Red roundup: Is Pac-12, Big Ten football alliance in jeopardy

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  • fender Washington, UT
    April 26, 2012 2:52 p.m.

    Apparently the irony is lost on CordonBleu that BYU is ranked ahead of a team that beat BYU 54-10 on its home field.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 25, 2012 10:04 p.m.

    Snack PAC:

    "Utah's 'difficult' schedule is a myth..."

    Not so. Last year, Phil Steele ranked Utah's preseason SOS at #33, whereas the Y's was ranked #95. After all the games had been played, Sagarin ranked the Utes' schedule at #49, whereas the cougars were all the way down there at #90. So both the pre- and post- season SOS for the Utes and cougars were pretty consistent: Utah SOS > the cougs.

    Since the 2012 season's individual SOS hadn't been estimated yet, the REAL Myth is CordonBleu trying to make a case for a SOS to be reckoned with for the team down south. Boise St. may have finished ranked #9, but that was with a Senior-laden squad starring Kellen Moore. THIS year's Bronco team will be inexperienced, and very unlikely to crack the Top-15.

    Let's just wait until Phil Steele, Athlon, Lindy's, and the Sporting News publishes their preseason polls before we start bragging about the cougars '12 schedule. We won't have long to wait now. I believe they're due out next month.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    April 24, 2012 5:58 p.m.


    The obvious Washington State ranking "typo" doesn't change anything. Utah's "difficult" schedule is a myth, but the fact that the Utes are not only capable, but likely, to lose to ANYBODY, is a proven FACT!

    Utah schedules #209 Northern Colorado OOC, because the Utes don't want to take a chance on being thoroughly humiliated by a team like #106 Lehigh. At least with #107 Colorado, the Utes can claim it was a conference game where anything can happen, at least when it involves Utah.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    April 23, 2012 11:30 p.m.

    "The myth of Utah's "difficult" 2012 schedule (based on 2011 rankings)"

    Ok. I concede Boise State was #9 and USC was #12, in 2011. But that won't be the case in 2012, my friend.

    What's more, according to you, Washington State is ranked higher when they play BYU than when they play Utah.

    Nice. I can see how "myths" might spread.

    But I will agree that BYU plays three teams destined to be ranked 100+ this year, with SJSU knocking on the door (having zero competition in the WAC should help, though).

    Apparently Barry Alvarez is more hilarious than Jim Gaffigan. Don't worry, this should help BYU easily land home-and-home series with Penn State, Ohio State and Wisconsin, as so many many of thier faithful believe will be easy to do once they drop Utah from their schedule.
    "Don't worry Utes, Montana St. might still be available to lessen your really tough scheduling concerns."

    But infortunately, the Weber States and Idaho States of the world are already committed to making BYU's SOS a true wonder.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    April 21, 2012 5:08 p.m.


    "So it's NOT a done deal yet. Wonder who's complaining about the competition?"

    Not the Utes, who have been, and always will be, lapdogs to the PAC 12, will to do whatever the conference tells them to do.

    **Play for NOTHING your first year - thank you sir
    **Wait for FOUR years to become full members - thank you sir
    **Play as many conference games as you tell us to play - thank you sir
    **Allow the conference to dictate even our non-conference schedule - thank you sir

  • CordonBleu Park City, UT
    April 20, 2012 10:07 p.m.

    The myth of Utah's "difficult" 2012 schedule (based on 2011 rankings)

    Utah plays ONE team that was ranked higher than BYU last season,
    three teams ranked in the Top 40, and
    two teams ranked below 100.

    Utah 2012
    #209 Northern Colorado
    #80 @Utah State
    #34 Brigham Young
    #41 @Arizona State
    #12 Southern Cal
    #66 @UCLA
    #87 @Oregon State
    #38 California
    #87 @Washington State
    #44 @Washington
    #64 Arizona
    #107 @Colorado

    BYU plays TWO teams that were ranked higher than BYU last season,
    three teams ranked in the Top 40, and
    three teams ranked below 100.

    BYU 2012
    #83 Washington State
    #136 Weber State
    #39 @Utah
    #9 @Boise State
    #97 Hawaii
    #80 Utah State
    #87 Oregon State
    #26 @Notre Dame
    #56 @Georgia Tech
    #141 Idaho
    #96 @San Jose State
    #133 @New Mexico State

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    April 20, 2012 4:58 p.m.

    sammyg wondered "who's complaining?"

    If he'd read the article that was linked, he would have found "The sticking point, Alvarez said, is how difficult the schedule could become for some Pac-12 teams. That league is committed to playing a full nine-game conference schedule. A Big Ten opponent would mean 10 tough games, and schools like USC and Stanford have an annual series with Notre Dame.

    "Difficult schedule" - That is one thing the Cougars won't have to worry about with independence.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 20, 2012 4:55 p.m.


  • sammyg Springville, UT
    April 20, 2012 4:40 p.m.

    So it's NOT a done deal yet. Wonder who's complaining about the competition?

    Why would any team in the mighty Pac 10.2 complain about a heavy schedule with more BCS teams? I thought this was 'big boy' conference stuff?

    Don't worry Utes, Montana St. might still be available to lessen your really tough scheduling concerns.

    You got one more year of a greased schedule before more of the big boys in the north division get in on the rotation and... uh oh, here comes a real USC team on the horizon.