Evangelical voters may be getting more comfortable with Romney

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  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    May 16, 2012 11:41 a.m.

    Anyone who issists on voting for or against another person based on religion, by a strict interpertation of the constitution ought not be allowed to vote.

    The constitution says that holders of federal office shall not be subject to any religious test.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    May 16, 2012 11:33 a.m.

    Its crossed my mind more than once that President Obama is tired of the burdens of being president, but that he feels obligated to run again, and he is deliberately mistepping in order to not get re-elected again.

  • Andermart Pullman, WA
    May 15, 2012 12:52 a.m.

    If America is going to be a "light on the hill" with regards to religious tolerance, then who better than a Mormon to carry that torch for an evangelical base? This truly says tolerance. But can they put their vote towards one they wish they did not have to tolerate? This will be a telling election.

  • Semper Fi Bakersfield, CA
    May 14, 2012 8:19 p.m.

    As I stated, the evangelical problem with Mitt is an evangelical problem. It is our problem with his religious doctrines, not his "values and ethics".

    That Mormons don't agree with us is not the issue. It is what it is. You have another Jesus, another gospel and you will not or cannot understand where Joseph left Biblical teachings. So we worship in separate churches. Stop equating our religious riffs with some contrived battle.

    Joseph Smith didn't like any of the existing churches in 1830. That's his choice. He organized an awesome group of hard-working frontier people, who pushed the boundaries into rugged country and carved out an awesome empire. Many civilizations in past history have created captivating civilizations and progressive achievements. That they weren't all Christian is no disgrace. But to equate a successful human enterprise with "Biblical truth" is nonsense.

    So, many of us don't care if Romney walks on water or produces the Gold Plates. The Book of Mormon might be an accurate record of people living in the Americas. The issue is what they believed and taught, not that they existed and taught something similar.

    Religious disagreements are not political.

  • Shazandra Bakersfield, CA
    May 14, 2012 12:50 p.m.

    For all here who sincerely asked why (Biblical) evangelical churches reject Mormonism as Biblical, you can blame the DN site monitors for not allowing a single reply to get posted.

    I listed 8 LDS doctrines that are diametrically opposed to centuries of OT declarations on the nature of its eternal God and His utter uniqueness in all the Cosmos, (Isaiah 40-46). Jews still believe in that God to this day.

    I listed 6 LDS teachings that "tweak" NT doctrines so much that they render LDS doctrines on heaven, salvation, justification, exaltation and post-salvation obedience as "another gospel".

    And each time that I or other friends in our community try to give our credentials so you will know that we are not just giving a lay-opinion, our posts are rejected..

    Since the DN wants these sites to remain LDS-dominated, so be it. But just because prevailing LDS opinions remain unanswered here, it should not be misconstrued that we have no polite explanation or Biblical refutation to share.

    Our advice- go visit and study at legitimate evangelical churches. None of them accept polytheism or heavenly plural marriage as Biblical. No Bible-only church ever has. Thank you.

  • sharrona layton, UT
    May 13, 2012 2:49 p.m.

    @: Mountanman,I am not trying to argue with you on the nature of God.

    Let us make man in ‘Our Image’ image and likeness …”(Genesis 1:26)“So God created man in His “OWN(spiritual) Image” male and female…(Genesis 1:27) If there were more than one God it would read in “their image.” The Trinity in the O.T.

    The Trinity in nature: The Sun we see high in the sky, and we see the Sun through its light. In the same way, as we behold the Father through the Son, and heat is something we feel, and the Holy Spirit is the Comforter, he is the presence we feel that supports us and gives us consolations and gifts.
    Therefore the one Sun shows itself as triune, sunlight and heat yet one substance or essence, as its splendid in its unity and oneness. How much more the Creator of the sun is splendid and One in his unity and oneness in his Triune being.

    The "Pale" of Christianity, Believes in One God in three divine persons, great is the mystery of this unity

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    May 13, 2012 8:21 a.m.

    @ sharonna. Yet at Jesus’ baptism and at the transfiguration everyone there heard the Father say, “this is my beloved son.” Did Jesus pray to himself, “Our (My) father in heaven”? Did he send himself? “My Father sent me” and I do my Father’s will”? When Jesus announced he would ascend to the Father, was he saying he was ascending to himself? The Father and the Son cannot be the same person even though they are one in purpose, like Jesus admonished his disciples to be one (united). When Stephan was being stoned he saw a vision and saw the Father standing on the right hand of Jesus, how could that be? My studies of the Scriptures convince me that God the Father and his Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost are three separate glorified beings untied in purpose. Jesus prayed, “This is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God and Jesus Christ whom thou has sent”! That prayer alone convinces me! I am not trying to argue with you, but trying to point out how clearly the scriptures teach about the nature of God!

  • sharrona layton, UT
    May 12, 2012 9:20 p.m.

    Re: Mountanman, I am confused by all the different Christian denominations.

    LDS theology believes in three separate and distinct members of the Godhead.

    Elder Bruce R. McConkie: ”…To us ,speaking in the proper finite sense, these three are the only Gods we worship.

    The "Pale" of Christianity(Catholic, Protestant) does not worship Gods(polytheism)but God(monotheism).
    The Athanasian Creed ,Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic (universal) faith; Which faith except everyone do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly And the catholic (universal) faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; Neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Substance.

    "one in substance”. Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person(substance, 5287).Hebrews 1:3

    “…baptizing in the Name(not names)of Father ,and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.(Mt 28:19)Three persons but one God,(Tri)same being or essence(unity). Monotheism. Christians worship One God.

    Hear, O Israel: The LORD(YHWH) our God(Elohim) is one LORD(YHWH)..(Deut 6:4)

  • Andermart Pullman, WA
    May 12, 2012 9:14 p.m.

    BYU would certainly welcome most any religious leader as a commencement speaker. We love all those who love and practice truth and virtue no matter where they find it. In this regard, we are much more accepting of diversity than the typical person. We feel it is important to share what we believe the Lord has done in our day and age, but don't mistake this missionary zeal for shunning all others. We have an extremely strong conviction of the truthfulness of the Bible and of our need to be nourished by it in our daily life. We love the Bible. It testifies of everything our faith stands for, and is testified of in other sacred texts. With Paul, we declare that if there is anything honest, true, virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things, be they in whatever faith they are found.

  • Cowboy Dude SAINT GEORGE, UT
    May 12, 2012 6:56 p.m.

    Being anti-Mormon, anti-Catholic, or anti-semitic is not being Christian.

  • Canyontreker TAYLORSVILLE, UT
    May 12, 2012 6:41 p.m.

    To say Evangelicals believe so and so about Mormons is as ignorant as to say Mormons are not Bible Christians.

    Every Evangelical friend of mine, (from living in New York and the West) has never questioned Mormons as Bible Christians. The media shifts through the masses and display the out-liners to put on the air and so forth. There may even be a majority of anti-Mormons in certain communities but this is certainly not the case everywhere.

    Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson have built bridges between Mormons and Evangelicals and there are many more. But the media isn't talking about them.

    Even the Student Body President at Liberty University was surprised by the questions from CNN and said he considered Mitt Romney as a brother.

  • Twin Sister LINDON, UT
    May 12, 2012 5:52 p.m.

    @ Capella. For some reason, no matter how many times it is pointed out, evangelical Christians don't seem to want to accept the fact that members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints ARE Biblical believing Christians. Members of our faith thoroughly study the Old and New Testaments in our Sunday School curriculum, study the Bible individually in private study, quote from it, and live its teachings. Therefore, no evangelical Christian should hesitate to vote for Mitt Romney based on his religious affiliation alone since Mitt Romney is a Biblical believing Christian.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    May 12, 2012 12:51 p.m.

    Any chance of getting a posthumous endorsement from Jerry Falwell?

  • Bored to the point of THIS! Ogden, UT
    May 12, 2012 10:31 a.m.

    Do they really have a choice? He's the Republican's choice...has to be theirs! They'll really get warm on election day...that or they'll stay home.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    May 12, 2012 10:20 a.m.

    @ Capella. I am confused by all the different Christian denominations who quote the same Bible but interpret is so very differently and say if you don’t interpret the Bible like me, then you are not a Christian. I have attended meetings with Assembly of God and I can tell you they worship and believe very different than the 7th day Adventists, or the Catholics, or the Methodists or the Baptists or the Mormons. Who then are the REAL Christians who decides that? Are “evangelicals” the only “real” Christians and if so, who decides that? To me, is a mass of confusion!

  • jpjazz Sandy, UT
    May 12, 2012 9:37 a.m.

    Capella, "Would BYU invite Billy Graham to deliver their graduates' advice?"

    I have little doubt that Rev Graham would be welcomed, he would join Dick Cheney, Roger Rosenblatt and Jehan Sadat as recent BYU commencement speakers.

  • t702 Las Vegas, NV
    May 12, 2012 8:45 a.m.

    Mitt a person with experience and terrific record of creating jobs vs BO is still on job training has no clue what to do, zero leadership skill - I mean there is no comparison

    Go Mitt!

  • KJB1 Eugene, OR
    May 12, 2012 8:37 a.m.


    We already have one. His name is Barack Obama.

  • Hua Ken Po St. George, UT
    May 12, 2012 8:27 a.m.

    Does being a "Christian" mean devoting oneself to precepts found in the Nicene creed? If a person says they believe in Christ do we have to doubt that? Every single person on the planet has a slightly different perception of what Christ means to them. Do we have to divide ourselves and magnify the differences?

  • GoldieZ Central, UT
    May 12, 2012 8:05 a.m.

    Won't it be wonderful to have an honest, faithful, intelligent,hardworking, true to his wife President?
    Go Mitt!

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    May 12, 2012 7:04 a.m.

    Anyone who has good morl values should be completely comfortable with Romney.q

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    May 12, 2012 6:39 a.m.

    They're pretty much stuck with him.

  • GEAnthony RAMAH, NM
    May 12, 2012 6:35 a.m.

    I am L.D.S and very comfortable with Romney.

  • Semper Fi Bakersfield, CA
    May 12, 2012 6:24 a.m.

    Lisa, Lisa, Lisa. Evangelicals have no problem with Mormon politicians. We share the same ethical values, fight the same social battles for morality and Biblical principals, and love your awesome patriotism, education and family emphasis, work ethic, charity and defense "of all that is good". We vote for your politicians as often as you do for ours.

    Both sides know theological divide is impassable, so let's keep the political issues separate.

    The problem we have in our communities is that the majority of non-LDS do not know what those differences are, because you use Biblical terminology with LDS definitions. We just seek to clarify the definitions, and keep the distinctions clear.

    We are on your side with the goal of educating the public as to what Mormons believe. We pass out BoMs, hold community panels with both sides participating, and seek to give our community accurate options. When missionaries show up on our porches with Bibles in hand, it is confusing. We know what all of your leaders have said about its veracity, so this is seen as "baiting" the unawares. God's Word says to be Bereans when it comes to "other gospels".

    And we will.

  • ed in atl Duluth, GA
    May 12, 2012 6:12 a.m.

    at One Old Man
    Then vote for Obama. I'm LDS and not at all comfortable with Obama and let the spending go on. Maybe Mitt will change things especially, the economy.

  • Capella Bakersfield, CA
    May 12, 2012 6:08 a.m.

    For some reason, the DN cannot seem to get this issue right, no matter how many posts, phone calls and letters are sent clarifying the reasons for the evangelical concerns about Mitt's religion. To be fair, the mainstream media hasn't gotten it right either, nor Senator Lieberman, etc.

    Let me help clarify, as I am evangelical and sent letters and concerns to Liberty and the DN.

    1. No major religious leader has ever said that they have anything against Gov. Romney's fine character traits, family life, and political prowess.

    2. Rev. Jeffress, Mike Huckabee and other personalities maintained from Day 1 that they would support Romney, should he garner the party nomination. Many expressed their personal opinions to their congregants, that when given the opportunity, they felt Bible Christians should vote for a Biblical believer.

    3. The complaint at Liberty was about a non-Biblical Christian giving the Commencement message. It had nothing to do with Romney's inspiring message and advice. But any secular humanist can encourage a crowd to perservere, be honest, etc. That speech would be great on a regular day.

    4. Would BYU invite Billy Graham to deliver their graduates' advice?

  • Yerffoegn Maricopa, Az
    May 12, 2012 5:11 a.m.

    Old guy. Then I guess Obama is your guy.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    May 11, 2012 9:10 p.m.

    I'm LDS and not at all comfortable with Romney.

  • Abe Sarvis Cedar City, UT
    May 11, 2012 6:51 p.m.

    "'What they've done is give him an issue that highlights his strengths,' [Woodard] said."

    Or his weaknesses, depending on your position on government regulation of marriage.