Prosecutor has no plans to bargain for info about missing Utahn
That someone who was convicted of crimes also viewed porn, does nothing to
establish that viewing porn causes crime.All convicted criminals
also drink water, but we would be foolish to conclude from that fact that
drinking water causes criminal behavior.Even (unsupported) claims
that prisons are filled with a higher percentage of persons who viewed porn does
not implicate porn-viewing as a cause of crime, any more than Utah being the
"porn-consumption capital of the US" can support a conclusion that
Utahns are somehow sexually deviant (for example, from religious
repression?).So let's all take a chill pill and stop trying to
draw unreasonable and unsupported conclusions from the Powell case. All we know,
and all we may ever know, is that Stephen engaged in criminal voyeurism, and
Josh committed a murder-suicide. Attempts to use this sad tale to get on your
soap box and preach against porn are naive and arrogant.
Re: Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC"I guess the witch hunt/ blood hunt
is finally at an end."If you are referring to the fact that the
jury found the suspect guilty on all 14 counts I guess you are correct. They
found the subject of the witch hunt guilty and thankfully he is headed for
prison.Decent society appreciates the fact that this convicted
criminal will be separated from among us for a period of time.
Hopefully, this will finally allow Pat Reavy and the rest of the Deseret News to
have some closure. ... But more seriously, glad this creeper got put away. The
State of Washington did what the State of Utah didn't have the guts to do:
Arrest a Powell and make him face the consequences of his acts.
This ongoing saga is a perfect example of reality TV--the trainwreck we know as
the Powell family. Coming up after the commercial break, we'll see if
Alina Powell can get the help she so desperately needs to deal with her denial.
I guess the witch hunt/ blood hunt is finally at an end. Now we can get on with
Evidence point to Steven Powell as co-conspirator, seen with Josh scouting areas
in desert to hide body, calling Josh the day of the murder, and taking off sick
days to meet Josh halfway who drove rental car 800 miles, and keeping sick
mementos of Susan even after death. Steven is in WA jurisdiction, so WA
authorities need to investigate Steven for his role in murder and get West
Valley to cough up everything they have found and covered up. They and the rest
of us should not stop at voyerism.
"Sins of the father...." Look at what it has done to this family.
LDS Liberal: Some of those pictures were of Susan, but those were not used
because she isn't here to testify.
Since Steven has children who will spend countless energy defending what they
believe to be true, they deserve to know what the truth really is. And they
deserve to be told my their father, Steven. Only in the event that he tells the
truth to them and to the world, can everyone touched by this tragedy heal and be
set free. How can a father not see the destructive nature of the evil of lies,
deceit, and crime? Is that how he wants his children to live the rest of their
lives, only to learn the truth beyond the grave? Steven, tell the truth and
take the consequences, that all might be healed.
@LDS Liberal: This story (or any like it) is irrelevant unless it happens to
someone you know. I thought liberals were concerned about everyone's
well-being, not just their own, and liked the media to dig. Thank you for
clarifying.Thank you, D-News for keeping this story in front of us
all these months. If left to the WVC Police, it would have disappeared with
Susan Powell 2 years ago.
I hadn't heard that Susans' family is using the west valley pd...is
that really going to happen??? If so, that would lessen my respect for
them....No need to profit off the unfortunate loss of your daughter, IMO
@ Kuipo,Could it just be that the only "big pay-day" that
the Cox's want is the opportunity to give their beloved daughter a proper
burial. Put yourself in their shoes for a day or two. Have you ever lost
someone close through similar circumstances? I am fortunate that I never have,
but I know that in their place there is NO STONE that I would leave unturned,
including, if necessary, suing the West Valley PD to release ALL information.
Re: Ms Moll Bountiful, Utah"I think the possible sentence for this
offense is too long."In the first place he wasn't convicted
of an offense. He was convicted of 14 offenses. And no, this trial
wasn't about revenge, it was about the criminal behavior this man was
convicted of. The world is a better and safer place with this man locked up in
prison.I'd have more sympathy for Mr. Powell if he would allow
Susan Cox's parents to give her a decent burial.
I think the possible sentence for this offense is too long. What he did was
wrong -- that I will agree. I hope that parents and others have a wakeup call.
I'm well aware of the windows in my home that outsiders can see thru. Do I
expose myself near those windows? Heck no! Yrs ago the cost for housing an
inmate was approx $75,000 a yrs. Its probably higher now. I'd rather use
that money for other kinds of criminals. I've not seen any evidence
published that he has ever taken any action towards molesting a child. If he
had, I'd feel very differently about locking this man up. Its sick and
twisted what he did ... but with the limited resources we have this isn't
where I've want my tax dollars to go. I've seen articles posted in
this paper where a seminary teacher in Utah was convicted of having sexual
relations with a student and many members of his community pled for a lenient
sentence because he was such a "good father". People are twisted when
it comes to revenge ... that is what this trial was about.
Just as Dr. Phil would say, "You cannot change what you don't
acknowledge. " Alina needs to look closer at the dynamics of her family and
quit blaming everyone else.
Sammy: is that what your counselor told you? Utah is the porn capital of the
world?I hope Stephen gets the sentence he deserves. He has hurt
enough of his family already.
some of you folks need to read the article more closely. It says the normal
sentence for this type of case is 43 MONTHS. that means from 3 to 4 years.
Although a 70 year sentence is a possibility, its pretty unlikely that
he'll get the maximum.
this guy is obviously one sick man so do we put a guy in prison for an addiction
? We put drive by killers in prison for 18 months but we put a man with a
disgusting addiction away for 70 years? Unless the man actually physically
abused kids or committed murder I don't see the justification for viewing
bad stuff on the internet and a 70 year prison sentence.
This case goes beyond liberal or conservative ideology. It show's how
destructive pornography is and how wrong choices made by a father destroyed his
marriage and his relationship with his children and extended family members.
Actually her images were found. It is relevant to Susan Cox.
I think the most important thing here is that powell will spill what happened to
susan ..how she died and where she is ..her body if she is dead which we all
suspect...we dont know who did what the dead husband did he kill his wife and
why...then we have two dead sons...wow...what a mess. why didnt they just get
help...people put those things off ..when one sees they are not well or doing
things that arent in sinc with reality or what is the norm go get help .its
better to nip it right off ..everyone has something they need help with none of
us are perfect..I dont understand the huge sentence mr powell got though..they
havent proved that he murdered the daughter in law susan...they know and I would
be pretty sure that he was the voyuer...taking the pics ...but was there
something else not said that he did to warrant the huge sentence..he definitely
needs help...he is a sick man...but for a sentence to be that long ??
Excellent verdict! I hope he serves the sentences consecutively . . . in the
general prison population . . . and NEVER gets out of jail.
sounds like he's being punished for his sons sins, and Susan's parents
are just looking for a huge pay day by suing the west valley p.d. i'm sick
and tired of these people constantly being in the news. there's a lot more
important things to report on. i just hope if i go missing that the departments
involved will spend as much time and effort in looking for me, but really do you
think that's going to happen? NO
Offer him a deal, that if he will tell what happened to Susan, he gets off.
JCS -- you sound exactly like a Limbaugh wannabe with your hatred of anything
"liberal."I have news for you, most of us liberals are at
least as disgusted with porn as you claim to be. I notice that there are many
"conservatives" shouting that censorship of anything, including porn,
violates the Constitution.And if Utah is truly a
"conservative" state, why then are there so many porn addicts living
here. Are they all "liberals," or could some of them just happen to
@LDS Liberal - "This has nothing to do with Susan Powell or
Utah."Then I guess the DN should not have published any of these
stories that have nothing to do with Utah (or Susan Powell for that matter):- Ex-tabloid boss faces hacking charges - LONDON - One of Rupert
Murdoch's most trusted lieutenants and five people close to her were
charged Tuesday...- Murdoch to be quizzed on his UK political sway -
LONDON - Now, with his influence shriveled by Britain's phone hacking
scandal, media mogul Rupert Murdoch...- UK police arrest 6 in phone
hacking investigation - LONDON - British police made six arrests early
Excellent! Excellent! And Excellent!
@John Clarity SpringClearly all of the issues that Josh and his
father have is the result of pornography!Sometimes there are just
bad eggs.I think you could have put these two individuals in the
middle of a Disney movie and they would have ended up the way they are/did.But it's always nice to try and find someone/something to blame.
John Charity SpringBack Home in Davis County, UTThis
case should serve as a lesson for all those liberals out there who claim that
pornography never hurt anyone. Steven Powell not only hurt those two little
girls whose photos he took, his actions also led to the violent murder of two of
his own grandsons.Hopefully, those from the left-wing who constantly
push for fewer restrictions on pornography will look at this case and change
their ways before they create more Steven and Josh Powell's.Why
do you feel this situation has to be politisied? Unfortunatly there are plenty
from the right-wing conservatives that view and promote Pronography as well as
having been found guilty of voyeurism. This is a tragic case no matter how you
look at it, there is no need to try to try to turn it into a political football
by play the blame game on the liberals. AS a liberal leaning person in no way
do I or any other liberal that I know support or promote either pornography or
Since Utah is the on-line porn capital, then it is especially important that
this story be told here in Utah. Then there is the obvious connection with Susan
with the hope that Powell will now speak up. On a personal level, I
am interested in anything that is connected in any way to Susan Powell and her
beautiful boys because of my empathy for them. There is nothing wrong with that.
For those who disagree, why read the articles, and why castigate those who have
a different opinion than they have?
@LDS Liberal - What is your problem with Deseret News for reporting this story?
Why do you question their journalistic authenticity or ability? How is DN
sensationalizing this story? Let me just give you a short list of other news
organisations that felt that this story was worth reporting and not
"insignificant" :ABC News, Reuters, Salt Lake Tribune, New
York Daily News, Daily Mail, msnbc, Fox News, Huffington Post, Atlanta Journal
Constitution, and dozens more. Please submit a detailed description
of your "newsworthy requirements" to each of the news outlets listed
above so that they can finally get it right.
Why am I getting pasted for stating the obvious?Steve Powell -- a
creep living in Washington State, committed crimes in Washington State, is found
guilty in Washington State.This has nothing to do with Susan Powell
or Utah.Meanwhile -- if it's on-line Porn you people are so up
in arms about,Cover this:"Utah is on-line PORN
capital of America"Now THAT is relevant.
Re: LDS Liberal Farmington, UT"Proving what?"You've previously mentioned a witch-hunt. Apparently the jury found one.
Ir should I say fourteen? The authorities believe Mr. Powell has
information that could help them locate Susan Powell's body. Who knows,
Mr. Powell might now be willing to barter information in exchange for a reduced
prison sentence. You really can't blame the Cox family for wanting to give
their daughter a proper burial.People who want to downplay what Mr.
Powell did might want to remember that is it is serious enough to send him to
prison for a long time.
At least the Cox's are getting SOME justice. I think Powell knows more.
This case is a classic example of how taking a step down the path to evil
eventually can lead to disaster for yourself and many others. Steven Powell
made the decision to take that step and look where it has all lead. Making evil
choices can effect generations.
judged by a group of his peers and now he will get to spend some time with a
group of his peers. amazing how justice works.
I hope that, with the verdict in hand, Powell might want to cut a deal and TELL
US what he knows happened to Susan...Now that he is facing significant time in
jail, this bird might start to sing, hopefully!
OK, now can we cover some real news stories?
To LDS Liberal:...and yet you read the "irrelevant story".
This case should serve as a lesson for all those liberals out there who claim
that pornography never hurt anyone. Steven Powell not only hurt those two little
girls whose photos he took, his actions also led to the violent murder of two of
his own grandsons.Pornography dehumanizes others in the minds of
those like Steven Powell who view it. These porn viewers inevitably loose all
respect and concern for anyone but themselves. Sadly, many like Steven Powell
then pass on this tendency for selfishness and perverseness to their
offspring.Josh Powell obviously adopted his father's attitude
that women are mere sex objects. He indulged this attitude so much that he
eventually killed her for trying to be more than just the sort of woman that
appears in porn. This lack of concern for others led him to think of his sons as
mere objects that could be destroyed out of pure selfishness.Hopefully, those from the left-wing who constantly push for fewer restrictions
on pornography will look at this case and change their ways before they create
more Steven and Josh Powell's.
Proving what?And relevant to the disappearance of Susan how?And all happening where [hint: not Utah]?Hopefully, the
media circus is over.Covering this irrelevant story day-after-day for
months changes nothing.The DN monitor [a supposed
"journalist"] has refused to post of a simple journalist definition:Sensationalism - Sensationalism is a type of mass media in which
events and topics in news stories are over-hyped to increase viewership or
readership numbers. Sensationalism may include reporting about generally
insignificant matters and events that don't influence overall society.Some tactics include being deliberately obtuse, appealing to emotions, and
being controversial. Trivial information and events are sometimes misrepresented
and exaggerated as important or significant, and often includes stories about
the actions of individuals, the content of which is often insignificant and
irrelevant relative to the macro-level day-to-day events that occur globally.
Furthermore, the content and subject matter typically doesn't affect the
lives of the masses and doesn't affect society.
$10 a day? That has to be super insulting. Why not just make it free.
What in the world was Stephen Powell thinking when he decided it might be a good
idea to take pictures of undressed little girls and store the images on his
computer? Now that he has been found guilty by a jury of his peers I hope he
spends a long time in prison where he belongs.