Utah Utes football: Analyzing Utah's 2013 signing class

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  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 16, 2012 7:13 a.m.

    [Continued]--So how did BYU end up #1? Well, for one thing, BYU was greatly aided by the weekly upset chaos of 1984. Look at the teams in the top 20 and you see only one team with just 1 loss, and one other with a loss and tie. Everyone else had at least 2 losses. The 1-loss team, Washington, lost the Rose Bowl bid because Southern Cal beat them, so they were not viewed as a conference champion (though they were, sharing the title with USC). And the 9-1-1 team, Florida, was hit with probation in September for massive cheating, and no one wanted to reward a "cheater." So the timing was right.

    Of course, in 2007 a 2-loss LSU team was rated higher than an unbeaten Hawaii team that looked a lot like BYU '84, so in the end, what put BYU over the top in 1984 was a zeitgeist thing. Or maybe a mass psychosis thing. In any case, it had never happened before, and it has not happened since, even though there have been quite a few better "Little Big Teams" than BYU '84 before and since.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 16, 2012 7:12 a.m.


    Texas Christian, Boise State, and Utah have been tearing it up over the last decade, but in 1984 Brigham Young did something none of those other "Little Big" teams have even gotten a legitimate shot at: they finished #1. Unfortunately, BYU '84 differs from those other teams in another way too: they did not play a single ranked opponent. The only so-called "national champion" that didn't (though Oklahoma came very close in 1956).

    BYU's 1984 opponents went 61-85-3, placing their schedule 96th amongst 98 division 1A schools. And yet their performance was as weak as their schedule. They won five games by a touchdown or less, from a 20-14 win at 3-7-1 Pitt in their opener to a 24-17 win against 6-6 Michigan in the Holiday Bowl-- by far the worst bowl opponent ever faced by a so-called "national champion." How bad was Michigan? They finished 6th in the Big Ten, and the Big Ten was a horrid 12-15 against nonconference opponents and 1-5 in bowl games. The only conference in the country that was as bad as the Big 10 was the WAC itself.

  • fender Washington, UT
    July 15, 2012 9:01 a.m.

    Rivals lists 3 4* players in its 2013 top ten for Utah and the Utes won't get any of them. Bateman is committed to Alabama, Stott to Arizona and Barton will commit to Stanford. They picked up three 3* players from that group and may get Lotulelei (another 3*). BYU got one (Shumway).

  • Magna Ute Fan Magna, UT
    July 14, 2012 7:57 p.m.

    The Utes just got another one today. Sam Tevi. Welcome Sam! I can't wait to see you playing in Red!

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 14, 2012 1:23 p.m.

    Wallbanger and Naval Vet ...

    SPOT ON!!!!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    July 14, 2012 1:14 p.m.

    CA reader.:

    "How many stars does ESPN/everybody else give them?"

    I don't know about ESPN, but Rivals lists Utah's recruits as four "3-stars" and one "2-star".

    And, as Wallbanger so astutely remarked, the Indy-WACers did NOT "pave the way" for Utah, TCU, or BSU, so don't get all "Lewis and Clark" on US! How could the Y have paved a road on which they've never trod? You make absolutely no sense. The TRUTH is, it was UTAH who paved the road. WE were the "original BCS buster (and winner)". We were ALSO the "original 'repeat' BCS buster (and winner)". Additionally, we were the first BCS buster to play our way into a BCS conference. TCU and BSU were RIGHT BEHIND us in pioneering THIS path. YOUR path was jumping out of the most dominate non-AQ conference in the country, aligning yourselves with the WAC, and then complaining about religious persecution when the Big 12 didn't call. You've been a real "Trail Blazer" down THAT road. And it's a no-brainer as to why nobody is following. USU, SJSU, UNR, FSU, and Hawai'i' LEFT your new league.

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    July 14, 2012 10:57 a.m.

    @CA reader
    "But as previously noted, those BYU Cougars paved the way for the Utahs, Boise States and TCUs of the world. Good luck Utes."

    That is really funny! Please explain how they "paved" the way for all those schools. The only "paving" that BYU did, was in helping the creation of the flawed BCS system we have today, which was a direct result of their weak NC, that was in fact awarded to them and not earned. By barely beating a very weak Mich. team and not beating a single ranked opponent that season.

    So in actuality, BYU kept "the Utahs, Boise States and TCUs of the world" from earning a much deserved NC those years that they actually made it to a BCS game. So thanks for nothing BYU...

  • nosaerfoecioveht NSL, UT
    July 14, 2012 12:33 a.m.


    "I would assume instate players Barton, Lotulelei and Masina will all be Utes within the next month or so."

    Hopefully you're right about the second two, but unfortunately we won't get Barton. He'll go to Stanford.

  • CA. reader Rocklin, CA
    July 13, 2012 8:10 p.m.

    Who are these bums? How many stars does ESPN/everybody else give them? Who else even lightly recruited them? Duke maybe, Iowa State, UNLV, Louisiana Lafayette?

    Just kidding folks. As I have mentioned before, Whittingham can get more out of whoever he signs than most of the high-profile coaches in the PAC-10.2. If he could get some of the players the USCs, et al of the college football world get, Utah would be a force with which to contend on a regular basis. But as previously noted, those BYU Cougars paved the way for the Utahs, Boise States and TCUs of the world. Good luck Utes.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    July 13, 2012 8:07 p.m.

    I got to be honest...I was hoping for a little more action at this point.

    I would assume instate players Barton, Lotulelei and Masina will all be Utes within the next month or so.

    I'm really hoping Utah fills the remaining spots with Texas and Cali recruits.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 13, 2012 2:26 p.m.

    Even the scraps that are left behind from the major programs when everything shakes out later in the process will be guys the U couldn't previously land. So I'm fine with their strategy of waiting on a lot of these guys. Utah will end up with a solid class when all is said and done in Feb.

  • gonefishn Salt Lake City, UT
    July 13, 2012 1:58 p.m.

    Needless to say, the Utes are in the living rooms of some pretty high profile recruits. They may miss on some of these guys but they will get their fair share. I would much rather see them going after the best recruits and have fewer early commits than sacrifice talent just to lock down a recuiting class before labor day.

  • GoGetter Sandy, UT
    July 13, 2012 1:47 p.m.

    Lookin good. I can't wait to see these proven athletes on the gridiron!! Go Utes!

  • PAC12Fan South Jordan, UT
    July 13, 2012 12:17 p.m.

    Speed and Strength.