'Dreamers' rejoice in Obama's order to halt deportations of young illegal immigrants

Opponents say policy change is election year politics

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  • crazybeau West Valley city, UT
    June 20, 2012 10:04 a.m.

    You guys must have better information than I do. I do not see any where in the article where it states that these individuals do not want to work and be productive members of society. TO me the article states the opposite. This individual wnats to complete her education and get a job. Up to this point the issue has been that these individuals have not been able to work legally, but have had to work under the radar, thus they can't pay taxes because they can't let anyone know they are here. The policy will allow them to get jobs based on the educations they have received and pay taxes just like the rest of us. These individuals have done what they had to do in the past to make a living. That doesn't mean that they don't want to be above board. They were children when they came here and know no other life. Some are now married and have families which they provide for (they aren't on welfare). Why not let the individuals who came as children and have remained law-abiding other than what their parents did to them remain here?

  • lovespeaks Lehi, UT
    June 19, 2012 9:18 a.m.

    My wife is an immigrant, so are the spouses of my brother and sister. All three are now citizens. They are sometimes annoyed at those who come here illegally, making it more difficult for legals to find work, but I also understand that children brought here had little choice. If Obama had let congress do what they are elected to do, and if Obama did what he is elected to do (for once), I think a better version of the dream act could have been worked out legally, rather than Obama using the lives of these children to further his politial career. And I think we really need to secure our borders. It seems obamas plan is to make it so bad that even criminals dont want to come here (medicos economy is growing faster than ours, even though obamas goal was to have ours at where theirs is by now) but I hope that, under new leadership, we can make our economy strong enough that we can invite more legal immigrants to come here, and keep out those who would hurt others.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 15, 2012 10:23 p.m.


    Foreigners coming here, and contributing to the election of corrupt leaders, like they did in the country they left, is not good. I'm to leave?

    In a few years, we'll be like the country they left behind. Look at the once great state of California, and how the people are migrating to other states.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    June 15, 2012 9:02 p.m.

    This is so obviously an election year ploy and smacks of desperation.

  • one day... South Jordan, UT
    June 15, 2012 8:28 p.m.

    I'm happy for those dreamers, they finally can be part of our country!
    Let's the hate begin!
    Great opportunity to grow, help and be part of our diverse community!
    America was and will be made for immigrants, this is about dreamers NOT their parents, I think they must have a chance to achieve their american dream like many others that came before.
    Stop crying about "destruction of our country" and "taking our jobs" same old excuse folks! most of them if not all are more american than you are, great day for them!

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    June 15, 2012 8:17 p.m.

    We had immigration reform in 1986, illegal aliens and some in government and business ignored it. We had immigration reform in 1996, illegal aliens and some in government and business ignored it.

    Go home adults and come back legally when it's your turn. Don't steal other's places standing in line for honest immigrants.

    We flooded our country with over one and a half million legal visas from just Mexico, along with 1 million green cards country wide.

    It's no wonder our citizens can't find work.

    Compassion? not for Americans.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 15, 2012 7:45 p.m.

    How about we quit hiring illegals for a dime on the dollar and they will quit coming here and we won't have an illegal problem.

    Only one problem with that type of immigration policy, lots of Americans who are making lots of money taking advantage of illegal immigrants will have to pay American citizens at least minimum wage.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    June 15, 2012 7:12 p.m.

    The adults have a law already that helps them get right with the law. Return home and come back with a student visa or residency card before their 18.5 birthday. They don't need the dream act. They are moved to the front of the line. I've had friends do it and it upsets me greatly that the media ignores this fact.

    Executive Power does not give a President the right to pardon or commute immigration violations. This is not an executive order, but a "rule change" according to Bush, er Obama.

    Claudio, this land belongs to Americans, like it or not.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    June 15, 2012 7:04 p.m.

    As Rush said today Obamas immigration policy is Catch, Release, Vote. Oh and thank you Orrin this Dream thing is your braintrust. You will not get my vote. The woman in this story has been mooching off of the taxpayers/citizens of this country all her life. Now we have to pay for this lame con game to be implemented. These illegal products will be on a level playing field with real citizens in job competition. I know they will never be employed in my business.Oh and you hispanic folks you have just been conned. Obama has had three years to do this and waits till now to buy your vote. Is it for Sale? The words President of the United States make me puke after this clown. This guy is a marxist pure and simple.

  • dlw7 LOGAN, UT
    June 15, 2012 7:04 p.m.

    Claudio, I do not want to leave this country. What I do want is for those persons who are here illegally (note, ILLEGALLY) to go back from whence they came and enter this country in the manner prescribed by law, rather than running thru the desert on a dark night.

  • Scotty Boy Logan, UT
    June 15, 2012 6:50 p.m.

    This is only a "Political Ploy" and nothing else.Just like the " Gay " issue is the same thing. This so called "President " is taking this country down a path of Destruction and he cares not. Votes are more important than is the counrty. When will people wake up and see this "Wolf " in sheeps clothing. If what he is doing is in their best interest then they will support hime. If OBAMA is re-elected there might just be a wave of people leaving this country, but that is what the liberals want. They would be able to institute all of the "Great Social Programs" that they want. Then when we are out of money worse than we are today, Who or Whom will be complaining the most? This president is nothing but a " Socialist".

  • Claudio Springville, Ut
    June 15, 2012 6:29 p.m.

    DN Subscriber and Worf,

    No one is making you stay here to bemoan what you view as a destruction of the country. Feel free to leave anytime you want.

  • Claudio Springville, Ut
    June 15, 2012 6:27 p.m.

    Article 2 Section 2 says the President can pardon or commute sentences as he sees fit. Granting immunity to children under these qualifications IS legal and is NOT an abuse of power as has been suggested.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    June 15, 2012 5:57 p.m.

    Actually, this is nothing but spin. BIA judges have always had discretion regarding children brought here against their will. The issue of care/custody has always been a consideration. So this big announcement is nothing of substance.
    But it is a political olive branch to latino voters disappointed in Obama's broken promises.
    Note that Romney waited a whole hour before caving to the crowd. Gone is his tough stance at the GOP debates. Expect more of the same as we approach the general election.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 15, 2012 5:50 p.m.

    The people who put in corrupt leaders in Mexico, are doing the same thing here.

    In a few years we'll be illegals in Canada, and voting in corrupt leaders there.

  • The Deuce Livermore, CA
    June 15, 2012 5:47 p.m.

    To: The Sensible Middle, Bountiful, UT: Your comments do touch the heart as each of these people are individuals who were brought here and have grown up here. However, what Pres. Obama has done here is delay needed legistaltion by basically making a last minute grand-stand play that is all politics and nothing more. All of the respect and benefit of the doubt that I have given to the President is fading fast when I see a late-in-game political play like this and not involving our Congress in meaningful policy decisions. These type of things impact all of us on a long-term basis. This is not the way to address this issue and will further divide the country. For me, this was the last straw for Pres. Obama. He has neither the understanding nor capability to lead this country forward. His direction is not forward. He has not brought anyone in Congress together to pass meaningful laws and policy. It is time to go and this type of play is telling of what he thinks of this country.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 15, 2012 5:37 p.m.

    So, if you and I and all our friends stop paying income taxes because "we want a better life for our families" all will be forgiven? And if we die in the meantime, our estates will not be confiscated from our kids who have done no wrong themselves?

    Cool! Sign me up!

    Oh, wait, you don't think that will happen?

    Even if the "innocent children" are allowed to stay, that should NOT prevent or delay the immediate deportation of the illgal parents and siblings! But, mark my words, every family member will be allowed to stay, and their new "legal status" will be in time for them all to vote Democrat in November 2012!

    Obama is destroying our country, systematically, for his own political benefit.

    Our country is lost for sure if Obama is reelected, and probably even if he is not, thanks to the damage he has inflicted.

  • Editorial Notes At Home In, UT
    June 15, 2012 5:24 p.m.

    Senator Hatch must be so happy.

  • Reasonable Emotion Springville, UT
    June 15, 2012 5:23 p.m.

    This is really common sense (unfortunate that so many in our community don't see it that way). Hopefully, this is a first step in logical immigration reform, recognizing that just being born to US citizen parents should not entitle us (Americans) to hoard our quality of life and turn a cold shoulder to our neighbors in a worldwide community of humankind.

  • dlw7 LOGAN, UT
    June 15, 2012 5:18 p.m.

    There IS an immigration policy in place. The problem is NO ONE will enforce it. Nobody wants offend anybody so nobody does anything except to try to find ways to circumvent the laws that are in place, such as this mumbo-jumbo muddle that is being pressed upon the citizens. Our borders should have BIG signs that say, "Welcome everyone! Come right on in. Stop at the nearest State Welfare Office to sign up for all the things this country offers--FREE of charge, just for you." This latest wacky idea is par for the people in Washington. I don't care what the media says, if you read the newpapers and watch the news on TV, it does not take long to figure out which citizens of which countries are causing the problems

  • BYU Alum Cedar Hills, UT
    June 15, 2012 4:59 p.m.

    Dictator Obama does not have the power to bypass Congress on an issue such as this. I am a Democrat and this is not what I bargained for. Bush fatigue has been replaced by the realization that we now have a leader who is mindlessly flailing around even worse than Jimmy Carter did.

  • BYU Alum Cedar Hills, UT
    June 15, 2012 4:55 p.m.

    Dictator Obama doesn't have the power to bypass Congress on an issue such as this. I am a Democrat and this isn't what I bargained for. Bush fatigue has been replaced by the realization that we now have a leader who is mindlessly flailing around even worse than Jimmy Carter did.

  • Voice Saint George, UT
    June 15, 2012 4:55 p.m.

    Sorry to say, Trooper55, OUR money must now take care of them.

    Obama can buy friends with our money and he is on a spending rampage.

    How unfortunate for America that so many things have come down to executive decree. Why have a congress or a judicial system when all we need is a president?

    Unfortunately, I think today's decree bought Obama a second term.

  • Trooper55 Williams, AZ
    June 15, 2012 4:20 p.m.

    I say it's time to show the president we are through with his way of doing this country wrong. Their of thousand of people waiting to enter this country legally and all he can show is favor towards the illegals and it's time for Obama to do what is best for this country, but no play fovorite to the illegals, if he loves them so much why doesn't he put his money into taking care of them.

  • The Sensible Middle Bountiful, UT
    June 15, 2012 3:59 p.m.

    One of my sons friends is one of these children. I was really surprised to learn he isn't a citizen and can't even leagally get a job now that he has graduated high school. In no way is he responsible for his circumstance, so I am happy that something is being done to help him. He is not a foreigner, he is as American as they come. Unfortunately so many Americans are very mean spirited, but fortunately there are many who aren't.

    Were iit up to me those allowed to live iwould be people who are kind hearted. Those who aren't are the real foreigners.

  • David B. Cedar City, UT
    June 15, 2012 3:11 p.m.

    This is a mistake of monumentous of all bad judgements made by this fool in the White House. You might as well open up all borders and watch the U.S. fall from grace.Crimes rates will go out of sight while law enforcement agencys are reducing in size due to the bad economy. This is incompetence at its best being displayed by the bone headed leadership of our country.