Blue roundup: What Jabari Parker is looking for in a basketball program

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  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 1, 2012 8:32 p.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum:

    "I truly believe that Riley Nelson will have 3-6 turnovers at Utah."

    Interesting prediction. While I'm not one for prognostications either, I will predict that as Nelson runs the first non-WAC/FCS gauntlet of September, Jake Heaps will regret leaving Provo. Nelson will be just as challenged by Washington St, Utah, and Boise St. as Heaps was vs. Texas, Utah, and Utah St. Had Heaps simply opted to be a team player, and accept the bench to start September, Nelson would have struggled early, and Mendenhall would have given HIM the hook just as quickly as he did to Heaps last season. Then Heaps could have played a bunch of WAC teams and deluded himself, his team, his coaches, and his fans into thinking the cougars have finally put it all together, excused their fates as a "hiccup on the road" or a "fluke loss" at Notre Dame and Ga. Tech, and validate that by running up the score vs. the remaining WAC teams on their schedule.

    In short, Heaps would have played again had he stayed, rather than running the Scout team at Kansas.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 1, 2012 8:15 p.m.


    "If the new playoff structure picks the Top 4 teams and BYU has access, they should stay indy...If the conference champ is picked from the SEC, ACC, Big10 and Big12 - look for each conference to build to 16 teams. BYU will likely get picked up by the Big12. The Big East will be on the outside looking in."

    Since MiP already addressed your blatantly biased omission of the Pac-12 amid the Top-4, I'll just skip that frantic and emotional part of your post, and instead address the very ridiculous notion of you obtaining any access to college football's proposed Final-4...

    In're not getting access.

    As the conference commissioners [plus Notre Dame] discussed this playoff model, conspicuously absent from the negotiating table was BYU. Know that the Big East won't be the ONLY entity "on the outside looking in." You'll be right there behind them, trying to peer over their shoulders to watch the rest of play in the big boy postseason games.

    And you're not going to the Big 12. They didn't want you, remember? They said "NO!" Twice!

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    April 29, 2012 8:34 a.m.

    @ Y dad grad, If BYU beats Utah at RES I will buy you dinner at The New Yorker in SLC after the game. I'm not fat or bald, but "old" too! Hahahahahaha! That was some funny stuff......cheers sir!

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    April 28, 2012 9:56 p.m.

    We WILL see. That is after all why they play the game. See you there! I'll be the old bald guy in the corner with the other old bald guys.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    April 28, 2012 6:10 p.m.

    @ Chris B,

    Don't you ever get tired of hating? So what if some fans consider BYU a major b/b or f/b program? Why does that irks you so much? Or why do you even care or feel the need to keep telling us we're never able to recruit any real athletes? Like it or not, BYU is doing just fine with the kind of athletes we attract. If you and the likes of you don't like anything about BYU, may I respectfully ask you to just please go away? I for one am tired of your same old hateful venom. I'd love for you and others like you to try and be nice for a change. Otherwise, please go away and leave us alone.

  • Mount Olympus Salt Lake, UT
    April 28, 2012 5:46 p.m.

    Re: Riverton Cougar

    BYU deemed better than Utah at football.

    Ha! How much does Utah have to beat BYU by next year for you to say Utah is better?

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    April 28, 2012 5:43 p.m.

    @ Y dad grad. Keep dreaming. We'll see sir??????

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    April 28, 2012 4:13 p.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    Of the five you name, I think BYU will win three of them, including @ Utah. Riley will break Ur heart, but out of that will grow the seeds of hope... for Colorado, WSU and the others that hope to climb out of the cellar on Ur back.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    April 28, 2012 3:29 p.m.

    Does any BYU fan think that BYU will win at Utah, Georgia Tech, ND, Wazzu at home, or on the "Smurf turf" at Boise State? I don't prognosticate, but I truly believe that Riley Nelson will have 3-6 turnovers at Utah. How bad will they be and where will they occur?.........the "real question?" Utah is LOADED this year folks and have great coaching.............I cannot wait for 9-15-12. Go Utes!!!!! Then, Utah will tell BYU......."nice knowing you."

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    April 28, 2012 2:59 p.m.

    Jabari will do very well at Duke. Great school, ACC BB and with an institution that stands for a quality education. If he wants a wife......go to BYU. Some hot Cali blonde will make him proud.

    BYU football is sad. They're playing for nothing. It is that simple. They will lose big time against Mike Leech from Wazzu, get crucified by Utah again, Georgia Tech is loaded, ND will win for sure....and on and on.......Let's talk about Utah State......the second best football program in Utah. BYU is ridiculous. Other than Kyle Van Noy, there is no athlete at BYU currently.

    I'm glad to hear that Fredette has a new Spalding BB shoe deal.........After his NBA contract expires next year........he'll be headed to eastern Europe. Spalding is popular there. Adam Morrison has been texting Fredette......they are buddies. I hope they broadcast Jimmer playing in Europe on BYUTV? He is the best basketball player that ever walked this earth!

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    April 28, 2012 1:32 p.m.


    poor jealous ute

    Jimmer's rookie year stats without a summer league, without a fall training camp, with only two pre-season games, with a compressed schedule, with a mid-season head coaching change, and playing on a team that runs a free-style, one-on-one "offense" (if that's what you call it) that completely wastes the advantages of having a deadly spot-up 3-point shooter with range like Jimmer, yet Jimmer still...

    Played in 61 games, started 7 games, averaged 18.6 minutes, 7.6 points, 1.8 assists, 1.2 rebounds per game, nearly identical to his Freshman year of college.

    18.5 minutes, 7 points, 1.7 assists, and 1.1 rebounds per game as a BYU Freshman

    Plus, and this is where the jealous rants of the BYU haters are soooo laughable,

    Jimmer is making over $2 million per year and has his own shoe contract playing in a league all of the hill trolling naysayers said he was too "unathletic" to play in.

  • CdA Ute Mason, OH
    April 28, 2012 1:30 p.m.

    As a Ute troll, I think BYU would be a good fit for him and he would thrive there. Understand he is of the talent that'll be one and done. But, he'd be a good ambassador for the Y programs. Still, wish he'd consider the U though.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 28, 2012 11:38 a.m.

    Jabari will do just fine wherever he goes. BYU would be a great fit that combines his own personal standards and superior athletics. Going to a SEC or PAC-12 team, not so much. And playing basketball at Utah offers neither.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    April 28, 2012 10:37 a.m.

    Based on Jabari's comments, I'd have to agree with CougFaninTx, that BYU could fit into that equation. However calling BYU a legit Top-25 program may be a stretch, that's usally reserved for teams that are always in the polls...not hovering around them or getting ranked occasionally. Gonzaga, maybe.

    Also, CFinTx, you suppose the BCS would select the champions of the ACC over the PAC-12 for this 4 team "event"? Nice. No bias there. Check your facts and you would see that the PAC-12 is consistently ranked ahead of the ACC in power rankings and have clearly performed better in BCS bowls than the ACC (Clemson, anyone?). Last year the PAC-12 had two teams there, finshing 1-1 with the close loss of Stanford/OSU, and have had several teams play in the NC game this past decade, most recently in 2011. USC is in NC talks this year and Oregon doesn't seem to be disappearing anytime soon. If they move to selecting the champion from 4 conferences, as you alude to, rest assured the PAC-12 would have as good an argument as the ACC. NO doubt the Big East will be on the outside looking in.

  • raisedaute Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 28, 2012 10:28 a.m.


    So you are saying that Chris B is the type of character BYU builds???

    @Riverton Cougar

    Remember last September?

    The end lol

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    April 28, 2012 7:31 a.m.

    Look at Chris B, we built him...

  • IndeMak South Jordan, UT
    April 27, 2012 10:25 p.m.

    What character does BYU build?

  • Eddie Would Go FPO, AE
    April 27, 2012 6:29 p.m.

    As much as I hope that Jimmer's signature shoes will be really good, I just can't help but think that they probably won't live up to the hype....

  • Eddie Syracuse, UT
    April 27, 2012 5:56 p.m.

    To all those Ute fans who were saying that Jabari was thinking of going to the U......LOL

    Giving the things that he said he is looking for in a school, that would put u at the bottom of the list!

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    April 27, 2012 5:26 p.m.

    Chris B,

    If BYU athletes are not athletic, and this past year they were deemed better than Utah in both football and basketball (and most other sports as well), then what does that say about Utah's athletes? If Utah has so many more athletic players than BYU, why do they lose to so many 10-loss teams while BYU loses to none? It's great that you can beat good teams (BYU can, too), but losing to teams like that really hurts your credibility.

    April 27, 2012 3:52 p.m.

    What does Jabari Parker have to do with a four or eight team playoff? What a transition.

  • Mesa Coug Phoenix, AZ
    April 27, 2012 2:26 p.m.


    You go ahead and "heart" the bcs all you want. Isn't "heart"ing something what tween girls do?

  • BlameItOnTheOfficials Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 27, 2012 1:28 p.m.

    Chris B.

    It's sure good for us that you're here to let us know what Jabari Parker is wanting. No one would know better than you.

    I can't imagine why he'd ever even consider BYU if what you say is true.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    April 27, 2012 1:13 p.m.


    No, but I'm not playing college basektball or football. I never have once boasted of my own athletic abilities. I simply remind overexcited and out of touch with reality byu fans that you do not have the type of athletes needed to be among the best.

    Veritas, think about recent NCAA football and basketball winners. Does the makeup of the football/basketball teams at byu look similar to those champions?


    You will never go to a BCS game because you dont have BCS quality athletes because you can't recruit BCS quality athletes.

    As soon as byu fans stop pretending they are a major football/basketball program I can stop reminding you that you are not.

    P.S. I heart the BCS!

  • Pugman TREMONTON, UT
    April 27, 2012 12:02 p.m.

    The Ute trolls will have you believing they're in the running....after reading the part about a place that will build his chracter.......U are out. Just a guess!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    April 27, 2012 11:59 a.m.

    I try to be quick, but I can never beat Chris B to the first comment. She is such a loyal follower of BYU.

    Jabari's comments make me think that BYU could be a finalist. I'm realistic enough to know if Jabari only cared about basketball, places like Duke or Kansas may be a better fit. If he is looking for one year of college and then onto the NBA, Kentucky may be the place to go.

    But if he's looking for a great fit with the coach, somewhere that builds character, and a legit Top 25 basketball program that he can take to the next level - BYU is a great fit.

    Now onto football. I'm very happy to celebrate the end of the BCS. If the new playoff structure picks the Top 4 teams and BYU has access, they should stay indy. If the conference champ is picked from the SEC, ACC, Big10 and Big12 - look for each conference to build to 16 teams. BYU will likely get picked up by the Big12. The Big East will be on the outside looking in.

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    April 27, 2012 11:57 a.m.

    Spalding Sneakers?

    So he's sitting on the end of the bench in Sac Town in Spaldings? Unfortunate

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    April 27, 2012 11:42 a.m.

    Chris B.

    Are you that type of "athlete"?

    Are you even as athletic as the athletes at BYU?

    If not, where do you get off judging people who are something that you will never be?

    April 27, 2012 11:34 a.m.

    Probably Not...Just a guess

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    April 27, 2012 10:52 a.m.

    He probably wants to play with very athletic teammates, not kids who are balding and recovering from not having touched a basketball or lifted a weight in a couple years.

    Just a guess...