Jazz outlast Orlando in OT to set up play-in game vs. Phoenix

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  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    April 24, 2012 12:17 a.m.


    you cant expect everyone to produce on their rookie year...JJ Redick turned out to be a solid player...not a superstar...not an all-star but a solid player...tanking isnt the option...tanking is the option of the weak willed...Oklahoma City...was an exception...they got lucky...so did San Antonio...they got lucky with Tim Duncan...and also i think the mix of young and old is good...you can never count the veteran's off...unless its CJ Miles...look at San Antonio...bunch of Old Guys...with good solid young players...next year i think we would see where the team would be heading...and i sure hope that Corbin plays them right...and we keep our young core intact...

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    April 23, 2012 7:46 a.m.

    Shaybo, Corbin has been reluctant to play Milsap at the 3 thinking he can't defend smaller quicker threes. I agree with you though that he causes more matchup problems for them with his size and strengh than they ever cause for him. Good observation. We need to go with what works. That is the lineup of Jefferson, Favors, Milsap, Hayward and Harris. ( Tinsley works here but we need him to keep the second unit running smoothly.)Go Jazz!

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    April 22, 2012 11:57 p.m.

    When I talk about players that will make a difference on the Jazz roster, I am thinking of Perry Jones III or possibly Terrence Jones. Kendall Marshall or Damian Lilliard are not even remotely the level of athleticism that is necessary to make any difference on any pro team. Look at Jimmer and what a bust he became. We have good athletes on the Jazz roster but they are all young players. In the long term, we are better off getting young, athletic players that will learn to play together. The older players occupy space and time from these younger players and need to go so we can develop as a team that will eventually compete for a title, like Oklahoma City.

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    April 22, 2012 10:10 p.m.

    Good news though, in spite of Warriors making sure their top 3 players were either traded or on a bogus injury list, they actually won tonight. I'm sure owners are gnashing their teeth. Toronto and New Jersey play both have 1 less win than GS and they play each other so one of them will have that win. More than likely it will come down to a coin flip between the winner of that game and Golden State for the 7th and 8th spots.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    April 22, 2012 10:04 p.m.

    @ Coleman

    Wrong again. You can't just throw players on the court. That is what Charlotte is doing. They have lost 20 games in a row. They are the worst team in NBA history winning percentage wise. The fact that they are mixing vets with giving the young guys playing time will teach them more than just throwing them out there and letting the young guys play 35 mins per game. They are not getting handed playing time, they have to earn it. They also have the vets to help show them the way. I do agree that Favors needs more minutes. I think the way to do this unfortunately is to trade my favorite player on the team, Millsap. His value is up and they can get some value back for him. Either that, or he needs to embrace a 6th man role. Mixing young players and vets isn't applicable? How do you explain Chicago then? Derrick Rose is young, Noah is young, Taj Gibson is young, Jimmy Butler and Omar Asik. They are all a big part of the team. Then you have Hamilton, Boozer, Korver, Deng, and Brewer. That is a good mix right there.

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    April 22, 2012 10:04 p.m.

    @Coleman, playoff experience will make them winners? I don't see how the experience of being swept in 4 or 5 games is going to launch them to an NBA final and we will never get there as long as people are happy with barely making it to the playoff's every year, and yes this is a great draft year regardless of whether there is a Lebron or Koby in it, all but one or two of last year's top ten would have been picked in the 10-20 range this year so there will be a great player available when that last lottery pick rolls around. If it boils down to trading for a pick to get someone we want in the draft guess what, it's probably going to be Milsap because he is the only one on the Jazz roster with the value to bring in a lottery pick.

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    April 22, 2012 10:00 p.m.

    @ coleman51
    The Warriors won tonight. If they win at home Tuesday night against New Orleans, the Jazz have a good chance of getting their lottery pick. If not, KOC just said the other day there are other ways to get into the lottery. Also, like Jazzle Dazzle said, playoff experience for Hayward, Burks, Kanter and Favors is invaluable. I also think the kind of players you want on a future winner never play to lose.
    @ Kakashi
    I think Hayward had the flu or something...he did look extra tired. I agree with most of your comments and there are other PGs the Jazz might go for in the draft, Kendall Marshall or Damian Lillard to name two.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    April 22, 2012 7:29 p.m.

    my general opinion when i watched the game...Hayward looks tired defending...but he still gives his effort...Al Jefferson...is as usual a Liability on D...this is Why the lineup of Al Jefferson Derrick Favors Paul Millsap Gordon Hayward and Devin Harris works...its because Favors fills the defensive void that is Al Jefferson...and with the hustle of Paul Millsap...it just clicks...Enes Kanter...is developing well...i know he has range...and reliable also...the key...to Jazz's success...would be signing...the young guns into long term contracts...because they would be the backbone of our team in the future...maybe...we could swing for a trade for a future pick? and get our future PG in Myck Kabongo...

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    April 22, 2012 6:21 p.m.

    To Jazzledazzle: You can't develop young players unless you play them. The old Jazz starters are mediocre at best and cannot bring the team to a higher level. However, Corbin keeps playing them and give the younger players who really do have athleticism and potential little time on the court. And besides, getting swept in the playoffs is no step forward if we lose valuable lottery picks that along with the rest of the younger players could take us to a higher level. If you look at the draft overall, there is a higher number of players coming out that have a level of athleticism than other drafts did not. One supestar in a draft does not make it a deep draft. Look at Oklahoma City and see what drafting young players and playing them does to a team. The old paradigms about having a mix of experience and youth isn't applicable anymore. You need young athletic players that really do play to make a championship team. The old players have to be sacrificed to do this.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    April 22, 2012 5:58 p.m.

    @ Coleman 51

    Just ask Charlotte, Golden State, Washington how well tanking so that you can get a higher pick is working out for their franchise. We already have 4 lottery picks on this team from the last two years. I would rather develop them and turn them into winners. The Jazz cannot become a major contender until these guys taste the post season and learn to play in big games. Even if they get swept, it will be a big step forward. Also, this is not the deepest draft in 10 years. There is no LeBron, D Wade or Durant in this draft.

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    April 22, 2012 4:07 p.m.

    Fans may be cheering that the Jazz have positioned themselves for a playoff spot, but behind the scenes, this may turn out to be one of the most disastrous seasons in Utah Jazz history. By securing a playoff spot, the Jazz will have eliminated themselves from a first round pick in the upcoming draft, instead ceding it to Minnesota. You might wonder about Golden State's pick? If the Golden State Warriors have at least a tie for the seventh worst record, the Jazz will not get that pick either. That will mean that the Jazz will have no first round pick in the draft in what many are calling the deepest draft in a decade. As far as building for the future, that will come to a dead halt. If the Jazz want to make a play for a lottery pick, it will cost them considerably, meaning giving up a valuable asset. Some starting players would have to go where otherwise, we would have a much better option. Fans may cheer now, but they won't be cheering when draft day comes.

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    April 22, 2012 1:01 p.m.

    The lineup that finished should be the starting lineup from here on in. I keep hearing that the drawback to Milsap playing the #3 is that quick small forwards cause a problem for him defensively but I think his size and inside game are a much bigger problem for them.

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    April 22, 2012 10:32 a.m.

    @ B Russ
    I noticed Kanter too. I hadn't seen a Jazz game in a while, and he is definitely protecting the ball better as he goes up to the rim...and he hit that jumper, too. Go Enes!

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    April 22, 2012 10:13 a.m.

    Good observation Scalman. I noticed too that when Tinsley and Favors came into the game the slide stopped and we were able to get back in it. Kanter looked very good in his 13 minutes as well. I hated to see him come out of the game that quick when we were playing so well with him out there.
    The Pheonix came will be awsome I'm sure with everybody getting up for that one. Go Jazz!

  • Dustin Idaho Falls, ID
    April 22, 2012 9:52 a.m.

    Excellent win by the Jazz. We are seeing a lot of maturity coming from these players. They are showing more poise in overtime and when they need to make big shots. If Harris and Hayward are hitting the 3-ball in the playoffs, we will be a tough team to beat.

    Personally I would prefer to play OKC over San Antonio. I think we have a better shot at beating them.

  • LindonMan Lindon, UT
    April 22, 2012 9:07 a.m.

    Nice win Jazz! Let's take care of Phoenix and make some noise in the Playoffs!

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    April 22, 2012 6:08 a.m.

    The Jazz don't win this game without outatanding play by Tinsley and Favors. Everyone else was just O.K. Orlando's Anderson, Richardson & Nelsen were just too much for the Jazz to handle most of the night. One way or another, Favors must play most of the fourth quarters going forward.

  • Bigpics West Haven, UT
    April 22, 2012 2:38 a.m.


    1. I didn't see it discussed in the article (or on TV - but I could have missed it) that the Jazz ensured yet another over 500 season last night - which few predicted! I know it's not making the playoffs yet, but it's not "chopped liver" either: This is something the Jazz have done in all but four of the seasons since 1984 - and two of those four were .500 even. I don't know how many NBA teams can make this claim of consistency - whether small or large market.

    2. Also, whether the Jazz are in or not, they can claim another distinction: Most teams have played 66 games. But when you add in the 13 overtime periods the Jazz have played in their 7 OT games (65 minutes) the Jazz will have played (at least) a (very-likely) league-leading 67 and a third!

  • CocoNutzz Salt Lake City, UT
    April 22, 2012 1:18 a.m.

    Its been a fun season Jazz! Keep this level of play up, and you could be a big time contender as soon as next year. Lakers getying old, Spurs getting old, and the only real threats in the West are OKC, Clippers, and the Grizzlies.

    This has Been a year of Jazz basketball that I'll remember for a long, long time. Go Jazz Go!!!!