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During the Revolutionary War, there were Tories and Patriots.Tories
sided with the ruling party - the Crown. Patriots opposed.Tories
compromised. Patriots fought.Tories were generally older. Patriots
younger.Tories were cautious. Patriots bold.Tories were called
"Loyalists." Patriots were "Revolutionaries" or
"Rebels."Tories made money because of relations with the Crown.
Patriots lost money.Tories were about 20% of the population. Patriots the
balance.The actors are different, but the play is the same."Tories" are now the majority. Patriots are hard to find.
sg - before you post you should do a little homework. Hatch opposed both Kagen
and Sotomayor. He has consistantly opposed cap and trade. If the facts are so
incorrect it makes your opinion useless. The fact that you are from out of
state makes it even worse.
He just needs to say what they want to hear so he can wheel and deal for the big
Swede 1952....that is my point exactly!!! Dan RESIGNED to run for another
office, without finishing the commitment he had made when people voted for him
to serve in the State Legislature!! My concern is the implication of using his
elected position as a stepping stone to Washington, rather than finishing the
job he was elected to do!! That sounds too much like a man who just wanted to
take a Step Up, rather than serve where he was elected to serve. I feel a
little "used" after supporting him in his state election and won't
make that mistake again.
swede1952: Congratulations on an intelligent post rather than a cut and paste.
It has been obvious that you like Liljenquist from all of your participation.
Now it is obvious that you have a personal connection with his family and that
is the main reason you support him.You also finally see what happens
if someone only points to one side of the issue rather than presenting both
sg your information is inaccurate. Hatch did not vote or support Kagan because
she did not have any judicial experience.And why should your
opinions matter to Utahn's when you live in California?
Re: sg newhall, CA"Thanks Frank Moss...er I mean Hatch, the man out of
touch with Utahns."Hatch will win the primary tomorrow and the
senate race on November 6th. Sounds like he's in touch to me.
Remember folks, Hatch approved the nomination of Kagan and Sotomyer. He approved
every hike. He was for cap and trade. This is a man who has become the
establishment. I haven't seen him fight against the oppression of Obama and
his cronies. To give this career politician one last 6 year term is ridiculous.
Why are we to believe that he can do better during his 'last' term? He
can't. Now we have to continue to watch him chose people that have no
business being chosen. Thanks Frank Moss...er I mean Hatch, the man out of touch
@swede1952 I don't doubt your description of Dan Liljenquist. Orrin Hatch
is everything you described in Dan - I have known Orrin Hatch for almost 20
years. He is a man of integrity, wise as a serpent and harmless as a dove. An
encyclopedia of information. A compassionate and caring individual with a great
posterity of wonderful children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren and his
wife, Elaine, is a joy. He grew up in abject poverty and worked his way through
school, law school and was elected to the US Senate by simply outworking
everyone else. He continues to work 14-16 hour days, six days a week and has
the energy and capacity of a much younger man. He has one thing that Dan
doesn't have - 36 years of institutional knowledge and will be the most
senior Republican in the US Senate, possibly chairman of the Finance Committee
and President Pro Tempore of the Senate. Everything else being equal, Hatch is
the right choice. As for your second post - it is not against the law for an
active legislator to run for higher office. They simply cannot solicit
donations while the legislature is in session.
Dan resigned his Utah Senate seat because an "active" legislator cannot
run for a potential elected office. This is normal protocol. Dan didn't
"jump ship" as some believe. He or anybody according to Utah law cannot
run for office, if they are an "active politician". Let's tell the
whole story in the closing hours of this election. VOTE DAN on June 26th!
My last comments on this year's Senate race. I have had the pleasure of
getting to know Dan Liljenquist and his campaign workers over the last 9 weeks.
Dan is a wonderful man and a terrific candidate for the US Senate. I have been
impressed with his personal integrity, his humor, his good nature, and his vast
knowledge. To me, Dan's life was spared from that tragic airplane crash in
2008 because he has more contributions to make in life.Brooke, his
wife, is a delightful and gracious lady. Their six children are adorable. You
can tell a lot about a man from how he treats his wife and children. Dan is
exemplary in these relationships. His kindness and genuine compassion shine
through. Being one of 15 children, Dan knows the "value of a dollar"
and he learned from an early age how to work hard. He is a credit to his
family, community, and state.Tomorrow 9 weeks of hard work will be
put to the test. Dan's schedule has been exhaustive. But then, Dan would
NOT have done it any other way. Dan is a once-in-a-generation candidate.
LILJENQUIST for a better future!
I'm not usually in favor of several terms for any office holder, but this
year is an exception for me!! I will definitely vote for Orrin Hatch and am
actually grateful he is running again. Utah needs the experience and respect
Mr. Hatch has achieved, especially with our other Senator still being in his
first term. Some people don't recognize the importance of this for our
state, but it is extremely so at this time! One of the most deciding points for
me is that Mr. Lilenquist jumped ship as soon as he saw an opportunity to move
to Washington, and failed to continue to serve the people who elected him. And,
I refuse to be controlled or pressured by the Tea Party!!!
Hatch will wiin because he is "the lesser of two evils" but to you Mr.
Hatch I say you are a liar, you promised you would never run more than twice and
you have now put this state in a bad position. You should have walked away
long ago. You are definitely part of the problem that we as Americans find
ourselves in today.
My 2 bits - for what it's worth.1. Hatch will win the
nomination.2. All Liljenquist supporters - who for MONTHS have said they
will never vote for Hatch -- will all quietly, slither away and secretly vote
Hatch, becasue Party Loyalty is more important than personal integrity.3.
Hatch will go onto win a 7th straight term - for 42 years in the U.S. Senate and
will be the poster child as the insider, establishment, career politician. 4. The whining and complaining about him being in there for so long will
Bad as Hatch may be, Liljenquist is worse. This is an election to pick the
least worst candidate. Unfortunately I will be casting a vote against
Liljenquist (and for the United States and Utah) by pulling the lever by
Hatch's name. I have no idea what I will be doing to vote against Hatch
for the general election.