humor and pointing out some blatant hypocrisy as hatred.

    If you want some examples of commentary for hatred I can surely find some for you. Duckhunter can defend himself but again you are grossly mistaken and quick to judge.

    If you would follow the ongoing discussion of the PAC 12 Network you would know that a good majority of my previous comments on the subject have been spot on. A 35+ yr career in telecommunications helps. You must have satellite, I'm so sorry.

    If we were neighbors we would be good friends or at the least tolerate each other quite well as long you kept your dog poop, beer cans, and kids quiet after 10:30pm if applicable.

    However I would not support legalizing marijuana.

    Go Comcast!

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 9, 2012 6:34 a.m.


    Even IF the Trojans get invited to the BcS championship game, you're delusional if you think the 2nd place team from the PAC South is going to be invited to the Rose Bowl ahead of the 1st place team from the PAC North.

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Aug. 8, 2012 8:29 p.m.


    I'm sorry you are so very concerned about the PAC 12 network. I know, I know, it isn't as cool as BYU's HD truck. But I think it's time for you to come down to Earth. Of course things aren't going to be fully up and running right now or when the network officially launches. That's to be expected. Again, I understand your concern though. I would want to watch real football as well. Or I could tune into ESPN 2 at 8:30 on a Friday night and watch BYU destroy some WAC team or be destroyed by teams that matter. One thing us Ute fans do know, is the PAC 12 Network will work itself out and we'll be fine.

    Another thing we for sure know, and this is as sure as the sun coming up tomorrow. Is that sammyg and duckhunter will never be able to let go of their obsession and hatred towards the Utes and their fans. If you are true cougar blue fans, you are going against everything the Y stands for. Kind of ironic, isn't it? Sad and funny...

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 8, 2012 6:14 p.m.

    Uh....utah has no chance of making it to a bcs bowl this year. They simply are not good enough. It was funny to read though.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 8, 2012 5:51 p.m.

    Uteanymous is confused about how the BCS works.

    Utah doesn't need to beat USC to get to a BCS bowl. If USC goes to the BCS Title game, then a spot is open in the Rose Bowl. Utah could be selected for the Rose Bowl despite the loss.

    It is not unusual for a BCS conference to send TWO representatives to BCS bowl games. That is quite different from when the Mountain West could only send ONE team when Utah/TCU won the conference, or ZERO teams when BYU won the conference.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 8, 2012 4:49 p.m.


    "Glicksman is talking about unranked teams that ARE IN the preseason rankings..."

    Two words: Reading Comprehension

    Glickman's article specifically said:

    "These five sleepers ARE NOT IN the preseason Coaches' Poll Top 25

    Before whining about other bloggers, you should read the article yourself.

    Top 25 Finishes during the Bronco-Kyle era
    BYU - FIVE
    Utah - only three

    Top 15 Finishes during the Bronco-Kyle era
    Utah - only one

    Utah has absolutely NO CHANCE of beating USC to win the PAC 12 South, which is what Utah would have to do to play in a BCS bowl this year.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 8, 2012 4:35 p.m.

    And this just in... the latest PAC 12 Network news from the MercuryNews blogger Jon Wilner...

    "My understanding is that Comcast will provide multiple feeds (i.e., regional and national) to subscribers throughout the Pac-12 footprint.
    In other words: Viewers in the Bay Area will get the Pac-12/Northern California feed on basic (or expanded basic) and the Pac-12/National feed on a sports tier …"

    "Cox has reversed course and decided not to make the Pac-12 Networks available to many areas outside the Pac-12 footprint, even on a sports tier. Some states/regions will have access, but many won’t."

    Well with this latest Cox cable announcement and without a DirectTV or Dishnet deal it's a stretch to say the PAC 12 Network is a real 'nationwide' network.

    Comcast subscribers will have to have a 'sports tier' package to get the 'National' feed PAC 12 Network which is a kind way of saying that it is a subscription service.

    'theMtn' > PAC 12 Network... at least it was available on DirectTV

    As I've said it could change but there are plenty of cable subscribers in Utah that will not see their Utes.

  • Fight On! St George, Utah
    Aug. 8, 2012 1:19 p.m.

    Utah has no chance to make it to the Rose Bowl or any other BCS bowl. Losses to USC, CAL, and UW are sure things, with toss ups against ASU and UCLA, and count on another slip up to one of the 2 in-state rivals or to WSU/Arizona. Holiday Bowl is the Utes Ceiling next season. October 4th can't come soon enough.

  • Jenny83 OGDEN, UT
    Aug. 8, 2012 12:20 p.m.

    Phoenix --- Before you make a comment you should read the full article. Glicksman is talking about unranked teams that are in the preseason rankings (which byu is not)...

  • Jenny83 OGDEN, UT
    Aug. 8, 2012 12:17 p.m.

    Mussing around ----- Utah has had 2 top 5 finishes in the last 8 years and 2 undefeated seasons in the last 8 years..... Plus, they pummled the cougs on their home field last year...And you are beating your chest?

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Aug. 8, 2012 11:40 a.m.


    "Glicksman includes Utah in his list of UNRANKED teams with BCS potential."

    Of course, BYU was ineligible for Glicksman's list because BYU was RANKED!

    Pretty elite company for the Utes though:

    Louisiana Tech (8-5)
    Missouri (8-5)
    NC State (8-5)
    Pittsburgh (7-5)
    Utah (8-5)

    The best 5-loss teams in the country for 2011.


  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Aug. 8, 2012 11:29 a.m.


    As usual, NO mention of the Utes in the national media is ever complete without a comparison of Utah to their big brother... BYU.

    Utah fans beat their chests about preseason rankings.

    BYU fans beat their chests about final rankings.

  • Otis Spurlock Ogden, UT
    Aug. 8, 2012 11:00 a.m.

    The Sports Illustrated article is obviously wrong because they didn't include byu as having BCS potential.

    Sports Illustrated obviously knows nothing about college football.