Utah Jazz fanalysis: Taking inventory of recent moves

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  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    July 6, 2012 10:12 a.m.

    Kanter at PF? Away from the basket, who will he guard and how will he score?

    Replace Jefferson with Kaman? Jefferson plays every night. Kaman may or may not show up and he never plays defense.

    Play the kids? They would be ruined getting their heads beat in every night. And fans would be screaming when the Jazz are 26-56 with Jefferson and Millsap on the bench.

    Jefferson a liability? He's the Jazz' only go-to guy. After four fruitless possession, he can get a good shot. Millsap can't. He gets swatted or takes low percentage fall-aways. Jefferson led the team in blocks; it wasn't close for second place. Jefferson gets as many assists/game as Millsap in comparable minutes. Jefferson has the bulk to defend big centers (Kanter does also). Favors would be physically overmatched.

    When I first moved here in the 1980s, Jazz fans were known around the league for having high basketball IQs. Now it's come to this. Our MVP is the problem. We want to put guys where they have little chance of success. We want an offensive blackhole who has no interest in defense (Kaman).


  • scalman Temecula, CA
    July 5, 2012 9:33 p.m.

    Interesting about Chris Kaman. I've seen him play. He's one of those guys who doesn't seem to get into it much...often shows lack of aggression to the rim. No doubt, he is a decent rebounder. Occasionally, he has a big game stat-wise, but then, not so much. He would make a good backup to Favors at center, though, if Jefferson leaves in a trade. Yes, I'm thinking more and more of Favors at center and Kanter at PF. Favors rules above the rim. I'm already thinking of Westbrook driving to the rim and getting denied by Favors. Yes!

  • cooldoods Singapore, 00
    July 5, 2012 8:27 p.m.

    I think Marvin Williams is a replacement for Josh Howard and Raja Bell, he and Hayward could switch roles depending on where a longer defender is needed. Hopefully Marvin shoots better than Raja did.

    I hear the Jazz are interested in Chris Kaman, he's a good defender and rebounder who can also score. If they can get him, the Jazz would probably trade away Al Jefferson who's been accused of being a black hole on offense. This will enable Derrick Favors to develop more quickly. Millsap could go back to being a starter at PF.

  • EducateMe SANDY, UT
    July 5, 2012 2:52 p.m.

    Jazz have a deep team that could take them far this season. If not at least the Jazz have a lot of money coming off the books after this coming season and they can pick and choose who they want to go forward with.

  • EducateMe SANDY, UT
    July 5, 2012 2:52 p.m.

    First off Big Al isn't that bad of a defender, if he plays one on one or against bigger guys like Bynum or Dwight. The reason Big Al looks bad on D is that we have no perimeter defenders to keep the guys out there and Big Al is slow to stop them all by himself. Its hard to ignore his offensive numbers when he puts up 20/10 a night. He does need to keep the ball moving or shoot quicker instead of standing there waiting for the shot clock to hit 1.

    Second, Milsap can play the 3 position on offense not on defense. Milsap doesn't want to chase guys like Durant and so forth around all night on the perimeter.

    If Milsap and accept his role and come off the bench then he can still keep playing the 4 until the fourth quarter, especially in close games. Just think of a bench with Watson or Tinsley at PG, burks at SG, Milsap or another signing at the 3, Milsap at 4, and Kanter at the 5.

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    July 5, 2012 2:02 p.m.

    @ A K Fan

    For reals man?

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    July 5, 2012 12:51 p.m.

    Reports are saying the Jazz are in the hunt to sign Kris Kaman. Hmmm. Sounds to me like Big Al could be on the move. I think big Al "IS" the log jam because he has to start and has to play center. I think the right four or five big men can co exist if they know their roles on the team.

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    July 5, 2012 11:56 a.m.

    I have read on these blogs where some people think KOC is a genius and other state he is incompetent. With this teams current make up, I prefer to think the latter.

  • Ak Fan Hamburg, GE
    July 5, 2012 10:36 a.m.

    Hello guys. Ak coming to town.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    July 5, 2012 9:13 a.m.

    The Jazz have to play the young guys for these reasons:

    1- There are only four ways to get better: Draft, Trade, Free Agents and developing your talent.
    2 - Get the youngsters experience. You don't get better without PT. The Jazz blew a great chance to develop the young guys last year because not only didn't they play them, they had no chance to practice them during the compacted season. Last year they could've played them lots during a shortened season, and their fresh legs would've overcome more experienced players' fatigue.
    2- No top-tier free agent is going to want to come here unless they see the young guys have potential.
    3- It is very possible the Jazz blew their best chance of a good draft by missing out of the lottery last year, so developing talent and attracting free agents requires PT.

  • fortydam OREM, UT
    July 5, 2012 8:47 a.m.

    I think Kakashi's comments are right on! Anyone who thinks Jefferson is good for this team must not be watching him on defense. There is a reason he has been traded so often in is relatively young career. The Jazz need to show DF he is the future. I think Millsap moving to the three was brilliant last year, and Millsap needs to understand that. I also read that Sap is looking for a huge max money extension that will make this decision for the Jazz. I also think that we are over looking the possibility that Jefferson will have more health issues. He is already showing signs that he will be a IR risk in the future, something SAP has never been. This team still lacks a true starting point guard! Mo was let go because he was a tweener, like Harris, like Ronnie Price. I'd say trade Jefferson and use the money to extend Sap and hope to get a true point guard. Play Mo at the two and back up point. Is this team planning on playing Burks at the point? I like Burks!

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    July 5, 2012 1:40 a.m.

    Obviously Mo Williams starts at PG. Tinsley or Watson get back up minutes (tough call) but maybe Burks plays minutes there as well. That way, if he backs up Hayward at SG, he still gets close to 25 minutes. Those minutes might not be enough for Burks though.

    Burks is developing quick and will have summer league and camp this year (no lockout issues). The second year guard could play alongside Hayward if Gordon jumps to SF. Problem there is Hayward is really a SG. Burks is definitely a SG. There is wing confusion.

    The Jazz also have issues at both forward spots the way the roster is currently constructed. Marvin Williams will need to play SF (PF log jam). If Hayward does slide over (SF), Marvin's minutes will drop. That's not good, so Burks needs grooming at the point. Hayward could split time at SG and SF so that Burks gets more minutes. But if Gordon gets hurt, then the Jazz have lost a big minute guy at two positions.

    The SF position was without quandry. Now with Marvin starting, who backs up? Resign Josh Howard? Kirilenko with a price reduction? All positions log jammed now.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    July 4, 2012 10:46 p.m.

    i think its more wise to deal Al Jeff since he had a good statistical season last year...and getting a role player for the PF/C slot...since we want to develop Kanter and Favors as the Future C and PF respectively...We need to show Favors that he is wanted and needed here in Utah...or else he would bolt...when some team...gives him a huge contract...we want our youngsters to know that right here is there future and right here they could win a championship...that being said...we cant win with Al Jeff...people who are saying that it is because of Al Jeff why we got into the playoffs...clearly haven't watched the games...box score statistics is very shallow...and it doesnt show how big of a liability he is...we need a PF/C who would thrive as a backup...with no qualms of starting or not...i thought Millsap would be that guy...but apparently...he would prefer to start...i say..Deal Al Jeff now...then Millsap later...

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    July 4, 2012 4:48 p.m.

    As KOC has said many times, you can't ever have enough big men. Well, the Jazz do now, but, as you pointed out, they have two undersized big men in Millsap if he plays PF and Jefferson if he plays center. I think that Millsap's minutes will definitely go down this coming year, but who knows what will happen during the next few months. Right now, I see Jefferson starting in front of Kanter at C, Favors starting in front of Millsap at PF, Marvin Williams starting at SF, Hayward at SG and Mo at PG. Burks and Kanter should be a load for the others to try and handle in practice, as their impatience at not starting grows.

  • nothegame Saratoga Springs, UT
    July 4, 2012 3:57 p.m.

    I agree with u Meadow but as we saw last year that was not the case. In the 4th quarter no matter how good DF was playing PM or Jefferson would come back into the game. It also took R Bell getting injured before Burks was given more time. So i look at it like this Ty has to do a better job with the talent he has. 2nd i think we need to something different with the 4 and 5. Someone needs to go.

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    July 4, 2012 3:56 p.m.

    The NBA is a game of nightly matchups. Never especially here in Utah with the talent that is as competitive as it looks should there be a "set in concrete" starting lineup. The more balance the better in my opinion.

  • Meadow Lark Mark IDAHO FALLS, ID
    July 4, 2012 2:12 p.m.

    Opinions are great. The Deseret News just recently published an article talking about the many players that can now play more than one position. So why not just put the five best players on the floor for the given situations the Jazz players will find themselves during a game.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    July 4, 2012 1:48 p.m.

    There's nothing wrong with a logjam. It will make the players earn their time instead of feeling entitled to a certain number of minutes. And the adversity will show what kind of PEOPLE populate the Jazz roster.

    Last year proved that Raja had picked up an entitled attitude somewhere in his career. When he wasn't earning his minutes, he showed his true colors when under pressure. Corbin started him much longer than any fan wanted Bell to be starting. Yet, even then Bell felt he should get minutes without earning them.

    Tinsley also showed what kind of person he is. He never moaned or complained. While on the bench, he still encouraged and taught the other players, even those taking minutes at his position. He must have been working hard in practice because he was ready when his time came. He was consistently gracious and humble through all he went through last year. I opposed his signing in 2011. I was ecstatic about it in 2012. If I had a young son, I'd want him to be like Tinsley, not Bell.

    How will our other players react? Let's find out is my opinion.