2,000 'Stripling Warriors' march down Main Street in Bountiful

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  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    July 27, 2012 10:11 a.m.

    Bill, you say the BOM is not a work of fiction. So prove it. Apparently the censors are afraid of this challlange. I wonder why. But prove it, provide any evidence that it is true. And, no, gut feelings don't count.

    But as I was saying before, this should be easy. After all, we are dealing with a large, relatively advanced, society that exsisted for a thousand years, they would have left ample physical evidence of their existence. .

  • Bill in Nebraska Maryville, MO
    July 26, 2012 12:11 p.m.

    You ask why do members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day-Saints get upset when someone portrays the Book of Mormon for what it is a fictional book. The problem is that it itsn't ficitonal. The individuals within the cover of the Book of Mormon are just as real as I am standing here today. It also wasn't written for yester year but for us today. It is another testament of the Divinity of Jesus Christ as Lord, Savior and Redeemer of the World. It is not bigger or better than the Bible but is on equal par with it. And as Joseph Smith so stated, "a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than any other book".

    It has never been proven to be anything other than what Joseph Smith has already stated. The Book of Mormon proves without any doubt that Joseph Smith is a prophet of God, that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day-Saints is the only true and living Church of Jesus Christ on the earth today.

  • skeptic Phoenix, AZ
    July 26, 2012 9:25 a.m.

    Through out history man has always used story telling and fables to teach, train and condition society to good conduct and avoid danger, etc. But grown up educated people recognize it for what it is: fiction, ie: Santa Claus, etc. Then how is it that some people in Utah parade fictitious story people down public streets and demand that they be taken serious. It can not even be established where the Book of Mormon was supposed to have taken place much less show one bit of physical evidence of a thousand year history. The BOM may be a beautiful, wonderful story, but it is not history, so why do Mormons get angry with people who see it for what it is: a marvels work of fiction.


  • raybies Layton, UT
    July 26, 2012 6:34 a.m.

    A very fun idea. What mormon mom and dad don't dream of having a faithful son that serves valiantly and is miraculously preserved by the hand of God? It's one of the great dreams we all hope for--that we're all part of some great miracle.

    Ironically every young man marching, and every spectator watching is just as important to God. We face different challenges and some of us fall, but God wants us all. He loves us all. His mercy and grace extends to all. And God hopes we'll all be just as faithful in seeking to obtain them.

    One great way to obtain blessings for God, I've found, is to daily study the Book of Mormon, and ponder its messsages as they apply to me personally. Every day I get help in my life's direction from God.

    May your cause be just and may you fight for the things that matter most.

  • O'really Idaho Falls, ID
    July 25, 2012 7:15 p.m.

    @ xert- Funny!
    @ chaliceman- War is sometimes necessary to counter evil and to defend one's freedom. Have you read the story in the Book of Mormon? It's less about the war itself and more about young men having courage to protect their parents, wise mothers who taught their sons to have integrity and loyalty, and young men learning obedience and discipline. You've missed the point if you think God was testing the faith of those young men and death was the consequence of lack of faith. I've heard the story 50 times at least and it's never come across that way to me.

    @ skeptic It was three Nephites and yes- different story.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    July 25, 2012 2:54 a.m.

    momofsix, why would you feel sorry for people that are not supportive and positive in regards to the things your family does?

    I could care less about what strangers think about what my family does, in fact I sure hope strangers aren't taking much time worrying what my family does. Why is it important to you what strangers think of your family? Oh, well.

    I think skeptic and LDSareChristen had a good idea. It might be neat to make this a regular event for kids to march in this parade, and then afterwards perform a large scale charity event. The kids might really enjoy something like that. (And yes I know that these kids perform charity events already, and good for them. So relax)

    The story that this is based on seems interesting: 2000 untrained, inexperienced youth fighting a superior, professional force, and the youth win and not even one is killed. Do I have it right? Cool.

    I prefer the story of the knights of Rohan that hold off the hordes of Sauroman at Helms deep, though. Maybe the kids could dress up like the Rohirrim next year.

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    July 24, 2012 8:37 p.m.

    These are the stripling warriors that just may save this nation. Imagine an entire nation of stripling warriors, standing erect on our borders, spears ablaze in the sun, saying to all who would seek to gain admittance, "Thou shalt not pass." Manning our light rail cars and discouraging foul play while spearing bits of litter with their pointy weapons. Policing our slums and saying to those who would think to vote without paid for ID cards---"Vote ye here? I think not, old woman. My temper is steady, but my spear is ever at the ready."

  • skeptic Phoenix, AZ
    July 24, 2012 5:30 p.m.

    Where in the company of the 2000 Stripling Warriors were the two Nephites, or is that not the same story.

  • bountifulmomofsix BOUNTIFUL, UT
    July 24, 2012 1:04 p.m.

    It is true that there are some who will take offense with these amazing boys. Yes, some were bored, it was a very warm, muggy day. BUT they participated to show their support. My boys weren't forced to march, they chose to march.

    The Book of Mormon has many wonderful examples of people who,"Did not doubt". This was the theme of this years parade. Only those who read the Book of Mormon will understand the implications.

    I have found many kind people in every state my family has lived in who are supportive and positive with regards to the things we do. I am sorry for those who are not.

  • Sneaky Jimmy Bay Area, CA
    July 24, 2012 9:42 a.m.

    @Jim. More information on Kapyong please. Sounds like an interesting story.

  • dotGone Puyallup, WA
    July 24, 2012 8:43 a.m.

    I would love to have seen this and get the visual of just how many young men add up to 2000+ We read the story and hear it referred to, until it seems almost ordinary, but to see all the young men would bring it to life. How did Helaman keep them all organized back then!? all that energy of the young. What a blessing they must've been to the tiring troops.

  • chaliceman Salt Lake City, UT
    July 24, 2012 7:38 a.m.

    It always seems ironic to me when stories are told about God sending young men to war. War is so against Christian values and beliefs. What message are we giving to these young men about Christian values and the nature of their God? Of all the themes and stories found in Mormon scripture, why chose one encouraging men to wear their battle gear, yell their battle cry and march in battle formation? Can't we see that when we glorify warriors, reenact old battle scenes and recall the glory of victory in war, we are supporting and promoting war? Not just any war, but war in the name of religion, in the name of God. Personally, I don't think God supports any war and would never stoop to the level where He would use it as a test of our faith with death as our consequence for not believing. An Allmighty, Omnisient, Loving God would never do that to His children.

  • Bill in Nebraska Maryville, MO
    July 23, 2012 6:57 p.m.

    Skeptic: How much do you give to charity? When was the last time you served in a soup kitchen? When did you go and help build a home for the less fortunate? When did you actually serve someone just for the sake of helping them without any regard for a reward or anything? If you can't answer these questions then you have nothing on these youth or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Even Vanka has admitted in many of his posts that he has given fast offerings and tithing to the LDS Church through his wife.

    Many youth through out the LDS Church have helped paint or remodel homes, beautify lakes and many other service projects through out their communities over the past few months. They've done it because it was there for them today. Sure there may have been some who murmured because it was hot or they could have been doing something else but yet they still did it as a group. It was a group thing. I've watched youth do many things just because and not just as members of the LDS Church.

  • Oxymorman KANSAS CITY, MO
    July 23, 2012 1:51 p.m.

    I watched a 7 minute video of the parade; It seemed to me more like 2200 Bored Adolescents.

  • skeptic Phoenix, AZ
    July 23, 2012 1:50 p.m.

    RE: MrsH,

    I can relate to your getting chills at viewing your Stripling Warriors. I remember the first time I viewed the Chinese army of Terracotta warriors; I was amazed. I thought how could this be, and what were they thinking, and did it come to pass that it served the indented purpose. Excuse me, but I can not help but have some doubt. Perhaps all the lives and labor that went into manufactoring the clay solidiers would have been better spend building poor citizens homes and farms.

  • O'really Idaho Falls, ID
    July 23, 2012 12:32 p.m.

    Yes, Red Corvette...proudly in Utah! The parade was in conjunction with Pioneer Day, a holiday to celebrate LDS pioneers arriving in Utah. Since the 2000 stripling warriors is a well known and loved part of the Book of Mormon, why should they not portray it for a parade centered on LDS history. Far more inspiring than a whole lot of other groups portrayed in parades around the country. And also, lest we forget, this holiday is one that the WHOLE state benefits from, LDS or not.

    Thank you pioneers (and young stripling warriors, ancient and modern!)

  • zoar63 Mesa, AZ
    July 23, 2012 12:11 p.m.

    I believe the main point of the story of the Stripling warriors was the effect mothers had on their children in teaching them to trust in the Lord.

    Now they never had fought, yet they did not fear death; and they did think more upon the liberty of their fathers than they did upon their lives; yea, they had been taught by their mothers, that if they did not doubt, God would deliver them. Alma56:47

  • MrsH Altamont, UT
    July 23, 2012 10:36 a.m.

    Skeptic, that's right, because the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints NEVER does anything to help anybody, do they?

    (Sarcasm button off)...seriously, this was such a cool idea. Seeing all these young 'warriors' just gives me chills! And great hope for the future!

  • Bill in Nebraska Maryville, MO
    July 23, 2012 7:33 a.m.

    The 2,000 srippling warriors of Helaman is a great story of faith and endurance in the face of great odds. These were young men who faced overwhelming odds to come out on top. Though many of the warriors suffered numerous wounds and loss of blood, not one of the 2,000 warriors were killed. In fact, they held where others faltered thus preserving their homeland, their religion and their families lives.

    The battle of Kalyong of the Korean War was the most noted for Australians and Canadians of the war. Against overwhelming odds and against superior forces the Australians and Canadians held a vital road closed to the Chinese thus allowing forces to retreat and regroup. They kept the Chinese from over running the area and having a clear shot to the South Korean Capital of Seoul. Their actions basically stopped the Chinese in their tracts thus helping to bring about the armistice that is in effect today.

    Don't mock something you have no knowledge of.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    July 23, 2012 6:54 a.m.

    how do people find this article to be controversial? a lot of whiners and people that are negative towards anything LDS. get a life and do your own thing and do something good instead of criticize.

  • Dennis Harwich, MA
    July 23, 2012 6:00 a.m.

    @Jim, seriously?

    I'm trying to figure out anything that this could represent that has any relevance to anything going on in the world today.
    Are we insinuating that we should arm teenagers with spears to protect our homes and families from the evils of the world? Just saying.

  • Vanka Provo, UT
    July 22, 2012 7:32 p.m.



  • Jim Mesa, Az
    July 22, 2012 6:12 p.m.

    The 2000 Stripling Warriors weren't just a story, it was actuality, that was repeated at Kapyong during the Korean War, just ask anyone from St George or Cedar and the Surroundng area.

  • ILOVEJESUS kaysville, UT
    July 22, 2012 2:06 p.m.

    It's certainly not inspirational for Christian believers. It is a story.

  • Gram Cracker Price, UT
    July 21, 2012 9:53 p.m.

    How very inspirational to witness these great young men all together in one purpose ... to remind us of the 2000 stripling warriors and their history. I always love to read about the stripling warriors, and so too do these young men, I am sure. They will never forget this wonderful day, and neither will those who understand the BOM and what this signifies. I do so wish something like this had been done when my own sons were growing up. Wonderful, wonderful day!

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    July 21, 2012 6:38 p.m.

    RE: skeptic

    Why don't you demand that of the OWS and other liberal leftest protest groups,

    rather than leaving tons of garbage and filth, vandalism and destruction in their wake?

    Make the world a better place should be good for everybody. Not trying use good people and make them into hypocrites or to satisfy some hate or skepticism

  • bountifulmomofsix BOUNTIFUL, UT
    July 21, 2012 4:46 p.m.

    Dear Skeptic,
    They ARE awesome boys! My sons were among them. I happen to know that they do A LOT of service every year ranging from "helping build a home for a needy family" to "helping chop up trees in the community after a devastating windstorm came through". In fact, they chopped, hauled, cleaned up, more quickly than any government sponsored organization could have. They donate many, many hours of community service each year. (And these are just the boys, the men often do more.)
    Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints donate many hours to various church and community organizations every year, all over the world. We may not be perfect people but many of us sure try to make the world a better place wherever we live.

  • Owl Salt Lake City, UT
    July 21, 2012 4:42 p.m.

    Being a moral citizen is a good deed and is not one good deed that meets someone's specific metric, but a life of good deeds. Perhaps that is a foreign concept in Phoenix.

  • LDSareChristians Anchorage, AK
    July 21, 2012 3:08 p.m.

    Wow, what a cool idea skeptic. On the same day as the parade, they could do a couple flash mob appearances to clean up a park, or some other activity. Have someone plan out what every pod will do. Show up on que with everything each pod needs to do the job.... 30 minutes later all depart with a sparkling clean park (or whatever else).

  • skeptic Phoenix, AZ
    July 21, 2012 12:18 p.m.

    Impressive two thousand strong men, perhaps they could do modern day good deeds like build a house for a poor family, or clean up a poor neighborhood, etc.